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Originally posted by boast:
lolwut? not with this pitching staff. even if Timmy...

Both Timmy and Zito are FA at the end of the year. Vogey has one more option left. Where do the Giants go after this season to replenish the pitching staff?
oh yea, ramon Ramirez!!!
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by boast:
lolwut? not with this pitching staff. even if Timmy...

Both Timmy and Zito are FA at the end of the year. Vogey has one more option left. Where do the Giants go after this season to replenish the pitching staff?

Not out of the realm of possibility:

2014 projected starting rotation
Matt Cain
Madison Bumgarner
Ryan Vogelsong (club option)
Mike Kickham
Veteran free agent

2015 projected starting rotation
Matt Cain
Madison Bumgarner
Kyle Crick
Mike Kickham
Chris Stratton of Clayton Blackburn
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) The San Francisco Giants have claimed infielder Tony Abreu off waivers from the Kansas City Royals.

Abreu had been designated for assignment by Kansas City on Jan. 25 and the Giants claimed him off outright waivers on Monday.

The 28-year-old Abreu hit .257 with one homer and 15 RBIs in 22 games for the Royals in 2012 after spending a majority of the campaign at Triple-A Omaha.
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Not out of the realm of possibility:

2014 projected starting rotation
Matt Cain
Madison Bumgarner
Ryan Vogelsong (club option)
Mike Kickham
Veteran free agent

2015 projected starting rotation
Matt Cain
Madison Bumgarner
Kyle Crick
Mike Kickham
Chris Stratton of Clayton Blackburn



do you think kickham would be ready by then?
Originally posted by dcsham:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by dcsham:
Early nominee for longest post of the year. Didn't read.

Let me put it simple for you.... the Giants farm system was ranked near the bottom in all of baseball.

That's better. And that bothers you why? We see these rankings all of the time saying how bad we are, and yet we've won two of the last three world series.

We won two of the last three WS because of our farm systems of the past. Our farm system right now is depleted, and will begin to have its effects on the team if they dont find a way to re-stock.

We had a good cycle of top young pitchers coming up, but trading Wheeler kind of broke the bridge to Stratton. Cain-Lincecum-Bumgarner-Wheeler-Stratton wouldve been the ideal progression. Wheeler wouldve been getting ready to come up to the bigs in the 2013-2014 range. Its going to be a while until Stratton, or even Crick is ready to be a mainstay in the rotation.

I kind of worry about our pitching rotation going forward. Unless Lincecum has a mediocre season this year, hes going to be too expensive for the Giants to bring back. Zito had a nice last hoorah in 2012, and it helped win a title. However, hes at the end of the line here. Vogelsong is getting old as well, and hes kind of on a year-to-year performance basis. We dont really have any idea what he'll do as he gets older, since he already came out of nowhere as a late bloomer.

Hopefully Crick and Kickham are the real deal, because Stratton and Blackburn arent going to be ready for a few more years.
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by dcsham:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Originally posted by dcsham:
Early nominee for longest post of the year. Didn't read.

Let me put it simple for you.... the Giants farm system was ranked near the bottom in all of baseball.

That's better. And that bothers you why? We see these rankings all of the time saying how bad we are, and yet we've won two of the last three world series.

We won two of the last three WS because of our farm systems of the past. Our farm system right now is depleted, and will begin to have its effects on the team if they dont find a way to re-stock.

We had a good cycle of top young pitchers coming up, but trading Wheeler kind of broke the bridge to Stratton. Cain-Lincecum-Bumgarner-Wheeler-Stratton wouldve been the ideal progression. Wheeler wouldve been getting ready to come up to the bigs in the 2013-2014 range. Its going to be a while until Stratton, or even Crick is ready to be a mainstay in the rotation.

I kind of worry about our pitching rotation going forward. Unless Lincecum has a mediocre season this year, hes going to be too expensive for the Giants to bring back. Zito had a nice last hoorah in 2012, and it helped win a title. However, hes at the end of the line here. Vogelsong is getting old as well, and hes kind of on a year-to-year performance basis. We dont really have any idea what he'll do as he gets older, since he already came out of nowhere as a late bloomer.

Hopefully Crick and Kickham are the real deal, because Stratton and Blackburn arent going to be ready for a few more years.

When was the last time any of the so called "experts" ranked our farm system in the top 10?
Originally posted by pdizo916:
oh yea, ramon Ramirez!!!

great move. see ya bweeze.
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even if Zack Wheeler
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and DC, the farm system sucks. You cannot continue to win if your talent level is not there, or if you have nothing to use in potential trades. It really isnt that hard to understand.
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Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
and DC, the farm system sucks. You cannot continue to win if your talent level is not there, or if you have nothing to use in potential trades. It really isnt that hard to understand.

Trade Timmy.
Originally posted by pdizo916:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Not out of the realm of possibility:

2014 projected starting rotation
Matt Cain
Madison Bumgarner
Ryan Vogelsong (club option)
Mike Kickham
Veteran free agent

2015 projected starting rotation
Matt Cain
Madison Bumgarner
Kyle Crick
Mike Kickham
Chris Stratton of Clayton Blackburn



do you think kickham would be ready by then?

I think they specifically moved him along quickly so he would be. He'll spend this season in AAA and might even see some time in the majors if all goes well. Now, I'm not saying Kickham will be an all-star by 2014, but I'd bet good money he'll be in the rotation by then.
[ Edited by GhostofFredDean74 on Feb 5, 2013 at 2:37 PM ]
teh lord zito will rise again

and

retain his ace status this season
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