Originally posted by SunDevilNiner79:
Well, I'm not going to spend all day looking up every single tourney. Without Kansas, Big 12 basketball isn't much of anything. I keep bringing up facts, you keep running away from them. Take UCLA and Kansas out of the equation, and the PAC still has a better basketball tradition.
And nice way to stereotype based on tourney brackets of co-workers down in Tuscon, LOL! I can't think of a mure stupid way to form an opinion of millions of fans.
Edit: And why can't you admit that UT is being greedy? If you did a poll of the entire nation and their opinion of UT and thier pursuit of their own network, proabbly 90% people would call it greed. No other school in a conference is trying to get their own network. So you should stop being a homer, and just admit it.
Sure they're being greedy, my point is anyone with the clout would do the same. I'm a fan and personally I wouldn't watch much of the network and don't get why someone gave them 300M, but you can't say with a straight face any other college would say no to that, much less turn around and give it back.
As far as my opinion of the PAC and their fans, use your head, that was one funny example. Point was a lived in the area for years and was around tons of you guys, you overrate your conference due to the inferiority complex of the "east coast bias" to cover up that most of your teams just aren't very good. And I'm not running from anything, you're cherry picking facts, I can do that too. In the last 5 years (really the best way to measure current relevance) in the tourney:
Big12 - 42-24 PAC10 - 23-18
Again the Big 12 is currently, and has been lately, the better conference. Not that I root for conferences because that's asinine, point was they were talking about leaving for an inferior (but much better run) conference from a pure athletics standpoint. And everyone should thank Texas for being so greedy because if they hadn't, they'd have gone to the PAC and ruined 2 conferences: 1 would disband and the other would have much less of a chance to win their own conference.