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2012-13 Los Angeles Lakers Thread

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by InconvenienTTruth21:
I agree with stoney. He's the best center in the league, but he has so much holes in his game that it's kinda sad that he's the best center in the league.

Honestly if DMC wasn't a dumb ass or if Bynum wasn't injury prone I dont think hed be the best in the league. His game relies so much/too much on his athleticism, he honestly isn't that talented lol

Yep. Howard has all the talent in the world, but has a lot of holes. Mainly his FTs and post moves. He has his hook shot and that is about it.

All players have holes in their games and Centers can often take longer to develop their offensive game. If Dwight works hard, there is no question he can improve his offensive skills.

On defense...it's not even close. Howard is too far ahead of Bynum and DMC.

Well of course. He hasn't reached his ceiling by any means. Even at this point, he is commanding double teams down low. That is why I think he was great in Orlando. Go ahead and double team him...he'll kick it out to Rashard/Hedo/etc...that is why I thought Golden State was his best option. He CAN improve...but he is approaching 30 now. He isn't 24 anymore.

On the defensive end, he is dominant. He controls the paint.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by InconvenienTTruth21:
I agree with stoney. He's the best center in the league, but he has so much holes in his game that it's kinda sad that he's the best center in the league.

Honestly if DMC wasn't a dumb ass or if Bynum wasn't injury prone I dont think hed be the best in the league. His game relies so much/too much on his athleticism, he honestly isn't that talented lol

Yep. Howard has all the talent in the world, but has a lot of holes. Mainly his FTs and post moves. He has his hook shot and that is about it.

All players have holes in their games and Centers can often take longer to develop their offensive game. If Dwight works hard, there is no question he can improve his offensive skills.

On defense...it's not even close. Howard is too far ahead of Bynum and DMC.

Howard has been in the league for 10 years. You would think he would have made some improvements in his offensive skills by now. I doubt he will ever put the time in to do it now.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by InconvenienTTruth21:
I agree with stoney. He's the best center in the league, but he has so much holes in his game that it's kinda sad that he's the best center in the league.

Honestly if DMC wasn't a dumb ass or if Bynum wasn't injury prone I dont think hed be the best in the league. His game relies so much/too much on his athleticism, he honestly isn't that talented lol

Yep. Howard has all the talent in the world, but has a lot of holes. Mainly his FTs and post moves. He has his hook shot and that is about it.

All players have holes in their games and Centers can often take longer to develop their offensive game. If Dwight works hard, there is no question he can improve his offensive skills.

On defense...it's not even close. Howard is too far ahead of Bynum and DMC.

Of course he can improve, but he's been trying to improve his offensive game for years with absolutely nothing to show for it. He may be ahead of the others defensively, but overall he's not that far ahead. If Bynum could actually stay on the court for a season or two, I think he'd easily be the best overall Center. Sucks for him that he can't. lol
[ Edited by StOnEy333 on Jul 5, 2013 at 10:33 PM ]
Haha, I remember this...


Top comment on the video is the best....and true...HAHA

I've never seen Dwight do any of this s**t.

[ Edited by jrg on Jul 5, 2013 at 10:33 PM ]
Originally posted by jrg:
Haha, I remember this...


Top comment on the video is the best....and true...HAHA

I've never seen Dwight do any of this s**t.


Worked with Ewing with Orlando, worked with Hakeem with Orlando, worked with Kareem with the Lakers. Now back to Hakeem. lol
The ONLY move Dwight does is back down to the right...come to his left and throw up a right handed hook.
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by jrg:
Haha, I remember this...


Top comment on the video is the best....and true...HAHA

I've never seen Dwight do any of this s**t.


Worked with Ewing with Orlando, worked with Hakeem with Orlando, worked with Kareem with the Lakers. Now back to Hakeem. lol

Dunno who else he wants to learn from
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Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Worked with Ewing with Orlando, worked with Hakeem with Orlando, worked with Kareem with the Lakers. Now back to Hakeem. lol
Hakeem was different physically than Dwight. He was athletic but he was so nimble on his feet. Dwight is just a big athletic dinosaur lol, he's offensively retarded

I dont think Hakeem can teach Howard his own moves
[ Edited by InconvenienTTruth21 on Jul 5, 2013 at 10:38 PM ]
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Howard has been in the league for 10 years. You would think he would have made some improvements in his offensive skills by now. I doubt he will ever put the time in to do it now.

Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Of course he can improve, but he's been trying to improve his offensive game for years with absolutely nothing to show for it. He may be ahead of the others defensively, but overall he's not that far ahead. If Bynum could actually stay on the court for a season or two, I think he'd easily be the best overall Center. Sucks for him that he can't. lol

I get that...but he also averaged 22.9 ppg in Orlando in a season. His post game is not good, but it isn't as bad as ppl make it out to be. He has to work on it...no question about it...but if you can average almost 23 ppg in this league on 59% shooting - you're pretty darn good.
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Originally posted by jrg:
Dunno who else he wants to learn from

Needs to put in the time himself.
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Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
I get that...but he also averaged 22.9 ppg in Orlando in a season. His post game is not good, but it isn't as bad as ppl make it out to be. He has to work on it...no question about it...but if you can average almost 23 ppg in this league on 59% shooting - you're pretty darn good.

Ya, that happens when you're the first option on a mediocre team. That team was terrible talent-wise.
Dwight should never be a team's first or second option on offense, he isn't even close to good offensively..
[ Edited by InconvenienTTruth21 on Jul 5, 2013 at 11:06 PM ]
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by jrg:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
I don't have any ill will toward Dwight.

I guess now that I think from a Laker fans perspective, I understand.

Howard was IT in Orlando. He was just another guy for you. Imagine if Kobe left...that is how I took it.

Point taken, but he's got a looooooooong way to go before he's at Kobe's level. I get what your saying, but I'm just saying. lol

Kobe won championships for this team and is one of the greatest players ever. Dwight's an all star who decided to leave because he couldn't get it done on his own. I understand what you are saying James but its not even close.
Bitter sweet. While I don't like Dwight at all as a beacon for the Lakers, I do wish the Lakers were able to retain his value. Good riddance to him as a person. However, I don't know if I'll ever root for this team the same way I did when Jerry was the owner. I just flat out don't like Jim's decisions (I'm assuming he's calling some/many shots over Mitch).

I have a sinking feeling that instead of rebuilding (which everyone knows is the right thing to do), we are going to cling on to mediocrity using Kobe's last years in a pathetic attempt to drag this on. I'm so proud of what the Lakers have done the last 5 years, but it's time to move on. It's time to build a base of young talent that only a few years of mediocrity can bring. I'm sad that Kobe can't have a team worthy of his final years, and in all honesty, I don't look forward to him leading a team with little hope. I just don't see the Lakers contending for anything, anytime soon. Reboot.
Originally posted by AmpLee:
However, I don't know if I'll ever root for this team the same way I did when Jerry was the owner. I just flat out don't like Jim's decisions (I'm assuming he's calling some/many shots over Mitch).

Sorry Amp, you're my boy and all, but that's pretty f**king s**tty of you as a fan. Did you abandon the Niners when York took over and we went to s**t? Did you jump back on the bandwagon when the reigns were finally handed to Jed, the next generation of the family with the knowledge and passion that was needed to build a championship contender?
Originally posted by StOnEy333:
Originally posted by AmpLee:
However, I don't know if I'll ever root for this team the same way I did when Jerry was the owner. I just flat out don't like Jim's decisions (I'm assuming he's calling some/many shots over Mitch).

Sorry Amp, you're my boy and all, but that's pretty f**king s**tty of you as a fan. Did you abandon the Niners when York took over and we went to s**t? Did you jump back on the bandwagon when the reigns were finally handed to Jed, the next generation of the family with the knowledge and passion that was needed to build a championship contender?

Eh, I don't know that calling out my fandom is deserving. Furthermore, equating bandwaggoning and my name is downright slander and pretty much the worst kind of insult I consider.

I simply don't like the direction of our franchise and won't support decisions I think are poor.
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