Originally posted by real9erfan:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Seems like Harbaugh is the Andy Reid of the Eagles. 3years in the NFL. 3 NFCCG games and trip to the SB. That's just awesome in terms of winning. But in the end you are judge by SB too and there isn't one yet.
Andy Reid's first 3 years included 2 playoff appearances (1 NFC championship game) & didn't win more then 11 games in a season. Oh and he didn't get to a Superbowl till his 6th year as HC.
Exactly. And Andy Reid IS a good coach. It's just very difficult to win a Super Bowl in this league. Marv Levy appeared in 4 straight SBs and couldn't win a single one. Does that mean he was no good? How long did it take Bill Cowher to finally win a SB. Even the genius Bill Belichick has not been able to win a SB since 2004. Harbaugh is a great coach and has been putting us in position to win it all every year since he's been here. At that level, though, the competition is so tough that games can go either way, and we've just caught some bad breaks. That's why I don't think you should use SB wins as the only measuring stick by which to judge a coach.
Well I disagree. I think Andy Reid is an extremely good coach. He placed 1st or 2nd in the division 10 out of 14 times (6 first place finishes), in what was an incredibly tough NFC East. He had 4 Conference Championship losses and 1 Superbowl loss. Reid's fatal flaw was his conservatism. He rarely went for fourth downs and didn't get aggressive when he needed to. That's what I remember of Reid. Very good coach. Extremely good coach. Not great though. Too conservative. Bill Belichick is great. Not only did he have great strategy and vision, he took chances in big situations and executed. Bill Cowher was also an extremely good coach and has a record similar to Reid (first or 2nd in division 10/15 times, 8 division titles, 4 championship losses, 1SB loss, 1SB win), but I think his fatal flaw was the offense. The Steelers perennially had a top defense, but they had no offense and had Neil O'Donnell, Kordell Stewart, & Tommy Maddox as the starting QB's for a decade until Ben Roethlisberger took them over the top. Despite Cowher winning one Super Bowl, I think he was just an extremely good coach. Not great. The offense/QB was the fatal flaw and it was never addressed until a decade later. I think Harbaugh is an extremely good coach, but his fatal flaw is the Roman/Chryst pass offense. As long as the fatal flaw is there, Harbaugh is more likely to be a Reid/Cowher than Bill Walsh/Belichick/Parcells/J. Johnson etc. You never know though.. Harbaugh might get lucky. He finally may get another chance at a Superbowl and finally get a TD on that fade route in the end zone. Great coaches may get lucky once in a while, but they don't rely on it. There's a difference.
[ Edited by Jd925 on Jan 23, 2014 at 8:57 PM ]