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Originally posted by RogerCraig:
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
This would piss me off if this is what he ends up getting:

Sources: #Mariners have discussed three-year deals with Hamilton in range of $20M to $25M per season.

I assume he just didn't want to come here I guess.

What kind of money were the Giants throwing at him?. At 25 million, I hope it was Monopoly money and here is Park Avenue as well. Obscene. The guy ain't worth it.

Wholeheartedly agree with itlyn. If Hamilton signs a 3/$75M contract with the Mariners, it BETTER BE because Hamilton turned down a similar off from us, not because we didnt offer it.

And to say that $25M isnt worth it for Josh Hamilton is absurd. Check the dudes numbers.

Right now, here are the hitters that are making $22M+ a year:

Mark Teixiera
Prince Fielder
Albert Pujols
Joey Votto
Joe Mauer
Ryan Howard
Alex Rodriguez

At this point in their careers, there isnt a single person on this list that I would rather have over Josh Hamilton. Maaaybe Votto. Regardless, to say one of the best hitters in baseball, a perennial MVP candidate, isnt worth $25M is absurd. If you are going to argue that no player is worth $25M, thats an entirely different argument.
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Wholeheartedly agree with itlyn. If Hamilton signs a 3/$75M contract with the Mariners, it BETTER BE because Hamilton turned down a similar off from us, not because we didnt offer it.

And to say that $25M isnt worth it for Josh Hamilton is absurd. Check the dudes numbers.

Right now, here are the hitters that are making $22M+ a year:

Mark Teixiera
Prince Fielder
Albert Pujols
Joey Votto
Joe Mauer
Ryan Howard
Alex Rodriguez

At this point in their careers, there isnt a single person on this list that I would rather have over Josh Hamilton. Maaaybe Votto. Regardless, to say one of the best hitters in baseball, a perennial MVP candidate, isnt worth $25M is absurd. If you are going to argue that no player is worth $25M, thats an entirely different argument.
Good point. It's a matter of perspective. Relative to other players and their salaries, he's probably worth 25 million.

If Willie Mays was to have been paid by today's money - performance standards how much would have have received? 100 million a year? Greatest player ever.
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Originally posted by RogerCraig:
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
This would piss me off if this is what he ends up getting:

Sources: #Mariners have discussed three-year deals with Hamilton in range of $20M to $25M per season.

I assume he just didn't want to come here I guess.

What kind of money were the Giants throwing at him?. At 25 million, I hope it was Monopoly money and here is Park Avenue as well. Obscene. The guy ain't worth it.

Wholeheartedly agree with itlyn. If Hamilton signs a 3/$75M contract with the Mariners, it BETTER BE because Hamilton turned down a similar off from us, not because we didnt offer it.

And to say that $25M isnt worth it for Josh Hamilton is absurd. Check the dudes numbers.

Right now, here are the hitters that are making $22M+ a year:

Mark Teixiera
Prince Fielder
Albert Pujols
Joey Votto
Joe Mauer
Ryan Howard
Alex Rodriguez

At this point in their careers, there isnt a single person on this list that I would rather have over Josh Hamilton. Maaaybe Votto. Regardless, to say one of the best hitters in baseball, a perennial MVP candidate, isnt worth $25M is absurd. If you are going to argue that no player is worth $25M, thats an entirely different argument.

Stop agreeing with me, I don't like it.
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Originally posted by RogerCraig:
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
This would piss me off if this is what he ends up getting:

Sources: #Mariners have discussed three-year deals with Hamilton in range of $20M to $25M per season.

I assume he just didn't want to come here I guess.

What kind of money were the Giants throwing at him?. At 25 million, I hope it was Monopoly money and here is Park Avenue as well. Obscene. The guy ain't worth it.

Wholeheartedly agree with itlyn. If Hamilton signs a 3/$75M contract with the Mariners, it BETTER BE because Hamilton turned down a similar off from us, not because we didnt offer it.

And to say that $25M isnt worth it for Josh Hamilton is absurd. Check the dudes numbers.

Right now, here are the hitters that are making $22M+ a year:

Mark Teixiera
Prince Fielder
Albert Pujols
Joey Votto
Joe Mauer
Ryan Howard
Alex Rodriguez

At this point in their careers, there isnt a single person on this list that I would rather have over Josh Hamilton. Maaaybe Votto. Regardless, to say one of the best hitters in baseball, a perennial MVP candidate, isnt worth $25M is absurd. If you are going to argue that no player is worth $25M, thats an entirely different argument.

Stop agreeing with me, I don't like it.

Great baseball minds think alike. Sorry about it.
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Originally posted by RogerCraig:
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
This would piss me off if this is what he ends up getting:

Sources: #Mariners have discussed three-year deals with Hamilton in range of $20M to $25M per season.

I assume he just didn't want to come here I guess.

What kind of money were the Giants throwing at him?. At 25 million, I hope it was Monopoly money and here is Park Avenue as well. Obscene. The guy ain't worth it.

Wholeheartedly agree with itlyn. If Hamilton signs a 3/$75M contract with the Mariners, it BETTER BE because Hamilton turned down a similar off from us, not because we didnt offer it.

And to say that $25M isnt worth it for Josh Hamilton is absurd. Check the dudes numbers.

Right now, here are the hitters that are making $22M+ a year:

Mark Teixiera
Prince Fielder
Albert Pujols
Joey Votto
Joe Mauer
Ryan Howard
Alex Rodriguez

At this point in their careers, there isnt a single person on this list that I would rather have over Josh Hamilton. Maaaybe Votto. Regardless, to say one of the best hitters in baseball, a perennial MVP candidate, isnt worth $25M is absurd. If you are going to argue that no player is worth $25M, thats an entirely different argument.

Stop agreeing with me, I don't like it.

On an entirely different note, assume Josh Hamilton gets $25 million/year over three years.

We'd obviously not sign Affeldt/Scutaro/Pagan but our lineup would probably look like this:

1. Blanco CF
2. Arias 2B or Belt 1B
3. Hamilton LF
4. Posey C
5. Pablo 3B
6.Pence RF
7. Belt 1B or Arias 2B
8. Crawford SS

SP

Cain
Bumgarner
Vogelsong
Zito
Timmy

RP
Mijares
Lopez
Kontos
Romo
Casilla
Runzler/Otero, etc.

I would have taken that in two seconds. I believe Blanco can be a table-setter (career average .349 OBP) and Hamilton would more than make up for the losses of Pagan and Scutaro.

All a pipe dream though, I'm pretty sure Hamilton has voiced he didn't want to come here at some point
[ Edited by itlynstalyn on Dec 6, 2012 at 2:56 PM ]
Again, totally agree with you itlyn. Was saying the same thing when people were talking about Swisher taking the LF spot from Blanco. The combination of Blanco & Hamilton far exceeds the combination of Pagan and Swisher.

And to go off your point, I agree that Hamilton, Arias & minor league reliever > Pagan, Scutaro & Affeldt

I was actually going to say Josh Hamilton when you posed the question a few days ago, how would you have spend the $78M that Sabean spent, but at the time I didnt think $78M was realistic for Hamilton....which apparently is now.
why spend money on hamilton?

would rather save for stanton
Stalyn.. I think 80sBaby has a crush on you. LOL
Originally posted by itlynstalyn:
On an entirely different note, assume Josh Hamilton gets $25 million/year over three years.

We'd obviously not sign Affeldt/Scutaro/Pagan but our lineup would probably look like this:

1. Blanco CF
2. Arias 2B or Belt 1B
3. Hamilton LF
4. Posey C
5. Pablo 3B
6.Pence RF
7. Belt 1B or Arias 2B
8. Crawford SS

SP

Cain
Bumgarner
Vogelsong
Zito
Timmy

RP
Mijares
Lopez
Kontos
Romo
Casilla
Runzler/Otero, etc.

I would have taken that in two seconds. I believe Blanco can be a table-setter (career average .349 OBP) and Hamilton would more than make up for the losses of Pagan and Scutaro.

All a pipe dream though, I'm pretty sure Hamilton has voiced he didn't want to come here at some point

i bet hitting at AT&T intimidates Hamilton. that and he thinks all Giants fans are stoners.
Originally posted by ads_2006:
why spend money on hamilton?

would rather save for stanton

Because Giancarlo doesnt become a free agent until 2017. If the latest rumor about Hamilton's potential contract with the Mariners is true, Hamilton will be off the books 2 years before Stanton is an unrestricted free agent.
Were we even interested in Hamilton?
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Stalyn.. I think 80sBaby has a crush on you. LOL

Pshh please. We were just b***hing at each other about Michael Morse a few days ago! LOL
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Were we even interested in Hamilton?

Seriously doubt it. I think Sabean had his mind made up that he was going to keep this team intact and sign Pagan, Scutaro, and Affeldt. I dont think Hamilton was ever even a remote consideration.
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
Originally posted by Ninerjohn:
Stalyn.. I think 80sBaby has a crush on you. LOL

Pshh please. We were just b***hing at each other about Michael Morse a few days ago! LOL

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