There are 148 users in the forums

Remember
Not a member? Register Now!

2012-13 Golden State Warriors Thread.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
LeBron should take his talents to the Bay Area in 2015. I agree that the future looks good but the Dubs have to get a premier FA to get over the hump

All the pieces are there for that to happen. Nothing's more valuable than a good player on a rookie contract, and will have 2 of them in Barnes & Thompson, + 2 decent role players on rookie contracts in Green & Ezeli. To put it in perspective, those 4 players COMBINED will make less in 2014-15 than Richard Jefferson made this year.
we could help kobe go out on top lol
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
LeBron should take his talents to the Bay Area in 2015. I agree that the future looks good but the Dubs have to get a premier FA to get over the hump

All the pieces are there for that to happen. Nothing's more valuable than a good player on a rookie contract, and will have 2 of them in Barnes & Thompson, + 2 decent role players on rookie contracts in Green & Ezeli. To put it in perspective, those 4 players COMBINED will make less in 2014-15 than Richard Jefferson made this year.

Beans, Jefferson, and Bogut are expirings after next season..
  • vaden
  • Veteran
  • Posts: 2,941
Vegas making me nervous. They still have the Spurs as pretty big favorites to win this series even though the public is betting heavily on the Warriors in game 3. A lot of wiseguy $$$ must be rolling in on SA.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I cant help but remember how many people in the WZ thought the Monta for Bogut trade was just horrible. You know who you are! That deal was brillant and you have to give ownership and management credit for pulling it off.

WIthout that trade:

No Legit Starting Center
No Harrision Barnes
No Festes Ezeli
2 Small Undersized guards

NO PLAYOFFS and a BLEAK FUTURE

Still think you guys shoulda dealt him to the Nets for the pick they gave up for Gerald Wallace. I know this year is a ton of fun for Warrior fans and Bogut's gotten healthy at the right time, but gimme a core of Curry, Thompson, Barnes, & Andre Drummond any day of the week. You'd have those guys, Lee, + cap space in '14 as well. That's about as bright of a future as you can get.

When was that offer on the table?

Even if it was that's still making a trade on hindsight. No one thought Dion Waiters would be drafted before Barnes which is why Barnes slipped.
[ Edited by Hopper on May 10, 2013 at 7:37 AM ]
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
LeBron should take his talents to the Bay Area in 2015. I agree that the future looks good but the Dubs have to get a premier FA to get over the hump

i agree with this lol. let them expire, bid for LeBron.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I cant help but remember how many people in the WZ thought the Monta for Bogut trade was just horrible. You know who you are! That deal was brillant and you have to give ownership and management credit for pulling it off.

WIthout that trade:

No Legit Starting Center
No Harrision Barnes
No Festes Ezeli
2 Small Undersized guards

NO PLAYOFFS and a BLEAK FUTURE

I was one of those people. Monta was my favorite Warrior and at some point, I knew we were going to trade him just because his name was on the trade block every year. Reason I hated the trade was because it netted us Captain Jack (who I despised already) and Bogut (who I felt was injury prone).

I admitted to eating crow and I hope that Bogut stays healthy and continues to come up huge for us in the playoffs.
Originally posted by nothing03:
This article just came in today about Monta almost having a fight with Larry Sanders after their loss to the heat. Monta thought that Sanders is calling him out as selfish lol.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/monta-ellis-larry-sanders-had-reportedly-separated-engaging-175044303.html

I heard about this on the radio this morning. Not to mention a somewhat subtle jab yesterday from Mark Jackson. A jab that could've been towards Monta, but we'll never know.

Sucks to hear about Monta, though. The guy is such a competitor, but he'll always have a cloud over him because of situations like the moped, the warriors employee, his antics during media day, and the fact that he was the main guy during some real bad years for the Dubs.

I'd like to see him go to Chicago as a sixth man.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by nothing03:
This article just came in today about Monta almost having a fight with Larry Sanders after their loss to the heat. Monta thought that Sanders is calling him out as selfish lol.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/monta-ellis-larry-sanders-had-reportedly-separated-engaging-175044303.html

I heard about this on the radio this morning. Not to mention a somewhat subtle jab yesterday from Mark Jackson. A jab that could've been towards Monta, but we'll never know.

Sucks to hear about Monta, though. The guy is such a competitor, but he'll always have a cloud over him because of situations like the moped, the warriors employee, his antics during media day, and the fact that he was the main guy during some real bad years for the Dubs.

I'd like to see him go to Chicago as a sixth man.

as much as i liked monta...he was holding this team back
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by nothing03:
This article just came in today about Monta almost having a fight with Larry Sanders after their loss to the heat. Monta thought that Sanders is calling him out as selfish lol.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/monta-ellis-larry-sanders-had-reportedly-separated-engaging-175044303.html

I heard about this on the radio this morning. Not to mention a somewhat subtle jab yesterday from Mark Jackson. A jab that could've been towards Monta, but we'll never know.

Sucks to hear about Monta, though. The guy is such a competitor, but he'll always have a cloud over him because of situations like the moped, the warriors employee, his antics during media day, and the fact that he was the main guy during some real bad years for the Dubs.

I'd like to see him go to Chicago as a sixth man.

as much as i liked monta...he was holding this team back

yea, it was difficult for him to be "the man" of a team with no talent and having to share the spotlight with Curry.
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by nothing03:
This article just came in today about Monta almost having a fight with Larry Sanders after their loss to the heat. Monta thought that Sanders is calling him out as selfish lol.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/monta-ellis-larry-sanders-had-reportedly-separated-engaging-175044303.html

I heard about this on the radio this morning. Not to mention a somewhat subtle jab yesterday from Mark Jackson. A jab that could've been towards Monta, but we'll never know.

Sucks to hear about Monta, though. The guy is such a competitor, but he'll always have a cloud over him because of situations like the moped, the warriors employee, his antics during media day, and the fact that he was the main guy during some real bad years for the Dubs.

I'd like to see him go to Chicago as a sixth man.

as much as i liked monta...he was holding this team back

yea, it was difficult for him to be "the man" of a team with no talent and having to share the spotlight with Curry.

Curry just has that positive aura ..which i didn't get from Monta and i think it spreads through out the team, franchise and fans
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on May 10, 2013 at 8:16 AM ]
Originally posted by Hopper:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I cant help but remember how many people in the WZ thought the Monta for Bogut trade was just horrible. You know who you are! That deal was brillant and you have to give ownership and management credit for pulling it off.

WIthout that trade:

No Legit Starting Center
No Harrision Barnes
No Festes Ezeli
2 Small Undersized guards

NO PLAYOFFS and a BLEAK FUTURE

Still think you guys shoulda dealt him to the Nets for the pick they gave up for Gerald Wallace. I know this year is a ton of fun for Warrior fans and Bogut's gotten healthy at the right time, but gimme a core of Curry, Thompson, Barnes, & Andre Drummond any day of the week. You'd have those guys, Lee, + cap space in '14 as well. That's about as bright of a future as you can get.

When was that offer on the table?

Even if it was that's still making a trade on hindsight. No one thought Dion Waiters would be drafted before Barnes which is why Barnes slipped.

I dont think that offer was ever on the table. The assumption was that Monta was worth as much or more than Gerald Wallace and thus they could have gotten that high pick.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by Hopper:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I cant help but remember how many people in the WZ thought the Monta for Bogut trade was just horrible. You know who you are! That deal was brillant and you have to give ownership and management credit for pulling it off.

WIthout that trade:

No Legit Starting Center
No Harrision Barnes
No Festes Ezeli
2 Small Undersized guards

NO PLAYOFFS and a BLEAK FUTURE

Still think you guys shoulda dealt him to the Nets for the pick they gave up for Gerald Wallace. I know this year is a ton of fun for Warrior fans and Bogut's gotten healthy at the right time, but gimme a core of Curry, Thompson, Barnes, & Andre Drummond any day of the week. You'd have those guys, Lee, + cap space in '14 as well. That's about as bright of a future as you can get.

When was that offer on the table?

Even if it was that's still making a trade on hindsight. No one thought Dion Waiters would be drafted before Barnes which is why Barnes slipped.

I dont think that offer was ever on the table. The assumption was that Monta was worth as much or more than Gerald Wallace and thus they could have gotten that high pick.

That, and I believe the Nets did show a little interest in Monta.
Originally posted by Hopper:
When was that offer on the table?

Even if it was that's still making a trade on hindsight. No one thought Dion Waiters would be drafted before Barnes which is why Barnes slipped.

I was advocating that deal at the time, not in hindsight. I didn't know who would be available at which picks either, but I thought it was a tremendous draft and the ability to have two Top 7 picks in it would have been ideal.

Like John & SF69ers said, it's an inference. We don't know 99% of the deals that are on the table. But if the Nets were willing to trade their pick for Wallace, it's likely that they would have done the same for Monta.
[ Edited by LA9erFan on May 10, 2013 at 8:50 AM ]
Originally posted by SF69ers:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
I cant help but remember how many people in the WZ thought the Monta for Bogut trade was just horrible. You know who you are! That deal was brillant and you have to give ownership and management credit for pulling it off.

WIthout that trade:

No Legit Starting Center
No Harrision Barnes
No Festes Ezeli
2 Small Undersized guards

NO PLAYOFFS and a BLEAK FUTURE

I was one of those people. Monta was my favorite Warrior and at some point, I knew we were going to trade him just because his name was on the trade block every year. Reason I hated the trade was because it netted us Captain Jack (who I despised already) and Bogut (who I felt was injury prone).

I admitted to eating crow and I hope that Bogut stays healthy and continues to come up huge for us in the playoffs.

Trust me.. there were others with far worse reactions that yours. I liked Monta too but I knew Curry or Monta had to go for a big man and I've always been a Curry guy. Now, this trade could have blown up in their faces too. They could have lost the coin flip or won 1 more game and lost out on Barnes. Or, he could have been taken already. Everything fell just right for the Warriors.

The other trade with San Antonio was REALLY ripped because the Warriors took on Jefferson's contract. I think that was also a great move because they got Ezeli, rid themselves of a cancer in SJax, and set themselves up to have a lot of money come off their books right before a great FA class.

I was really down on the Warriors future 2 years ago. But new ownership, bringing in Jerry West, hiring a smart young GM, making shrewd trades, and having an excellent draft class ( hell. Draymond Green in the 2nd rd!!!) has quickly turned things around. 2015 could really be the year where this team is a true contender for a title.
Get the Latest News at WarriorsCentral.com