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2012-13 Los Angeles Lakers Thread

Actually, lol at the current state of the Lakers franchise
Originally posted by HudsonValley:
Actually, lol at the current state of the Lakers franchise

No, you're right. If the winningest player of his generation was more of a team player, the Lakers wouldn't have had to go through transitions over these last 17 years and he'd still be winning titles with Shaq, Robert Horry, Rick Fox, & Derek Fisher.
Originally posted by HudsonValley:
Actually, lol at the current state of the Lakers franchise

Relax homes. You guys will get a couple of sick free agents within the next two to four years and everything will be okay. Dwight Howard is a piece of s**t
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by HudsonValley:
Actually, lol at the current state of the Lakers franchise

Relax homes. You guys will get a couple of sick free agents within the next two to four years and everything will be okay. Dwight Howard is a piece of s**t

He's not a Laker fan. I think you missed the "special" missive he wrote on the last page.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
He's not a Laker fan. I think you missed the "special" missive he wrote on the last page.

Lol. I did miss it. It was too hard to read thru that entire post
Originally posted by sacniner:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
He's not a Laker fan. I think you missed the "special" missive he wrote on the last page.

Lol. I did miss it. It was too hard to read thru that entire post


this

I stopped after reading after he said Kobe was the main problem in the organization.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
F**kin Dwight Howard you scrub!!!!

Ok just wanted to vent see you all later.

This
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by HudsonValley:
Actually, lol at the current state of the Lakers franchise

No, you're right. If the winningest player of his generation was more of a team player, the Lakers wouldn't have had to go through transitions over these last 17 years and he'd still be winning titles with Shaq, Robert Horry, Rick Fox, & Derek Fisher.


don't forget the "greatness" of Lamar Odom
Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by HudsonValley:
Actually, lol at the current state of the Lakers franchise

No, you're right. If the winningest player of his generation was more of a team player, the Lakers wouldn't have had to go through transitions over these last 17 years and he'd still be winning titles with Shaq, Robert Horry, Rick Fox, & Derek Fisher.


don't forget the "greatness" of Lamar Odom

Are they just playing for 2014 now and the big cap room? Starting over with some younger guys would be a good idea for the Lakers.
Lakers dodged a bullet. LOL at Kobe being petty on twitter. That s**t made me smile.
Originally posted by HudsonValley:
Laker fans might cry foul, but I think the entire problem behind the Lakers franchise can be summed up into two words: Kobe Bryant. Unlike guys like Michael Jordan, who pretty much played on a dominant team that only required replacements for role players, the Lakers have had to go through several transitions through the Kobe era. And not just minor changes. We're talking losing star power like Shaq, Odom (to some extent), Fisher (to some extent), with the Lakers trying to replace that kind of play by acquiring big name players. The problem here is Kobe's willingness (or lack thereof) to budge and be a team player. Everyone and their mother knows this is Kobe's team, but it's his constant harpering and gesturing in public/media outlets that this is HIS team that irks players in my opinion. I dont know exactly what was said to Howard when he met up with the Lakers, but reports stating that Kobe was using statements like "I can teach you to be a champion" are unnecessary. We get it Kobe. You're a 5 time champion and the best thing thats happened to the NBA since Jordan. But do we constantly need to hear that from your mouth ? It might work with guys like Odom or Horry, but it can demoralize and discourage star players like Howard and Gasol, who then feel as if they have to adapt their games to your liking.

I think if Kobe (this late in his career) took a more nonchalante approach, maybe like Pierce or Wade, where the focus is about team success through individual sacrifices rather than "my team, my way" the Lakers would have a better chance at landing guys like Howard.

I HIGHLY doubt Melo or James would be willing to come to LA in 2 seasons if Kobe keeps up this antic. It's a different league where success is handled by committee. One great player does not equate to championships. Teams like the Spurs, Heat, Thunder are winning bc multiple players are allowed to play their game as long as each is willing to sacrifice a bit for the other. Kobe's attitude wont help recruit anyone and he's going to end up leaving this league with only 5 rings.

LOL This has to be one of the most ridiculous posts ever.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by HudsonValley:
Laker fans might cry foul, but I think the entire problem behind the Lakers franchise can be summed up into two words: Kobe Bryant. Unlike guys like Michael Jordan, who pretty much played on a dominant team that only required replacements for role players, the Lakers have had to go through several transitions through the Kobe era. And not just minor changes. We're talking losing star power like Shaq, Odom (to some extent), Fisher (to some extent), with the Lakers trying to replace that kind of play by acquiring big name players. The problem here is Kobe's willingness (or lack thereof) to budge and be a team player. Everyone and their mother knows this is Kobe's team, but it's his constant harpering and gesturing in public/media outlets that this is HIS team that irks players in my opinion. I dont know exactly what was said to Howard when he met up with the Lakers, but reports stating that Kobe was using statements like "I can teach you to be a champion" are unnecessary. We get it Kobe. You're a 5 time champion and the best thing thats happened to the NBA since Jordan. But do we constantly need to hear that from your mouth ? It might work with guys like Odom or Horry, but it can demoralize and discourage star players like Howard and Gasol, who then feel as if they have to adapt their games to your liking.

I think if Kobe (this late in his career) took a more nonchalante approach, maybe like Pierce or Wade, where the focus is about team success through individual sacrifices rather than "my team, my way" the Lakers would have a better chance at landing guys like Howard.

I HIGHLY doubt Melo or James would be willing to come to LA in 2 seasons if Kobe keeps up this antic. It's a different league where success is handled by committee. One great player does not equate to championships. Teams like the Spurs, Heat, Thunder are winning bc multiple players are allowed to play their game as long as each is willing to sacrifice a bit for the other. Kobe's attitude wont help recruit anyone and he's going to end up leaving this league with only 5 rings.

LOL This has to be one of the most ridiculous posts ever.

To the original poster. Nah.

Howard is just going to a younger team with better young superstars. He sees the writing on the wall. Kobe is older, coming off a real bad injury, Nash is older and often injured, Gasol is a bit soft and getting older. The Lakers in 2013 are just not going anywhere. They are clearing cap room for 2014. Now 2014, 2015 and beyond that's a different story. But there is nothing in 2013 for the Lakers. And Howard could see that.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
To the original poster. Nah.

Howard is just going to a younger team with better young superstars. He sees the writing on the wall. Kobe is older, coming off a real bad injury, Nash is older and often injured, Gasol is a bit soft and getting older. The Lakers in 2013 are just not going anywhere. They are clearing cap room for 2014. Now 2014, 2015 and beyond that's a different story. But there is nothing in 2013 for the Lakers. And Howard could see that.

It's the right move. Kobe, Gasol, Nash, and now bring on Odom again, this is the NBA version of retirement city. Shaq makes noise about Dwight not being able to handle the bright lights. Who cares! Howard made the right move, McHale has the big man mentality and will position Howard offensively and defensively. Jerry Buss would've signed him.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
To the original poster. Nah.

Howard is just going to a younger team with better young superstars. He sees the writing on the wall. Kobe is older, coming off a real bad injury, Nash is older and often injured, Gasol is a bit soft and getting older. The Lakers in 2013 are just not going anywhere. They are clearing cap room for 2014. Now 2014, 2015 and beyond that's a different story. But there is nothing in 2013 for the Lakers. And Howard could see that.

You know in 2008-2009 I didn't think there was anything for the Lakers also... They went to the NBA finals and almost won a title. I still have faith. A new season is a clean slate for the Lakers, especially with the kind of talent they still have with Kobe, Gasol and Nash. I don't care about ages. Obviously the Spurs debunked that myth this past season.
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