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Wainwright better watch out, Jason Marquis is only 1 win behind him...If he gets to 10 wins there might be a debate over who is the best pitcher in baseball...

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Originally posted by Niners99:
Wainwright better watch out, Jason Marquis is only 1 win behind him...If he gets to 10 wins there might be a debate over who is the best pitcher in baseball...


Does he have all the CGs, Ks, ERA, WHIP, CGSHO, and many of the other stats Wainwright has?
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first round pick Marco Gonzales..BP session today

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W 46-26

Back up 20. Westbrook looked more like himself tonight. Yadi "MVP" Molina hit a bomb and threw out a few more people. Although, he did drop his AVG to .365 now

Tomorrow should be interesting. Feldman (6-5) @ Lynn (9-1)

Lynn has struggled recently and Feldman has been DECENT (for a Cubs pitcher at least) all season








[ Edited by jrg on Jun 19, 2013 at 9:39 PM ]
I can't see this team losing back to back series, especially against lousy teams
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Originally posted by LarryT1974:
I can't see this team losing back to back series, especially against lousy teams

Well..worst we can do now is tie w/ the Cubs..but we need to be sweeping these teams. Coming up we have:

vs. Texas (3)
@ Houston (2)
@ Oakland (3)
@ LA Angels (3)
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Wainwright better watch out, Jason Marquis is only 1 win behind him...If he gets to 10 wins there might be a debate over who is the best pitcher in baseball...


Does he have all the CGs, Ks, ERA, WHIP, CGSHO, and many of the other stats Wainwright has?

Thats my point. Pitcher Wins are useless. I haven't looked at pitcher win/loss record in almost 10 years now. If Wainwright had 2 wins right now, he'd be considered just as good as he is with 10 wins. If he played for the Marlins, he'd have been just as dominant, just without the run support.

Just the very fact that a SP can pitch 7+ innings of shutout ball, leave with the game tied at 0, and then a RP can record the win for getting 1 out should have made that stat obsolete a long time ago. Lance Lynn gives up 7 er in 5 innings? Gets a win. A RP blows a 3 run lead in the 9th, game tied, walkoff HR the next inning? He earns the win. Its the most flawed stat in baseball.

They used to pick the CY winners based on it too, which is scary. Its the reason why Bartolo Colon and Barry Zito have their awards instead of Johan Santana and Pedro Martinez.

Barry Zito in 2002: 2.75 era, 1.13 whip, 182 K's in 229.1 ip.

Pedro Martinez in 2002: 2.26 era, 0.92 whip, 239 K's in 199.1 ip

Bartolo Colon in 2005: 3.48 era, 1.16 whip, 157 K's in 222.2 ip

Johan Santana in 2005: 2.87 era, 0.97 whip, 238 K's in 231.2 ip
[ Edited by Niners99 on Jun 20, 2013 at 1:20 AM ]
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Lynn now 10-1

Bring on the Rangers...i enjoyed the last time they were at busch ;)
Originally posted by jrg:
Lynn now 10-1

Bring on the Rangers...i enjoyed the last time they were at busch ;)

Is Justin Smith your favorite 49er? He has to be right?
Originally posted by jrg:
Lynn now 10-1

Bring on the Rangers...i enjoyed the last time they were at busch ;)

I don't think the Rangers enjoyed their last visit to Busch. Living here in Texas, people were absolutely devastated. A true thing of beauty...especially considering that no one gave the Cards a chance of winning that series. Let's hope for #12 this year.
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Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by jrg:
Lynn now 10-1

Bring on the Rangers...i enjoyed the last time they were at busch ;)

Is Justin Smith your favorite 49er? He has to be right?

lol why? because he's a mizzou alumni and loved anheuser busch products?
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looks like darvish isn't pitching Sunday anymore

good news for us, but i wanted darvish /Wainwright
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by jrg:
Lynn now 10-1

Bring on the Rangers...i enjoyed the last time they were at busch ;)

Is Justin Smith your favorite 49er? He has to be right?

lol why? because he's a mizzou alumni and loved anheuser busch products?

Yes. I figured any all-pro 49er with the Anheuser Busch logo tattoed on his arm would be jrg approved.
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Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by jrg:
Lynn now 10-1

Bring on the Rangers...i enjoyed the last time they were at busch ;)

Is Justin Smith your favorite 49er? He has to be right?

lol why? because he's a mizzou alumni and loved anheuser busch products?

Yes. I figured any all-pro 49er with the Anheuser Busch logo tattoed on his arm would be jrg approved.

definitely approved
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Ugh Lyons.

Back to Memphis you go..I'd say Carlos Martinez or Joe Kelly replaces him in the rotation

Preferably Martinez