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2013 San Francisco Giants Thread
Feb 18, 2013 at 8:30 PM
- Leathaface
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Gonna make a poster outta this ...
Feb 18, 2013 at 8:45 PM
- OregonDuckNiner
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^^^ That's a dope picture. What site do you use to turn .jpg's into posters?
Feb 18, 2013 at 11:15 PM
- jdt84_2
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Originally posted by vrabbit:
F.C. Barcelona has MILLIONS invested in Lionel Messi but there is no way in hell that THEY determine whether he participates in a World Cup for Argentina.
yes. but as a soccer player you don't have a limited number of minutes, and risk a 1-2 year injury if you exceed it. also the world cup takes place during the soccer season so the players are in game shape.
these guys are out there to win before they are fully worked up and then if they work up too soon it could cause problems in sugust september and october. what happens if one of these aces pitches into the world series, and end up well over 300 innings.
and as they said. there is actually no world competition that is as "important" as the world cup(horrible grammer so what, you want to fight about it?)
Feb 19, 2013 at 12:38 AM
- DertyDonahue
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Anybody know what the Giants offered the Cubbies for Soriano last year?
Feb 19, 2013 at 1:07 AM
- Niners99
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Originally posted by vrabbit:I just find it funny that most people in the US give more value to their club being World Champions than to their country actually beating the rest of the World.
Then these tournaments come around and Japan actually earns the title of World Champions. Winning the WBC would mean nothing to you guys?
Theres no meaning behind the WBC. No history, and the teams arent truly the "best" each country has to offer. Besides, a small tournament doesnt dictate who has the best team. A real baseball season takes 7 months.
The WS Champion is a team of players that went through 6 months of baseball against the best players in the world trying their hardest, and then a 7th month against the best of the best. The WBC is little more than an exhibition.
Feb 19, 2013 at 6:09 AM
- notsoempty86
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Originally posted by Leathaface:
Gonna make a poster outta this ...
still doesn't feel real sometimes.
Feb 19, 2013 at 6:39 AM
- vrabbit
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I'll give a more detailed reply when I get to a computer, instead of on my phone while taking a dump.
Silly old man, you don't need 5 starters for a WBC, 3 would be just fine
Silly old man, you don't need 5 starters for a WBC, 3 would be just fine
Feb 19, 2013 at 6:57 AM
- Rubberneck36
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When did this thread turn into the MLB discussions thread? I thought it was the Giants thread.
Feb 19, 2013 at 7:57 AM
- GhostofFredDean74
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by OregonDuckNiner:
No Ryan Braun?
I left off PED users. LOL
Feb 19, 2013 at 7:58 AM
- GhostofFredDean74
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Originally posted by notsoempty86:
Originally posted by Leathaface:
Gonna make a poster outta this ...
still doesn't feel real sometimes.
Feb 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM
- FredFlintstone
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It's a damn shame Sandoval can't be dedicated enough to get in shape
Feb 19, 2013 at 10:12 AM
- vrabbit
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Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
It's a damn shame Sandoval can't be dedicated enough to get in shape
QFT
Feb 19, 2013 at 10:25 AM
- vrabbit
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Originally posted by jdt84_2:
Originally posted by vrabbit:
F.C. Barcelona has MILLIONS invested in Lionel Messi but there is no way in hell that THEY determine whether he participates in a World Cup for Argentina.
yes. but as a soccer player you don't have a limited number of minutes, and risk a 1-2 year injury if you exceed it. also the world cup takes place during the soccer season so the players are in game shape.
these guys are out there to win before they are fully worked up and then if they work up too soon it could cause problems in sugust september and october. what happens if one of these aces pitches into the world series, and end up well over 300 innings.
and as they said. there is actually no world competition that is as "important" as the world cup(horrible grammer so what, you want to fight about it?)
As a soccer player you DO have a limited number of minutes, especially the top clubs (where the best players play) when they get to the point in the season where they're playing twice a week. A midfielder running (on average) on a 50-mile radius for 90 minutes does have limitation. The world cup doesn't take place DURING the regular season, it takes place in the offseason, really.
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by vrabbit:
I just find it funny that most people in the US give more value to their club being World Champions than to their country actually beating the rest of the World.
Then these tournaments come around and Japan actually earns the title of World Champions. Winning the WBC would mean nothing to you guys?
Theres no meaning behind the WBC. No history, and the teams arent truly the "best" each country has to offer. Besides, a small tournament doesnt dictate who has the best team. A real baseball season takes 7 months.
The WS Champion is a team of players that went through 6 months of baseball against the best players in the world trying their hardest, and then a 7th month against the best of the best. The WBC is little more than an exhibition.
you bring up the same point as Jason, and how is the WBC supposed to get any meaning? By continue to throw half-ass teams out there? By your reasoning, the soccer Wold Cup doesn't dictate who has the best team either because a soccer season is about 9 months long.
You need to differentiate COUNTRIES competing to see which one is best from FRANCHISES competing to see which one is best. You can't compare the two.
Feb 19, 2013 at 11:11 AM
- pdizo916
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Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
It's a damn shame Sandoval can't be dedicated enough to get in shape
QFT
Feb 19, 2013 at 12:49 PM
- Niners99
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Originally posted by vrabbit:Originally posted by jdt84_2:Originally posted by vrabbit:F.C. Barcelona has MILLIONS invested in Lionel Messi but there is no way in hell that THEY determine whether he participates in a World Cup for Argentina.
yes. but as a soccer player you don't have a limited number of minutes, and risk a 1-2 year injury if you exceed it. also the world cup takes place during the soccer season so the players are in game shape.
these guys are out there to win before they are fully worked up and then if they work up too soon it could cause problems in sugust september and october. what happens if one of these aces pitches into the world series, and end up well over 300 innings.
and as they said. there is actually no world competition that is as "important" as the world cup(horrible grammer so what, you want to fight about it?)
As a soccer player you DO have a limited number of minutes, especially the top clubs (where the best players play) when they get to the point in the season where they're playing twice a week. A midfielder running (on average) on a 50-mile radius for 90 minutes does have limitation. The world cup doesn't take place DURING the regular season, it takes place in the offseason, really.
Originally posted by Niners99:Originally posted by vrabbit:I just find it funny that most people in the US give more value to their club being World Champions than to their country actually beating the rest of the World.
Then these tournaments come around and Japan actually earns the title of World Champions. Winning the WBC would mean nothing to you guys?
Theres no meaning behind the WBC. No history, and the teams arent truly the "best" each country has to offer. Besides, a small tournament doesnt dictate who has the best team. A real baseball season takes 7 months.
The WS Champion is a team of players that went through 6 months of baseball against the best players in the world trying their hardest, and then a 7th month against the best of the best. The WBC is little more than an exhibition.
you bring up the same point as Jason, and how is the WBC supposed to get any meaning? By continue to throw half-ass teams out there? By your reasoning, the soccer Wold Cup doesn't dictate who has the best team either because a soccer season is about 9 months long.
You need to differentiate COUNTRIES competing to see which one is best from FRANCHISES competing to see which one is best. You can't compare the two.
Major League Baseball is a collection of the best baseball players in the world. If you dont play in the Majors, you probably arent that good. The team that wins it all from that league is the "World Champions".
It has nothing to do with countries. Clearly the US and Dominican Republic produce the best baseball players in the world. We already know which countries are the "best". Soccer had the World Cup because almost every country plays the game at a fanatical level, so theres way more competition. The question isnt "which country is the best?", its "Which team of the best baseball players in the world is the best."