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Deron Williams traded to the Nets

Originally posted by JerryRice1848:
Quote:
Deron Williams Found Out He Was Traded By Watching SportsCenter


Salt Lake Tribune beat writer Brian Smith reports that former Utah Jazz point guard Deron Williams didn't learn he had been traded to New Jersey until he saw it on SportsCenter while in the training room.

Teammates say Williams was stunned by the deal and is not happy to be leaving Utah.

That fact that Jazz didn't even give him or his agent a courtesy call gives some weight to the theory floated by some on Twitter that trading him to the Nets (and not the more talented Knicks) was punishment for Williams' treatment of coach Jerry Sloan.

Of course, that doesn't explain why they would let Sloan go at all if they were willing to dump their point guard. More likely that the Jazz saw the draft picks dangled in front of their face and didn't bother to think about it.

Kinda hard to believe trading him to the Nets instead of the Knicks was punishment. I mean who in the hell could the Knicks possibly trade for him. They gave up everything for Melo.
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Anyone know of a decent trade scenario's of us (Jazz) getting rid of AK, and one of our now 3 PF's, for a SG? I don't know what to think of this trade quite yet. Get rid of derron for another PF, and a downgrade at PG. Draft picks I guess, but they are going to be middle of the pack picks.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4fh23rw

or

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4hcvje3
why the f**k is Kirlenko getting paid 18 mill ?

I keep hearing that the NBA is unfairly slanted in favor of large market teams, but maybe if teams like Utah & Orlando weren't grossly overpaying they'd have a better shot at winning titles.

Rashard Lewis = $20.5M in Washington
Michael Redd = $18.3M in Milwaukee
Andrei Kirilenko = $17.8M in Utah
Gilbert Arenas = $17.7M in Orlando
Vince Carter = $17.3M in Phoenix
Zach Randolph = $17.3M in Memphis
Kenyon Martin = $16M in Denver
My Sympathy = 0
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Anyone know of a decent trade scenario's of us (Jazz) getting rid of AK, and one of our now 3 PF's, for a SG? I don't know what to think of this trade quite yet. Get rid of derron for another PF, and a downgrade at PG. Draft picks I guess, but they are going to be middle of the pack picks.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4fh23rw

or

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4hcvje3
why the f**k is Kirlenko getting paid 18 mill ?

I keep hearing that the NBA is unfairly slanted in favor of large market teams, but maybe if teams like Utah & Orlando weren't grossly overpaying they'd have a better shot at winning titles.

Rashard Lewis = $20.5M in Washington
Michael Redd = $18.3M in Milwaukee
Andrei Kirilenko = $17.8M in Utah
Gilbert Arenas = $17.7M in Orlando
Vince Carter = $17.3M in Phoenix
Zach Randolph = $17.3M in Memphis
Kenyon Martin = $16M in Denver
My Sympathy = 0

Is he asian?
I guess I don't know a whole lot about Favors. I remember wanting us to get him in the draft but I haven't got to see too much of him in the NBA. From watching highlights and such he seems like a Jeremy Evans type player. He was the third overall pick, but what's this kids upside? What's his potential?
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Anyone know of a decent trade scenario's of us (Jazz) getting rid of AK, and one of our now 3 PF's, for a SG? I don't know what to think of this trade quite yet. Get rid of derron for another PF, and a downgrade at PG. Draft picks I guess, but they are going to be middle of the pack picks.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4fh23rw

or

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4hcvje3
why the f**k is Kirlenko getting paid 18 mill ?

I keep hearing that the NBA is unfairly slanted in favor of large market teams, but maybe if teams like Utah & Orlando weren't grossly overpaying they'd have a better shot at winning titles.

Rashard Lewis = $20.5M in Washington
Michael Redd = $18.3M in Milwaukee
Andrei Kirilenko = $17.8M in Utah
Gilbert Arenas = $17.7M in Orlando
Vince Carter = $17.3M in Phoenix
Zach Randolph = $17.3M in Memphis
Kenyon Martin = $16M in Denver
My Sympathy = 0

Someone needs to take Arenas' contract off our books as well.

Thankfully (for contracts-sake) we got rid of Rashard's
When does Williams contract expire? He will be out of NJ in a flash.
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Originally posted by Joecool:
When does Williams contract expire? He will be out of NJ in a flash.

I believe after next season. So summer of 2012.
im not as up on the NBA as i once was. from what i understand, Harris and Favors are a couple nice players to get in return. obviously i think the 1st round picks were what sold the deal, but can anyone give me a little more detail about the Nets players?

IIRC, wasnt Favors a high end lottery pick recently? and where does Harris rank among NBA PG's?
Originally posted by Niners99:
im not as up on the NBA as i once was. from what i understand, Harris and Favors are a couple nice players to get in return. obviously i think the 1st round picks were what sold the deal, but can anyone give me a little more detail about the Nets players?

IIRC, wasnt Favors a high end lottery pick recently? and where does Harris rank among NBA PG's?

Favors was the 3rd pick in this last year's draft. Talented but raw. But has legit PF size and won't be another Boozer/Millsap/Jefferson in terms of being an undersized PF that gets chewed up by big front lines.

Harris is a decent PG, probably somewhere in the 12-15 range in terms of the best PGs in the league.

The picks look very good as well.
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Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Anyone know of a decent trade scenario's of us (Jazz) getting rid of AK, and one of our now 3 PF's, for a SG? I don't know what to think of this trade quite yet. Get rid of derron for another PF, and a downgrade at PG. Draft picks I guess, but they are going to be middle of the pack picks.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4fh23rw

or

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4hcvje3
why the f**k is Kirlenko getting paid 18 mill ?

I keep hearing that the NBA is unfairly slanted in favor of large market teams, but maybe if teams like Utah & Orlando weren't grossly overpaying they'd have a better shot at winning titles.

Rashard Lewis = $20.5M in Washington
Michael Redd = $18.3M in Milwaukee
Andrei Kirilenko = $17.8M in Utah
Gilbert Arenas = $17.7M in Orlando
Vince Carter = $17.3M in Phoenix
Zach Randolph = $17.3M in Memphis
Kenyon Martin = $16M in Denver
My Sympathy = 0

Why even give that kind of money out in the first place? I don't get some the economics in the NBA.
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They're headed for a lockout ala the NFL.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Anyone know of a decent trade scenario's of us (Jazz) getting rid of AK, and one of our now 3 PF's, for a SG? I don't know what to think of this trade quite yet. Get rid of derron for another PF, and a downgrade at PG. Draft picks I guess, but they are going to be middle of the pack picks.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4fh23rw

or

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4hcvje3
why the f**k is Kirlenko getting paid 18 mill ?

I keep hearing that the NBA is unfairly slanted in favor of large market teams, but maybe if teams like Utah & Orlando weren't grossly overpaying they'd have a better shot at winning titles.

Rashard Lewis = $20.5M in Washington
Michael Redd = $18.3M in Milwaukee
Andrei Kirilenko = $17.8M in Utah
Gilbert Arenas = $17.7M in Orlando
Vince Carter = $17.3M in Phoenix
Zach Randolph = $17.3M in Memphis
Kenyon Martin = $16M in Denver
My Sympathy = 0

You honestly think these players would go to these small market teams if they didn't over pay? No.
Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Anyone know of a decent trade scenario's of us (Jazz) getting rid of AK, and one of our now 3 PF's, for a SG? I don't know what to think of this trade quite yet. Get rid of derron for another PF, and a downgrade at PG. Draft picks I guess, but they are going to be middle of the pack picks.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4fh23rw

or

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4hcvje3
why the f**k is Kirlenko getting paid 18 mill ?

I keep hearing that the NBA is unfairly slanted in favor of large market teams, but maybe if teams like Utah & Orlando weren't grossly overpaying they'd have a better shot at winning titles.

Rashard Lewis = $20.5M in Washington
Michael Redd = $18.3M in Milwaukee
Andrei Kirilenko = $17.8M in Utah
Gilbert Arenas = $17.7M in Orlando
Vince Carter = $17.3M in Phoenix
Zach Randolph = $17.3M in Memphis
Kenyon Martin = $16M in Denver
My Sympathy = 0

You honestly think these players would go to these small market teams if they didn't over pay? No.

Yes, yes they would. They aren't overpaid because a large-market team raised their price. It's not like there was a bidding war for Zach Randolph or Kenyon Martin.
Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Anyone know of a decent trade scenario's of us (Jazz) getting rid of AK, and one of our now 3 PF's, for a SG? I don't know what to think of this trade quite yet. Get rid of derron for another PF, and a downgrade at PG. Draft picks I guess, but they are going to be middle of the pack picks.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4fh23rw

or

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4hcvje3
why the f**k is Kirlenko getting paid 18 mill ?

I keep hearing that the NBA is unfairly slanted in favor of large market teams, but maybe if teams like Utah & Orlando weren't grossly overpaying they'd have a better shot at winning titles.

Rashard Lewis = $20.5M in Washington
Michael Redd = $18.3M in Milwaukee
Andrei Kirilenko = $17.8M in Utah
Gilbert Arenas = $17.7M in Orlando
Vince Carter = $17.3M in Phoenix
Zach Randolph = $17.3M in Memphis
Kenyon Martin = $16M in Denver
My Sympathy = 0

You honestly think these players would go to these small market teams if they didn't over pay? No.

Players are gonna go where the money is, and that's dictated by where the cap space is. There are maybe 3-4 teams in a normal year that have the cap space to get things done. If the choice is between giving $20M to Rashard Lewis and keeping the money and not getting a player....keep the money. You never ever see teams like San Antonio or Oklahoma City participating in this kind of stupidity, despite their market size.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by niners94:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Originally posted by TheGoldenState:
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Anyone know of a decent trade scenario's of us (Jazz) getting rid of AK, and one of our now 3 PF's, for a SG? I don't know what to think of this trade quite yet. Get rid of derron for another PF, and a downgrade at PG. Draft picks I guess, but they are going to be middle of the pack picks.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4fh23rw

or

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4hcvje3
why the f**k is Kirlenko getting paid 18 mill ?

I keep hearing that the NBA is unfairly slanted in favor of large market teams, but maybe if teams like Utah & Orlando weren't grossly overpaying they'd have a better shot at winning titles.

Rashard Lewis = $20.5M in Washington
Michael Redd = $18.3M in Milwaukee
Andrei Kirilenko = $17.8M in Utah
Gilbert Arenas = $17.7M in Orlando
Vince Carter = $17.3M in Phoenix
Zach Randolph = $17.3M in Memphis
Kenyon Martin = $16M in Denver
My Sympathy = 0

You honestly think these players would go to these small market teams if they didn't over pay? No.

Players are gonna go where the money is, and that's dictated by where the cap space is. There are maybe 3-4 teams in a normal year that have the cap space to get things done. If the choice is between giving $20M to Rashard Lewis and keeping the money and not getting a player....keep the money. You never ever see teams like San Antonio or Oklahoma City participating in this kind of stupidity, despite their market size.

How many of these cases are carried because the contract may be expiring?