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  • Garcia
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Originally posted by ads_2006:
i hope teh lord returns

but for 2-3 million only

we pay our best relievers that much.

Affeldt Makes 6 Mill.
[ Edited by Garcia on Jun 19, 2013 at 4:01 PM ]
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
2 out of 3 from one of the hotter teams in the league after coming off a tough road trip. Not bad at all!

Take it especially considering we could have been swept. Clutch hits and Romo= success.

Well, I think we were closer to sweeping them then they were to sweeping us, wouldn't you say?
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Jun 19, 2013 at 3:59 PM ]
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
2 out of 3 from one of the hotter teams in the league after coming off a tough road trip. Not bad at all!

Take it especially considering we could have been swept. Clutch hits and Romo= success.

Well, I think we were closer to sweeping them then they were to sweeping us, wouldn't you say?

Yep. All 3 games could have gone either way.
Btw, I think there are a number of pitchers we could sign/trade for that are more affordable and can produce about what Zito does for us. You just have to look at that $7M buyout as a sunk cost and move on from the guy.
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Btw, I think there are a number of pitchers we could sign/trade for that are more affordable and can produce about what Zito does for us. You just have to look at that $7M buyout as a sunk cost and move on from the guy.

EXACTLY!
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Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Btw, I think there are a number of pitchers we could sign/trade for that are more affordable and can produce about what Zito does for us. You just have to look at that $7M buyout as a sunk cost and move on from the guy.

Okay.

What about Lincecum and Vogey? Who do you replace them with especially, if you do sign a FA or trade to replace Zito?
[ Edited by Garcia on Jun 19, 2013 at 4:54 PM ]
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I want to hear some specifics.... names... realistic scenarios. So far I have heard none.
Originally posted by Garcia:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Btw, I think there are a number of pitchers we could sign/trade for that are more affordable and can produce about what Zito does for us. You just have to look at that $7M buyout as a sunk cost and move on from the guy.

Okay.

What about Lincecum and Vogey? Who do you replace them with especially, if you do a sign a trade to replace Zito?

What does this mean in English? What is a sign a trade?
Originally posted by Garcia:
I want to hear some specifics.... names... realistic scenarios. So far I have heard none.

Oh.. but giving Barry Zito another 16 million is realistic?
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Oh.. but giving Barry Zito another 16 million is realistic?

Over two years. 7M/per so that would be 14m total.
I'm still waiting for your solution, you have provided nothing.
[ Edited by Garcia on Jun 19, 2013 at 4:55 PM ]
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Average starting pitcher makes about $5m/year. Zito will make $7m next year no matter what. Sign him to an extension to make both sides happy so we dont burn $7m next year for nothing.
Originally posted by Garcia:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Oh.. but giving Barry Zito another 16 million is realistic?

Over two years. 7M/per so that would be 14m total.
I'm still waiting for your solution, you have provided nothing.

LOL. Not sure I need to provide anything to you other than to say paying Barry Zito 21 to 23 million dollars is about as realistic as Pablo Sandoval checking in at 190 next year.
Originally posted by Garcia:
Average starting pitcher makes about $5m/year. Zito will make $7m next year no matter what. Sign him to an extension to make both sides happy so we dont burn $7m next year for nothing.

I want Matt Garza if he's not extended as a high-risk, high-reward move (I hope he won't make a ton of money but it's the MLB). I'd keep Vogey at $6.5 for next year as I think he'll turn the corner after he's healthy. I'd then try to bring up one minor league pitcher, probably Kickham for a full season and let him take his bumps.
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Originally posted by Garcia:
Average starting pitcher makes about $5m/year. Zito will make $7m next year no matter what. Sign him to an extension to make both sides happy so we dont burn $7m next year for nothing.

I want Matt Garza if he's not extended as a high-risk, high-reward move (I hope he won't make a ton of money but it's the MLB). I'd keep Vogey at $6.5 for next year as I think he'll turn the corner after he's healthy. I'd then try to bring up one minor league pitcher, probably Kickham for a full season and let him take his bumps.

Garza is definitely an option, so is trading for Bud Norris (arbitration eligible for the next two years) or signing someone like AJ Burnett, Scott Feldman or even Paul Maholm. I really like Maholm or Norris specifically and think either one (or both) could be great additions.

MadBum
Cain
Maholm (LHP - sign)
Vogey
Norris (RHP - trade)
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Jun 19, 2013 at 7:52 PM ]
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Originally posted by Garcia:
Average starting pitcher makes about $5m/year. Zito will make $7m next year no matter what. Sign him to an extension to make both sides happy so we dont burn $7m next year for nothing.

I want Matt Garza if he's not extended as a high-risk, high-reward move (I hope he won't make a ton of money but it's the MLB). I'd keep Vogey at $6.5 for next year as I think he'll turn the corner after he's healthy. I'd then try to bring up one minor league pitcher, probably Kickham for a full season and let him take his bumps.

Garza is definitely an option, so is trading for Bud Norris (arbitration eligible for the next two years) or signing someone like AJ Burnett, Scott Feldman or even Paul Maholm. I really like Maholm or Norris specifically and think either one (or both) could be great additions.

MadBum
Cain
Maholm (LHP - sign)
Vogey
Norris (RHP - trade)

I would have to take a wait and see on Vogey. Quite frankly I could see Zito, Lincy, and Vogelsong all gone. That is a lot of money saved and we could go get some pitching. I like Maholm and Norris both.
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