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2012-13 Golden State Warriors Thread.

Originally posted by marshniners24:
When Bogut was in at the end he looked bad.

One thing I've noticed about his game is he doesn't contest shots when people drive at him, he kind of fades back to get the rebound.

Another thing is he wouldn't stay on Diaw. That dude can shoot and he was hanging out in the paint as Diaw knocked down 2 huge jumpers.

That PnR defense is by design, to give up the Parker mid range jumper. I noticed that as well. That's not a decision that Bogut makes, that's determined by the coaching staff. Bogut didn't make a difference when he came back, but it's hard to put out a fire once it's started. The Spurs had the momentum. I'd live with Boris Diaw shooting open jumpers.

As for the Hack-A-Bogut, if he shoots 40% from the FT line, it sure as hell woulda created more points per possession than the terrible possessions that the Dubs were getting at the end of the 4th. The Hack-A-Whoever strategy is bad strategy, and I don't understand why coaches can't do simple math.
Originally posted by bayarealuv:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by bayarealuv:
1) R JEFF IS TRASH LOL

2) HOW THE FUK DOES BALKIE GET THAT OPEN?

3) WHY DOES J JACK GET THE LAST SHOT?

Trent Baalke?

ginobili lol

I figured
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
The Spurs had to go on an unbelievable run in order to beat you in their house, and you guys think this series is over? C'mon now.

tim duncan's stomach flu wont get worse....
Originally posted by LA9erFan:

As for the Hack-A-Bogut, if he shoots 40% from the FT line, it sure as hell woulda created more points per possession than the terrible possessions that the Dubs were getting at the end of the 4th. The Hack-A-Whoever strategy is bad strategy, and I don't understand why coaches can't do simple math.

I agree completely. We would have sealed the deal had we kept Bogut in the game and they kept fouling him. Hack-a-whoever does not work for multiple possessions. If he just hits 1/2 free throws, it's a victory. Any team that averages 1 point per possession will win the vast majority of the time.

It would also be counter productive for San Antonio because it slows down their offense. They can't run and gun off missed free throws like they can off missed shots and turnovers.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
I agree completely. We would have sealed the deal had we kept Bogut in the game and they kept fouling him. Hack-a-whoever does not work for multiple possessions. If he just hits 1/2 free throws, it's a victory. Any team that averages 1 point per possession will win the vast majority of the time.

It would also be counter productive for San Antonio because it slows down their offense. They can't run and gun off missed free throws like they can off missed shots and turnovers.

Especially when you're up by 16. And bingo about slowing down their offense. How many buckets in that comeback were in transition off of misses and TOs? Just a terrible coaching decision.
Originally posted by OregonDuckNiner:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by OregonDuckNiner:
What kept bugging me all game was the fact that Klay fouled out on a phantom BS call right before the Spurs went on their run. Once Parker wasn't being guarded by Klay anymore, he goes off and brings them back. I guarantee you that Klay, like he had all game, stopped Parker on one of his drives to the lane, and that one stop would've been the difference in the game.

Then our second best wing defender fouls out on another phantom call. Green didn't even touch anyone on that offensive rebound.

Sorry, I've to disagree with you. Both were fouls...Klay was an idiot to play aggressively on defense with 5 fouls. Green's foul was even more obvious.

I don't know what to say. Klay beat Parker to the spot, shuffled his feet and had his hands straight up in the air. He simply beat him to the baseline and Parker had no choice to but fall and dribble it out of bounds. Even Webber said that was a BS call.

I only saw the Green foul once, and from the aerial view it didn't look like he touched anyone.

Thompson had position, that was nothing more than Parker/Duncan getting the Kobe treatment. And on the Green play it didn't look to me like he actually pushed, looked more like a good flop. But that's just the way it is in the NBA, the star players and "chosen" teams are going to get the vast majority of those calls. But that said, it wasn't the refs forcing Mark Jackson and the Warriors to get stupid over the last 4 mins of regulation.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
I agree completely. We would have sealed the deal had we kept Bogut in the game and they kept fouling him. Hack-a-whoever does not work for multiple possessions. If he just hits 1/2 free throws, it's a victory. Any team that averages 1 point per possession will win the vast majority of the time.

It would also be counter productive for San Antonio because it slows down their offense. They can't run and gun off missed free throws like they can off missed shots and turnovers.

Especially when you're up by 16. And bingo about slowing down their offense. How many buckets in that comeback were in transition off of misses and TOs? Just a terrible coaching decision.

Darn near all of them now that I think about it.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by JerryRice1848:
Somebody tell me why the hell Bogut was out for that 18 point collapse

I was yelling the same thing at my TV. No presence in the paint, weakened rebounding, and no one who could set a decent screen on offense. That lost the game.

Because.............. POP was smart early on and did the hack a Bogut. That put the thought in Jackson's head to not have him in the game.

HUGE edge to the Spurs when it comes to coaching. Hard to overcome that.

If Jarett Jack didn't choke again - Warriors had that game. How can he be in lineup in close games in playoffs after that Denver series? He has made too many silly mistakes in these situations. Really bad coaching.

Klay had fouled out. Pretty much no choice. I dont blame Jackson for that but I do for not having Bogut in there.

After that Denver series, I'd not put Jack on the court in closing minutes. He has been the catalyst in blowing up leads. I rather have an average player on the court than a stupid player.
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
After that Denver series, I'd not put Jack on the court in closing minutes. He has been the catalyst in blowing up leads. I rather have an average player on the court than a stupid player.

I think any coach is going to play the guys that got them there. Jack was huge for the Warriors this year and hit huge shots and played very well. Yes, he was awful againt the Nuggets but I dont blame Jackson for playing him at the end. Especially with Klay having fouled out. Who is he going to play instead?
tough loss dudes I don't know how they blew that one.
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
After that Denver series, I'd not put Jack on the court in closing minutes. He has been the catalyst in blowing up leads. I rather have an average player on the court than a stupid player.

I think any coach is going to play the guys that got them there. Jack was huge for the Warriors this year and hit huge shots and played very well. Yes, he was awful againt the Nuggets but I dont blame Jackson for playing him at the end. Especially with Klay having fouled out. Who is he going to play instead?

Jack actually had a couple clutch plays at the end of both games despite having some WTF moments..live and die with him
Originally posted by marshniners24:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
After that Denver series, I'd not put Jack on the court in closing minutes. He has been the catalyst in blowing up leads. I rather have an average player on the court than a stupid player.

I think any coach is going to play the guys that got them there. Jack was huge for the Warriors this year and hit huge shots and played very well. Yes, he was awful againt the Nuggets but I dont blame Jackson for playing him at the end. Especially with Klay having fouled out. Who is he going to play instead?

Jack actually had a couple clutch plays at the end of both games despite having some WTF moments..live and die with him

Yep. And if truth be told, Curry was as much to blame there down the stretch. Missed shots, turnovers. Now, Steph was amazing in the 3rd quarter and he played every single minute so Im sure he was exhausted. Still, he played poorly too in the last few minutes. I just cant lay all the blame on Jack.
I missed the game but it looked like a hell of a game. We got game 2
Originally posted by YungAce:
I missed the game but it looked like a hell of a game. We got game 2

hope you're right bruh.. tough L though.. gotta sleep it off
[ Edited by bayarealuv on May 6, 2013 at 11:14 PM ]
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by marshniners24:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
After that Denver series, I'd not put Jack on the court in closing minutes. He has been the catalyst in blowing up leads. I rather have an average player on the court than a stupid player.

I think any coach is going to play the guys that got them there. Jack was huge for the Warriors this year and hit huge shots and played very well. Yes, he was awful againt the Nuggets but I dont blame Jackson for playing him at the end. Especially with Klay having fouled out. Who is he going to play instead?

Jack actually had a couple clutch plays at the end of both games despite having some WTF moments..live and die with him

Yep. And if truth be told, Curry was as much to blame there down the stretch. Missed shots, turnovers. Now, Steph was amazing in the 3rd quarter and he played every single minute so Im sure he was exhausted. Still, he played poorly too in the last few minutes. I just cant lay all the blame on Jack.

It's not Curry's fault. It's Mark Jackson's fault IMO for not resting him, even when they had a huge lead in the fourth quarter.
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