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2012-13 General NBA Discussion Thread

  • crzy
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Watch this entire thing. Especially you, 4ML.

http://www.theonion.com/video/the-onion-voters-guide-to-mitt-romney,29764/

lol That's basically my exact reaction to the Dwight Howard trade

Oh well.
  • crzy
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by WookieOftheYear:
Rachel Nichols ‏@Rachel__Nichols
What do you guys think of the new NBA flopping policy? (1st offense: warning, 2nd: $5K, 3rd: $10K, 4th: $15K, 5th: $30K)

Not harsh enough

You're unrealistic expectations are ludicrous. Especially for someone that doesn't even like watching this league anymore.


Seriously you'd have a s**t ton of controversy if you were to fine these players more than $30K

crzy won't be happy unless the first offense is lifetime ban from all athletic competition, $62 billion fine, and instant castration at center court.


lol, forgive me if I don't like b******t acting deciding close ball games.


Jeff Van Gundy for commisioner.


The easiest solution is just to make flops into technical fouls. VERY easy to stop flopping for good.

  • jrg
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f**k JVG
Seeing flopping live as an official is probably difficult and hard to judge exactly what is and what isn't. Unless they did a replay on the sides to call the technical I don't think that'd work. And it would slow the game down.
Originally posted by crzy:
The easiest solution is just to make flops into technical fouls. VERY easy to stop flopping for good.


Ok, here's the flaw in this logic. It's impossible to penalize flopping during the game because the refs think they are actually getting fouled. It's only after the replay is shown do we realize it's a flop. So are they going to replay every single foul to determine if it was legit or a flop? Are they gonna give each team 3 flop challenges? I agree that flopping needs to go away. I just don't see how it can actually be officiated during the game.



^^^ and what marsh said, which I obviously didn't see.
[ Edited by StOnEy333 on Oct 3, 2012 at 10:10 PM ]
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by crzy:
The easiest solution is just to make flops into technical fouls. VERY easy to stop flopping for good.


Ok, here's the flaw in this logic. It's impossible to penalize flopping during the game because the refs think they are actually getting fouled. It's only after the replay is shown do we realize it's a flop. So are they going to replay every single foul to determine if it was legit or a flop? Are they gonna give each team 3 flop challenges? I agree that flopping needs to go away. I just don't see how it can actually be officiated during the game.

Beat you to it joto
Originally posted by marshniners24:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by crzy:
The easiest solution is just to make flops into technical fouls. VERY easy to stop flopping for good.


Ok, here's the flaw in this logic. It's impossible to penalize flopping during the game because the refs think they are actually getting fouled. It's only after the replay is shown do we realize it's a flop. So are they going to replay every single foul to determine if it was legit or a flop? Are they gonna give each team 3 flop challenges? I agree that flopping needs to go away. I just don't see how it can actually be officiated during the game.

Beat you to it joto

And then I went to add the edit and you posted this in that time. ShYte!!
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
And then I went to add the edit and you posted this in that time. ShYte!!

bros
  • crzy
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by crzy:
The easiest solution is just to make flops into technical fouls. VERY easy to stop flopping for good.


Ok, here's the flaw in this logic. It's impossible to penalize flopping during the game because the refs think they are actually getting fouled. It's only after the replay is shown do we realize it's a flop. So are they going to replay every single foul to determine if it was legit or a flop? Are they gonna give each team 3 flop challenges? I agree that flopping needs to go away. I just don't see how it can actually be officiated during the game.



^^^ and what marsh said, which I obviously didn't see.

It's not easy, I agree.But it's not impossible either.

There are plenty of times the ref see obvious flops, where they simply let the play go on without blowing their whistle.

I'm just saying that in those instances, the ref can stop play and call a technical foul. The refs don't need to catch every single flop. NFL refs don't catch every single holding call.

However, the threat of a technical foul will be a much greater deterrence against flopping than any post-game fines will ever be.



Plus the NBA needs to add an extra ref
  • AmpLee
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Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by crzy:
The easiest solution is just to make flops into technical fouls. VERY easy to stop flopping for good.


Ok, here's the flaw in this logic. It's impossible to penalize flopping during the game because the refs think they are actually getting fouled. It's only after the replay is shown do we realize it's a flop. So are they going to replay every single foul to determine if it was legit or a flop? Are they gonna give each team 3 flop challenges? I agree that flopping needs to go away. I just don't see how it can actually be officiated during the game.



^^^ and what marsh said, which I obviously didn't see.

It's not easy, I agree.But it's not impossible either.

There are plenty of times the ref see obvious flops, where they simply let the play go on without blowing their whistle.

I'm just saying that in those instances, the ref can stop play and call a technical foul. The refs don't need to catch every single flop. NFL refs don't catch every single holding call.

However, the threat of a technical foul will be a much greater deterrence against flopping than any post-game fines will ever be.



Plus the NBA needs to add an extra ref

crzy, I'm totally with you on the flopping thing. I think it ruins the game and should have been fixed years ago. I've thought about if they instituted a rule that flop technicals are given to the teams at the end of each half. You can have a separate ref that watches replay of every questionable flop and by the end of the half, has tallied the flops and awarded fts. Sure this could make the end of the games anti-climactic, but I'm guessing it would stop the problem.
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by crzy:
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by crzy:
The easiest solution is just to make flops into technical fouls. VERY easy to stop flopping for good.


Ok, here's the flaw in this logic. It's impossible to penalize flopping during the game because the refs think they are actually getting fouled. It's only after the replay is shown do we realize it's a flop. So are they going to replay every single foul to determine if it was legit or a flop? Are they gonna give each team 3 flop challenges? I agree that flopping needs to go away. I just don't see how it can actually be officiated during the game.



^^^ and what marsh said, which I obviously didn't see.

It's not easy, I agree.But it's not impossible either.

There are plenty of times the ref see obvious flops, where they simply let the play go on without blowing their whistle.

I'm just saying that in those instances, the ref can stop play and call a technical foul. The refs don't need to catch every single flop. NFL refs don't catch every single holding call.

However, the threat of a technical foul will be a much greater deterrence against flopping than any post-game fines will ever be.



Plus the NBA needs to add an extra ref

crzy, I'm totally with you on the flopping thing. I think it ruins the game and should have been fixed years ago. I've thought about if they instituted a rule that flop technicals are given to the teams at the end of each half. You can have a separate ref that watches replay of every questionable flop and by the end of the half, has tallied the flops and awarded fts. Sure this could make the end of the games anti-climactic, but I'm guessing it would stop the problem.

Sorry Amp. That's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.
  • jrg
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FTs at the end of halfs? Bye bye buzzer beaters
  • FL9er
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I'm probably in the minority, but I see the Nets being a massive failure.
Originally posted by FL9er:
I'm probably in the minority, but I see the Nets being a massive failure.

I dont think they will compete for a title but they will be better than the last few years
Originally posted by WookieOftheYear:
Originally posted by FL9er:
I'm probably in the minority, but I see the Nets being a massive failure.

I dont think they will compete for a title but they will be better than the last few years

Ya, they'll be decent. That's a pretty good offensive squad.