Cliff Lee signs with the Philadelphia Phillies

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by ninerlifer:
I would say the only way Hamels and Sanchez would be comparable, is for the last 2-3 years you put Hamels on the Giants, and Sanchez on the Phils. I think their Ws and Ls and maybe ERA would mirror each other in actuality.

but that is it.

Maybe but Hamels does pitch in a hitters friendly park while Sanchez pitches in a pretty friendly pitchers park. Listen, I think Sanchez is a very good lefty. I just dont think there is anyway he is in Cole's class.

Originally posted by ninerlifer:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by ninerlifer:
I would say the only way Hamels and Sanchez would be comparable, is for the last 2-3 years you put Hamels on the Giants, and Sanchez on the Phils. I think their Ws and Ls and maybe ERA would mirror each other in actuality.

but that is it.

Maybe but Hamels does pitch in a hitters friendly park while Sanchez pitches in a pretty friendly pitchers park. Listen, I think Sanchez is a very good lefty. I just dont think there is anyway he is in Cole's class.

Parks aside, I think you give Sanchez the Phillies lineup they had the last few years, and Cole the Giants lineup, the wins and losses would be different for both.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by ninerlifer:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by ninerlifer:
I would say the only way Hamels and Sanchez would be comparable, is for the last 2-3 years you put Hamels on the Giants, and Sanchez on the Phils. I think their Ws and Ls and maybe ERA would mirror each other in actuality.

but that is it.

Maybe but Hamels does pitch in a hitters friendly park while Sanchez pitches in a pretty friendly pitchers park. Listen, I think Sanchez is a very good lefty. I just dont think there is anyway he is in Cole's class.

Parks aside, I think you give Sanchez the Phillies lineup they had the last few years, and Cole the Giants lineup, the wins and losses would be different for both.

No question on the W-L. Agree with that.

Originally posted by ninerlifer:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by ninerlifer:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by ninerlifer:
I would say the only way Hamels and Sanchez would be comparable, is for the last 2-3 years you put Hamels on the Giants, and Sanchez on the Phils. I think their Ws and Ls and maybe ERA would mirror each other in actuality.

but that is it.

Maybe but Hamels does pitch in a hitters friendly park while Sanchez pitches in a pretty friendly pitchers park. Listen, I think Sanchez is a very good lefty. I just dont think there is anyway he is in Cole's class.

Parks aside, I think you give Sanchez the Phillies lineup they had the last few years, and Cole the Giants lineup, the wins and losses would be different for both.

No question on the W-L. Agree with that.

Originally posted by PTulini:

Originally posted by ninerlifer:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by ninerlifer:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by ninerlifer:
I would say the only way Hamels and Sanchez would be comparable, is for the last 2-3 years you put Hamels on the Giants, and Sanchez on the Phils. I think their Ws and Ls and maybe ERA would mirror each other in actuality.

but that is it.

Maybe but Hamels does pitch in a hitters friendly park while Sanchez pitches in a pretty friendly pitchers park. Listen, I think Sanchez is a very good lefty. I just dont think there is anyway he is in Cole's class.

Parks aside, I think you give Sanchez the Phillies lineup they had the last few years, and Cole the Giants lineup, the wins and losses would be different for both.

No question on the W-L. Agree with that.

Cole Hamels is a World Series MVP. Just saying...

Originally posted by PTulini:

Originally posted by maximill15:

Originally posted by PTulini:

Cliiff?

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
If I was the Giants GM and Phillies offer Hamels for Sanchez to me - I would fly Sanchez in my private jet the second I get off the phone, drop his ass in PA and bring Hamels to SF the same day. Then call Phillies GM and laugh at him for 5 minutes.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
If I was the Giants GM and Phillies offer Hamels for Sanchez to me - I would fly Sanchez in my private jet the second I get off the phone, drop his ass in PA and bring Hamels to SF the same day. Then call Phillies GM and laugh at him for 5 minutes.

NICE.

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
If I was the Giants GM and Phillies offer Hamels for Sanchez to me - I would fly Sanchez in my private jet the second I get off the phone, drop his ass in PA and bring Hamels to SF the same day. Then call Phillies GM and laugh at him for 5 minutes.

NICE.

Originally posted by jrg:
f**k any team in the NL besides the Cardinals

Originally posted by skeetskeet:

Originally posted by Ninerjohn:

Originally posted by 49ersMyLife:
If I was the Giants GM and Phillies offer Hamels for Sanchez to me - I would fly Sanchez in my private jet the second I get off the phone, drop his ass in PA and bring Hamels to SF the same day. Then call Phillies GM and laugh at him for 5 minutes.

NICE.

Sanchez gets his wildness under control Ala Randy Johnson you are looking at a perennial CY young guy. His stuff is better than hamels. He's nastier. He's got NO HIT STUFF. With his wildness he is on the same level as Sanchez. Just his mental aspect is holding him back but dudes gotten much better EVERY year