2013 San Francisco Giants Thread | Page 3227

Sep 28, 2013 at 12:09 PM

InconvenientTruth21
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Originally posted by IdentityCrisis:

Originally posted by Garcia:
We needed Pence. We have no other options. No OF prospects.

Choo would cost the same but Id rather have Pence than Choo.

I'd like to see the Giants maybe swing a deal for a guy like Josh Willingham / Pat Burrell type.

Definitely rather have Choo than Pence. 100 times out of 100

Choo is so underrated because he doesnt put up big numbers. I'd easily take him over Pence too

Sep 28, 2013 at 12:15 PM

#48392

pdizo916
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john's going to be pissed about this contract.

I think i hit the nail on the head with the numbers. I don't think he could've gotten more on the open market.....

Sep 28, 2013 at 12:28 PM

#48393

solidg2000
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#17 Shin-Soo Choo
Cincinnati Reds2013 Record: 90-70
BA HR RBI
.287 21 54

#8 Hunter Pence
San Francisco Giants2013 Record: 75-85
BA HR RBI
.282 26 94

Neither deserve over 12 mil a year

Sep 28, 2013 at 1:01 PM

#48394

Rubberneck36
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Originally posted by solidg2000:
#17 Shin-Soo Choo
Cincinnati Reds2013 Record: 90-70
BA HR RBI
.287 21 54

#8 Hunter Pence
San Francisco Giants2013 Record: 75-85
BA HR RBI
.282 26 94

Neither deserve over 12 mil a year

I agree they both don't deserve 18 mil, but stats aren't the reason. The giants haven't quite put guys on base and in scoring position for Pence. All of our hitters pretty much created their own stuff. Pence can steal bases as well, which isn't reflected in your post. Also he plays everyday. Good defender.

Sep 28, 2013 at 1:06 PM

#48395

robniner
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Congrats in locking up Pence. He wanted to stay there so he got what he requested.

Sep 28, 2013 at 1:10 PM

#48396

sincalfaithful
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
So far..
.
Dont Like it........
NJ
Stalyn
Identity
Oregon

Like it
Boast
Garcia
Jeff

Put me down for the don't like it, what a f**king joke

Sep 28, 2013 at 1:19 PM

#48397

Garce
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Posts: 58,623

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
So far..
.
Dont Like it........
NJ
Stalyn
Identity
Oregon

Like it
Boast
Garcia
Jeff

Put me down for the don't like it, what a f**king joke

lol. thats a little much, dude is 6 million over paid, big deal.

Sep 28, 2013 at 1:22 PM

#48398

sincalfaithful
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Posts: 27,712

Originally posted by Garcia:
Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
So far..
.
Dont Like it........
NJ
Stalyn
Identity
Oregon

Like it
Boast
Garcia
Jeff

Put me down for the don't like it, what a f**king joke

lol. thats a little much, dude is 6 million over paid, big deal.

Money that could've gone towards a decent LF

Sep 28, 2013 at 1:51 PM

#48399

itlynstalyn
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Posts: 38,520

Originally posted by Garcia:
Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
So far..
.
Dont Like it........
NJ
Stalyn
Identity
Oregon

Like it
Boast
Garcia
Jeff

Put me down for the don't like it, what a f**king joke

lol. thats a little much, dude is 6 million over paid, big deal.

X 5 years = $30 million overpaid.

Basically takes the spot of Zito's contract after this year.

Won't have money to sign Panda long-term now regardless of whether they want to or not.

Will sign Timmy for a ridiculous amount, get a s**tty back-end starter and fail to get any impact international players and hope for the best again next year.

Sep 28, 2013 at 1:54 PM

#48400

redrathman
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Posts: 5,578

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:

Originally posted by Garcia:

Originally posted by sincalfaithful:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
So far..
.
Dont Like it........
NJ
Stalyn
Identity
Oregon

Like it
Boast
Garcia
Jeff

Put me down for the don't like it, what a f**king joke

lol. thats a little much, dude is 6 million over paid, big deal.

X 5 years = $30 million overpaid.

Basically takes the spot of Zito's contract after this year.

Won't have money to sign Panda long-term now regardless of whether they want to or not.

Will sign Timmy for a ridiculous amount, get a s**tty back-end starter and fail to get any impact international players and hope for the best again next year.

Hoping for the best worked out pretty well in '10 and '12.

Sep 28, 2013 at 1:57 PM

#48401

OregonDuckNiner
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Posts: 6,385

Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
X 5 years = $30 million overpaid.

Basically takes the spot of Zito's contract after this year.

Won't have money to sign Panda long-term now regardless of whether they want to or not.

Will sign Timmy for a ridiculous amount, get a s**tty back-end starter and fail to get any impact international players and hope for the best again next year.

That is exactly what I'm worried about, and I can see that happening now too. This offseason had so much potential, but we shot ourselves in the foot overpaying for Pence. There's not enough money to go around to find two more SP, a LF and a late-inning reliever. We're screwed if we don't budge on the $130 million payroll.

Sep 28, 2013 at 1:57 PM

#48402

Rubberneck36
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Posts: 130,225

60 mil wasnt gonna get it done dudes, quit overreacting. Most thought 75 mil would.

Sep 28, 2013 at 2:03 PM

#48403

itlynstalyn
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Posts: 38,520

Originally posted by redrathman:
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Originally posted by Garcia:
Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
So far..
.
Dont Like it........
NJ
Stalyn
Identity
Oregon

Like it
Boast
Garcia
Jeff

Put me down for the don't like it, what a f**king joke

lol. thats a little much, dude is 6 million over paid, big deal.

X 5 years = $30 million overpaid.

Basically takes the spot of Zito's contract after this year.

Won't have money to sign Panda long-term now regardless of whether they want to or not.

Will sign Timmy for a ridiculous amount, get a s**tty back-end starter and fail to get any impact international players and hope for the best again next year.

Hoping for the best worked out pretty well in '10 and '12.

Yeah, totally. We didn't add Hunter Pence or Marco Scutaro or anything for our run in 2012 because we had such great hitters.

Many people, myself included said Sabean blew last year's off season by trying to keep the same team and he's doing the same thing again minus Zito when it CLEARLY didn't work this year.

Sep 28, 2013 at 2:05 PM

#48404

Hopper
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I'm fine with the Pence deal. Power, good arm, speed and durable.

I just hope Sabean gets us a quality LF unlike last winter.

Sep 28, 2013 at 2:12 PM

#48405

MuggD
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Posts: 37,990

Pence is just so streaky. If he gets in a funk it's bad. Glad to keep him though and hopefully they shake all the shekels from their pockets for once.

I always wanted to use shekels in a sentence.