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MMA vs Boxing question

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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Two words that describe MMA - Vale Tudo.

Two words that describes boxing - One-dimensional

James Toney!!!

I seem to recall Ray Mercer knocking out Tim Sylvia

I seem to recall, Couture shooting in and Toney not having a chance in hell. How about example #2, Ray Mercer getting owned by one of the lowest level MMA fighters in Kimbo Slice.

How about Vitor Belfort crossing over and making his Pro debut in Boxing.

MMA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boxing
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Two words that describe MMA - Vale Tudo.

Two words that describes boxing - One-dimensional

James Toney!!!

I seem to recall Ray Mercer knocking out Tim Sylvia

I seem to recall, Couture shooting in and Toney not having a chance in hell. How about example #2, Ray Mercer getting owned by one of the lowest level MMA fighters in Kimbo Slice.

How about Vitor Belfort crossing over and making his Pro debut in Boxing.

MMA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boxing

Toney and Mercer only fight to collect a paycheck. You can just look at their bodies and see that they're not taking these fights too seriously anymore. If anything they're probally loving these MMA fights because they're over with an under a 1 minute any way you look at it.

They land that punch or they get choked out.

As for Victor Belfort he fought one boxing match against a complete bum. That's the only known fight from his competition. Wow, what a victory!!!!!!!!
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Sep 5, 2010 at 10:09 AM ]
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The answer to all your questions:

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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Two words that describe MMA - Vale Tudo.

Two words that describes boxing - One-dimensional

James Toney!!!

I seem to recall Ray Mercer knocking out Tim Sylvia

I seem to recall, Couture shooting in and Toney not having a chance in hell. How about example #2, Ray Mercer getting owned by one of the lowest level MMA fighters in Kimbo Slice.

How about Vitor Belfort crossing over and making his Pro debut in Boxing.

MMA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boxing

Toney and Mercer only fight to collect a paycheck. You can just look at their bodies and see that they're not taking these fights too seriously anymore. If anything they're probally loving these MMA fights because they're over with an under a 1 minute any way you look at it.

They land that punch or they get choked out.

As for Victor Belfort he fought one boxing match against a complete bum. That's the only known fight from his competition. Wow, what a victory!!!!!!!!

Well you list the only time a MMA fighter has actually been KO'd, but Vitor Belforts one victory is not satisfiable??

Tim Sylvia is one of the worst MMA fighters I've ever seen, he was overrated from the start.
It doesn't matter, since film star Bruce Lee could have beaten them all.

Actors FTW!
Who wins? A one boxer with only one arm, or an MMA fighter with only one leg?
dry humping FTW
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Originally posted by HaiGuise:
Who wins? A one boxer with only one arm, or an MMA fighter with only one leg?

An MMA fighter. He still has one leg to shoot in and both arms to take down for a double. He would then pass guard easily, and could still pull off a kimura, anaconda choke or even a crucifix for the finish.
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Two words that describe MMA - Vale Tudo.

Two words that describes boxing - One-dimensional

James Toney!!!

I seem to recall Ray Mercer knocking out Tim Sylvia

I seem to recall, Couture shooting in and Toney not having a chance in hell. How about example #2, Ray Mercer getting owned by one of the lowest level MMA fighters in Kimbo Slice.

How about Vitor Belfort crossing over and making his Pro debut in Boxing.

MMA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boxing

Toney and Mercer only fight to collect a paycheck. You can just look at their bodies and see that they're not taking these fights too seriously anymore. If anything they're probally loving these MMA fights because they're over with an under a 1 minute any way you look at it.

They land that punch or they get choked out.

As for Victor Belfort he fought one boxing match against a complete bum. That's the only known fight from his competition. Wow, what a victory!!!!!!!!

Well you list the only time a MMA fighter has actually been KO'd, but Vitor Belforts one victory is not satisfiable??

Tim Sylvia is one of the worst MMA fighters I've ever seen, he was overrated from the start.

How many credible boxers have actually fought MMA? Not a large sample number right there.

Tim Sylvia is a former champ. Vincent Belfort fought a bum off the street with 0 professional fights. I think there's a difference there.
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Two words that describe MMA - Vale Tudo.

Two words that describes boxing - One-dimensional

James Toney!!!

I seem to recall Ray Mercer knocking out Tim Sylvia

I seem to recall, Couture shooting in and Toney not having a chance in hell. How about example #2, Ray Mercer getting owned by one of the lowest level MMA fighters in Kimbo Slice.

How about Vitor Belfort crossing over and making his Pro debut in Boxing.

MMA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boxing

Toney and Mercer only fight to collect a paycheck. You can just look at their bodies and see that they're not taking these fights too seriously anymore. If anything they're probally loving these MMA fights because they're over with an under a 1 minute any way you look at it.

They land that punch or they get choked out.

As for Victor Belfort he fought one boxing match against a complete bum. That's the only known fight from his competition. Wow, what a victory!!!!!!!!

Well you list the only time a MMA fighter has actually been KO'd, but Vitor Belforts one victory is not satisfiable??

Tim Sylvia is one of the worst MMA fighters I've ever seen, he was overrated from the start.

How many credible boxers have actually fought MMA? Not a large sample number right there.

Tim Sylvia is a former champ. Vincent Belfort fought a bum off the street with 0 professional fights. I think there's a difference there.

How does it make it different just cause Tim Sylvia was an ex-champ. Its still boxing vs. MMA and MMA cross over to boxing anyway you slice it. Tim Sylvia chose to stand and he got caught, credit Mercer for that. But, that's just the way Sylvia is, he'll stand and strike with anyone. And that should answer one of the questions, that if a MMA fighter chose to stand with a boxer. But that's also one of Sylvia's weaknesses, he cannot work the inside to save his life and leaves himself open, hence the Mercer KO.

So far its still 3-1, MMA.
[ Edited by Kolohe on Sep 5, 2010 at 11:04 AM ]
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Two words that describe MMA - Vale Tudo.

Two words that describes boxing - One-dimensional

James Toney!!!

I seem to recall Ray Mercer knocking out Tim Sylvia

I seem to recall, Couture shooting in and Toney not having a chance in hell. How about example #2, Ray Mercer getting owned by one of the lowest level MMA fighters in Kimbo Slice.

How about Vitor Belfort crossing over and making his Pro debut in Boxing.

MMA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boxing

Toney and Mercer only fight to collect a paycheck. You can just look at their bodies and see that they're not taking these fights too seriously anymore. If anything they're probally loving these MMA fights because they're over with an under a 1 minute any way you look at it.

They land that punch or they get choked out.

As for Victor Belfort he fought one boxing match against a complete bum. That's the only known fight from his competition. Wow, what a victory!!!!!!!!

Well you list the only time a MMA fighter has actually been KO'd, but Vitor Belforts one victory is not satisfiable??

Tim Sylvia is one of the worst MMA fighters I've ever seen, he was overrated from the start.

How many credible boxers have actually fought MMA? Not a large sample number right there.

Tim Sylvia is a former champ. Vincent Belfort fought a bum off the street with 0 professional fights. I think there's a difference there.

How does it make it different just cause Tim Sylvia was an ex-champ. Its still boxing vs. MMA and MMA cross over to boxing anyway you slice it. Tim Sylvia chose to stand and he got caught, credit Mercer for that. But, that's just the way Sylvia is, he'll stand and strike with anyone. And that should answer one of the questions, that if a MMA fighter chose to stand with a boxer. But that's also one of Sylvia's weaknesses, he cannot work the inside to save his life and leaves himself open, hence the Mercer KO.

So far its still 3-1, MMA.

The point is one was credible victory, and the other wasn't. Why should I care that Vincent Belfort boxed a bum off the street and won? That's not proving anything.

What does it tell you when a old washed up boxer wants to go MMA he's main eventing, but when a MMA fighter makes the switch he starts from the bottom?
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Sep 5, 2010 at 11:13 AM ]
MMA fighters have no technique with their hands.

They're sloppy.

All a boxer needs to know is how to sprawl, and that's it.

DOn't bring up James Toney. He obviously sold out , and lost a number of boxing matches after being tested positive for steriods.

Dude looks like he has asthma.

Put Pacquio in the ring and you'll see someone get KO'ed. Not dry humped and ''tap.''

In a street fight, though, headbutts, and kicks to the nuts are legal.
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Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Two words that describe MMA - Vale Tudo.

Two words that describes boxing - One-dimensional

James Toney!!!

I seem to recall Ray Mercer knocking out Tim Sylvia

I seem to recall, Couture shooting in and Toney not having a chance in hell. How about example #2, Ray Mercer getting owned by one of the lowest level MMA fighters in Kimbo Slice.

How about Vitor Belfort crossing over and making his Pro debut in Boxing.

MMA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Boxing

Toney and Mercer only fight to collect a paycheck. You can just look at their bodies and see that they're not taking these fights too seriously anymore. If anything they're probally loving these MMA fights because they're over with an under a 1 minute any way you look at it.

They land that punch or they get choked out.

As for Victor Belfort he fought one boxing match against a complete bum. That's the only known fight from his competition. Wow, what a victory!!!!!!!!

Well you list the only time a MMA fighter has actually been KO'd, but Vitor Belforts one victory is not satisfiable??

Tim Sylvia is one of the worst MMA fighters I've ever seen, he was overrated from the start.

How many credible boxers have actually fought MMA? Not a large sample number right there.

Tim Sylvia is a former champ. Vincent Belfort fought a bum off the street with 0 professional fights. I think there's a difference there.

How does it make it different just cause Tim Sylvia was an ex-champ. Its still boxing vs. MMA and MMA cross over to boxing anyway you slice it. Tim Sylvia chose to stand and he got caught, credit Mercer for that. But, that's just the way Sylvia is, he'll stand and strike with anyone. And that should answer one of the questions, that if a MMA fighter chose to stand with a boxer. But that's also one of Sylvia's weaknesses, he cannot work the inside to save his life and leaves himself open, hence the Mercer KO.

So far its still 3-1, MMA.

The point is one was credible victory, and the other wasn't. Why should I care that Vincent Belfort boxed a bum off the street and won? That's not proving anything.

What does it tell you when a old washed up boxer wants to go MMA he's main eventing, but when a MMA fighter makes the switch he starts from the bottom?

Again, your not excepting for what it is.

VITOR debuted where he was given, don't you think if he had a real money fight he would've took it?? He simply played the cards he was dealt, how do you fault him for that?? It was still boxing in the end. Ask Vitor if he would box the best, and I'm sure he wouldn't tun it down. Shoot Anderson Silva wanted/wants to box Roy Jones Jr., ask the promoters why that doesn't happen??

But in the end, what exactly is your argument. Is it that an MMA fighter got KO by a boxer in the Octagon, no doubt I won't argue that it happened. Or is that, Boxing will always beat MMA fighters, obviously, you have no argument there. For one, its still 3-1 MMA over boxing. Two, how many boxers have transitioned over to MMA, none that will give us a clear cut answer. Again, I'm getting mixed signals on your argument, or is it that you just hate to lose arguments??
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:
MMA fighters have no technique with their hands.

They're sloppy.

All a boxer needs to know is how to sprawl, and that's it.

DOn't bring up James Toney. He obviously sold out , and lost a number of boxing matches after being tested positive for steriods.

Dude looks like he has asthma.

Put Pacquio in the ring and you'll see someone get KO'ed. Not dry humped and ''tap.''

In a street fight, though, headbutts, and kicks to the nuts are legal.

LOL now we can't bring up James Toney. Again, it was Toney who initiated a fight into MMA, MMA did not call him out. It was Mayweather who called out MMA, MMA did not call him out. Boxing talks so much smack, yet they fail to live up to the hype. Paciquao would get own in the Octagon, even if he learns to sprawl.....inside sweeps all the way. I'd like to see him defend a Osoto gari.