Originally posted by schmons:
UW is not the same UW that went 1-11 a couple of years ago with very little talent. They were ranked 25th before the game and steve sarkisian has helped mightly with the recruiting since taking over as the head coach. UW isn't a joke of a program that it once was.
Coby Fleener should be one of the top TE prospects in the nation. He's got it all for a TE, size (6'6" 245lbs), speed, strength, good hands, and he is athletic. Very versatile, can stretch the field with his speed and hands and can stay in and block. He already is one of the best TE's in the PAC12 so for him to not be drafted at all would be a complete joke.
Colby Fleener is one of the top TEs along with Egnew of Mizzou, Ladarius Green of LA-Lafayette, and Davis Paulson of Oregon. As far as which one of those 4 goes first, it will probably depend on their work outs.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Its QB friendly with any QB running it. How often is he pressured? How often is a guy running open by 10 yards? What makes it SOOOO QB friendly? All of the "grey area" is removed to make decisions easier and there is ALOT of play-action pulling the safeties out of the middle. Again, I'm not trying to bash Luck. I think he'll be good...I'm just not buying the "next Peyton Manning" label just yet. I think this O has a habit of making QBs look really good. (Josh Johnson, Andrew Luck, and now to a lesser extent even Alex Smith). Thats not a bad thing BTW...as Greg Cosell said on the radio a few days ago....thats called COACHING.
The spread just allows QBs to get alot of attempts and yards and gets recievers in space so the numbers skyrocket.
Calling Stanford's offense QB Friendly is kind of a joke. I would like to hear from you what successful offense isn't QB friendly in college...And the QB Friendly label is used to typically describe spread offenses that make a QB look a lot better than he is because it inflates his statistics.
Harbaugh used a run-first, pro-oriented offense built around a great O-line and multiple TEs in motion. Not much has changed with his offense at 49ers (although I think we are still one TE short of what Harbaugh wants to do).
And if you think Luck is removed from making decisions, I think you are totally mistaken. Just because its play action doesn't mean he isn't making a decision.
If you watch Stanford enough, you'll see they have no problem opening up the passing game if their run game struggles, but they prefer to use passing game as the killshot and use running to control possession and wear down a team.
Finally, one major reason Luck hasn't opened up his passing game much is you have to look at college recruiting to understand. Stanford has an extremely hard time getting WRs to commit, so in terms of WR talent there isn't much there outside of Owusu. Alternatively, Harbaugh was able to get a s**t load of TEs to commit because other teams weren't as focused on recruiting that position.
[ Edited by SunDevilNiner79 on Oct 24, 2011 at 3:00 PM ]