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Two words that describe MMA - Vale Tudo.
Two words that describes boxing - One-dimensional
I seem to recall Ray Mercer knocking out Tim Sylvia
I seem to recall, Couture shooting in and Toney not having a chance in hell. How about example #2, Ray Mercer getting owned by one of the lowest level MMA fighters in Kimbo Slice.
How about Vitor Belfort crossing over and making his Pro debut in Boxing.
Toney and Mercer only fight to collect a paycheck. You can just look at their bodies and see that they're not taking these fights too seriously anymore. If anything they're probally loving these MMA fights because they're over with an under a 1 minute any way you look at it.
They land that punch or they get choked out.
As for Victor Belfort he fought one boxing match against a complete bum. That's the only known fight from his competition. Wow, what a victory!!!!!!!!
Well you list the only time a MMA fighter has actually been KO'd, but Vitor Belforts one victory is not satisfiable??
Tim Sylvia is one of the worst MMA fighters I've ever seen, he was overrated from the start.
How many credible boxers have actually fought MMA? Not a large sample number right there.
Tim Sylvia is a former champ. Vincent Belfort fought a bum off the street with 0 professional fights. I think there's a difference there.
How does it make it different just cause Tim Sylvia was an ex-champ. Its still boxing vs. MMA and MMA cross over to boxing anyway you slice it. Tim Sylvia chose to stand and he got caught, credit Mercer for that. But, that's just the way Sylvia is, he'll stand and strike with anyone. And that should answer one of the questions, that if a MMA fighter chose to stand with a boxer. But that's also one of Sylvia's weaknesses, he cannot work the inside to save his life and leaves himself open, hence the Mercer KO.
So far its still 3-1, MMA.
The point is one was credible victory, and the other wasn't. Why should I care that Vincent Belfort boxed a bum off the street and won? That's not proving anything.
What does it tell you when a old washed up boxer wants to go MMA he's main eventing, but when a MMA fighter makes the switch he starts from the bottom?
It says that boxing has too many organizations and does a poor job of promotion. Even if that's not it, then maybe it's been around longer, it's more established, etc. Those are reasons why a MMA guy would have to start at the bottom, not because boxing is a better judge of fighting skills. Sure, boxers are better at boxing than MMA guys. Just like 3 point contest winners are better 3 point shooters than everyone else. It doesn't make them better basketball players, just because they're experts at one aspect of scoring. There's little doubt that a boxer would likely win a boxing match more often than not over an MMA guy. But in a fight, I'd take the MMA guy most of the time.
And you guys forgot Yves Edwards.