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Alabama vs Notre Dame: BCS Championship

Originally posted by DaManRathman:
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by DaManRathman:
Wait, are you trying to say all those Hurricane players you listed were on their 1997 roster?



no screwed that up

they where on the 2001 roster

Ahh OK, yes.

I knew Gore wasn't there in 1997, he would have only been about 14 years old in 1997 lol.

That 2001 team was insane.

Yep. Now the 2001 team was probably the greatest collection of college football players ever on 1 team. At least 20 were NFL players and many were stars. That team would have smoked this Bama team in my opinion.
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Valdosta St could indeed beat Bama, because Billy Jean King beat Riggs in a tennis match. Therefore anything in this world is possible.

Speaking of Billie Jean... for record, she was NOT my lover. She's just a girl who said I was the one.



53-man NFL roster vs. 10 "draftable" college players = no contest. This conversation is pure verbal diarrhea.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Yep. Now the 2001 team was probably the greatest collection of college football players ever on 1 team. At least 20 were NFL players and many were stars. That team would have smoked this Bama team in my opinion.

yea they could beat anyone

they got unlucky
Still think Bama could compete, if not beat, a few NFL teams. There's enough pro talent on the roster, I don't think there too much of a gap there. I don't believe the gap between college and the pros is that significant. Plenty of rookies come in and have immediate success in te NFL. Generally, the only thing that holds players back is the mental side of the game. Bama is always prepared and they have excellent coaching. Count the the future 1st round picks on Bama's Oline, RB corps, and defensive front 7. It's impressive.

The Jags, Raiders, and Chiefs are a mess. Bama would definitely give them all they could handle.

The SF Giants use to travel and play their farms teams. They come to town cocky and get beat by our AA team. The pros aren't Gods.
This Bama vs a pro team is silly. Bama is good but any NFL team would destroy them. Just because Bama beat up on ND doesn't mean they are that much better than everyone else. The long layoff really helps good coach's in college football. Every BCS bowl game was a blow out. Is Louisville that much better than Florida? Is Bama that much better than LSU? Can Texas A & M hang with an NFL team as well since they beat Bama? NO. It's not impossible for an NFL team to lose but 99 times out of 100, I would think that the NFL team would win. Carson Palmer might suck but "supposedly" he is one of the 32 best QBs. Bama's QB looks promising but he won't be a starting QB in the NFL next year. Bama has plenty of NFL caliber players on their team but how many will start on an NFL team next year??? And how many will start because they are that good compared to them starting because they were the best lineman available?
Originally posted by IWASATTHECATCH:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Valdosta St could indeed beat Bama, because Billy Jean King beat Riggs in a tennis match. Therefore anything in this world is possible.

Speaking of Billie Jean... for record, she was NOT my lover. She's just a girl who said I was the one.



53-man NFL roster vs. 10 "draftable" college players = no contest. This conversation is pure verbal diarrhea.

Bama has at least 10 draftable players (half being 1st or 2nd rounders) on their starting offense alone (McCarron, Lacy, Yeldon, B. Jones, Warmack, Fluker, Kouandjio, Steen, Cooper and Norwood.....possibly Bell too). And on defense, there's another 12 or so just among their current rotational players (J Williams, Square, Stinson, Dial, Hubbard, Mosley, Nico Johnson, Xzavier Dickson, Milliner, Clinton-Dix, Lester and Belue).

So that's nearly every starter on Bama's team that unless something crazy happens, are easily draftable. And that's not counting any future stars or even just draftable players they may have stuck behind some of the all-americans and future high picks they have.

But thanks for the insightful comment anyway. You're probably right about your overall premise, but way off-target in terms of Bama's talent. I mean, it's cool to poke fun of people that have a different opinion than you, but at least get your basic facts/assessments straight.
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Jan 8, 2013 at 1:50 PM ]
Mike Rumph was on that 2001 team
There are over 2000 colleges across the U.S. (not even counting the Junior Colleges) and of those, approximately 250 players apply for the NFL draft per year. Keep in mind that these are the COLLEGE best players out of the 2000 colleges. Then approximately 50% of those don't make the cut, so what you're left with is the cream of the crop. Bottom line is that you have to be one hell of a player to even make it past the draft.

Consider that even the worst of the NFL have a few of those drafted in the top 20% and people here are saying that Alabama can beat those teams?
Get serious.

The person that quoted the Giants playing in the minor league? Keep in mind that the minor league is NOT a college Baseball team. They are a select group of people selected by the Professional teams. BIG DIFFERENCE! So we're back to some top notch COLLEGE baseball team beating a pro team? Not gonna happen.
[ Edited by Kauaiguy on Jan 8, 2013 at 2:26 PM ]
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by IWASATTHECATCH:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Valdosta St could indeed beat Bama, because Billy Jean King beat Riggs in a tennis match. Therefore anything in this world is possible.

Speaking of Billie Jean... for record, she was NOT my lover. She's just a girl who said I was the one.



53-man NFL roster vs. 10 "draftable" college players = no contest. This conversation is pure verbal diarrhea.

Bama has at least 10 draftable players (half being 1st or 2nd rounders) on their starting offense alone (McCarron, Lacy, Yeldon, B. Jones, Warmack, Fluker, Kouandjio, Steen, Cooper and Norwood.....possibly Bell too). And on defense, there's another 12 or so just among their current rotational players (J Williams, Square, Stinson, Dial, Hubbard, Mosley, Nico Johnson, Xzavier Dickson, Milliner, Clinton-Dix, Lester and Belue).

So that's nearly every starter on Bama's team that unless something crazy happens, are easily draftable. And that's not counting any future stars or even just draftable players they may have stuck behind some of the all-americans and future high picks they have.

But thanks for the insightful comment anyway. You're probably right about your overall premise, but way off-target in terms of Bama's talent. I mean, it's cool to poke fun of people that have a different opinion than you, but at least get your basic facts/assessments straight.

yes there's a lot of talent on their roster, but of those 22 starters how many of them would make the 53-man roster? and how many of them would get into the starting lineup? maybe eventually they all could, but right now most of them aren't NFL ready.

bama vs KC, i give Bama the "any given sunday" chance
Originally posted by Kauaiguy:
There are over 2000 colleges across the U.S. and of those, approximately 250 players apply for the NFL draft per year. Keep in mind that these are the COLLEGE best players out of the 2000 colleges. Then approximately 50% of those don't make the cut, so what you're left with is the cream of the crop.

Consider that even the worst of the NFL have a few of those in the top 20% and people here are saying that Alabama can beat those teams?
Get serious.

The person that quoted the Giants playing in the minor league? Keep in mind that the minor league is NOT a college Baseball team. They are a select group of people selected by the Professional teams. BIG DIFFERENCE! So we're back to some top notch COLLEGE baseball team beating a pro team? Not gonna happen.


your missing one key point.


one NFL elite player can beat a very good NFL team.

one horriffic bad player can loose an NFL game.

forget the talent around them

AP can neutralize a historically bad NFL defense damn near by himself.

A rookie Andrew luck throwing to a rookie randy moss will score points on a historically bad defense.

you Pick a historically great college teams with superior talent then a historically bad NFL team....and you will have a ball game.
[ Edited by Dshearn on Jan 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM ]
Originally posted by Dshearn:
Originally posted by Kauaiguy:
There are over 2000 colleges across the U.S. and of those, approximately 250 players apply for the NFL draft per year. Keep in mind that these are the COLLEGE best players out of the 2000 colleges. Then approximately 50% of those don't make the cut, so what you're left with is the cream of the crop.

Consider that even the worst of the NFL have a few of those in the top 20% and people here are saying that Alabama can beat those teams?
Get serious.

The person that quoted the Giants playing in the minor league? Keep in mind that the minor league is NOT a college Baseball team. They are a select group of people selected by the Professional teams. BIG DIFFERENCE! So we're back to some top notch COLLEGE baseball team beating a pro team? Not gonna happen.


your missing one key point.


one NFL elite player can beat a very good NFL team.

one horriffic bad player can loose an NFL game.

forget the talent around them

AP can neutralize a historically bad NFL defense damn near by himself.

A rookie Andrew luck throwing to a rookie randy moss will score points on a historically bad defense.

you Pick a historically great college teams with superior talent then a historically bad NFL team....and you will have a ball game.

I want to smoke what you guys are smoking
Maybe this lopsided ass-kicking of a game will help expedite the playoff system. College football needs a playoff ASAP!

Edit: No college team is going to beat an NFL team. That's just crazy talk.
[ Edited by KegBert on Jan 8, 2013 at 3:14 PM ]
Originally posted by KegBert:
Maybe this lopsided ass-kicking of a game will help expedite the playoff system. College football needs a playoff ASAP!

Edit: No college team is going to beat an NFL team. That's just crazy talk.
A lot of people just don't care but I lose interest in college football every year because their Championship series in a joke. Bama is a great team but they aren't as dominate as the bowl games make them look. Every BCS bowl game was lop-sided this year and that happens every year as well. It's not even competitive. When Bama plays during the regular season they play good teams a lot closer (Georgia, LSU, Texas A & M), etc... Bama or LSU, etc... are definately good enough to win a NC in a playoff format but the games would all be closer. An 8 team playoff this year would have been (ND, Bama, Florida, Oregon, K State, Stanford, Georgia and LSU). A Bama team would draw Georgia in the 1st round round. If they escaped Georgia they would move on to maybe LSU and then a championship game with Oregon?
That's a lot harder to do year in and year out...
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by IWASATTHECATCH:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Valdosta St could indeed beat Bama, because Billy Jean King beat Riggs in a tennis match. Therefore anything in this world is possible.

Speaking of Billie Jean... for record, she was NOT my lover. She's just a girl who said I was the one.



53-man NFL roster vs. 10 "draftable" college players = no contest. This conversation is pure verbal diarrhea.

Bama has at least 10 draftable players (half being 1st or 2nd rounders) on their starting offense alone (McCarron, Lacy, Yeldon, B. Jones, Warmack, Fluker, Kouandjio, Steen, Cooper and Norwood.....possibly Bell too). And on defense, there's another 12 or so just among their current rotational players (J Williams, Square, Stinson, Dial, Hubbard, Mosley, Nico Johnson, Xzavier Dickson, Milliner, Clinton-Dix, Lester and Belue).

So that's nearly every starter on Bama's team that unless something crazy happens, are easily draftable. And that's not counting any future stars or even just draftable players they may have stuck behind some of the all-americans and future high picks they have.

But thanks for the insightful comment anyway. You're probably right about your overall premise, but way off-target in terms of Bama's talent. I mean, it's cool to poke fun of people that have a different opinion than you, but at least get your basic facts/assessments straight.

You're welcome- for allowing me the privilege of attempting to inject logic into a comical scenario.

Just curious, are you an aspiring agent trying to get top NFL-dollars for "fringe" college players, and view this thread as your golden goose? Outside of that, I can see no other reason for your heels-dug-in-yet-laughable-stance.

Again... you're welcome.