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Official 2010 Oakland A's Thread
Sep 8, 2010 at 1:35 PM
- AllTimeGreat
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Sep 8, 2010 at 2:17 PM
- Ninerjohn
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Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
I don't give a s**t about his home/away splits. He's carrying the Rockies on his back. He is a star. Matt Holliday had big time home/away splits as well and although he's not quite as good, he's still proven to be an elite player away from Coors. Some of the #'s it would come down to a bit of fluke/chance as well. If Coors is making him into a star and he wouldn't be that great elsewhere than how come only Tulowitzki is approaching his numbers?
The guy is a star, face of the franchise type, no doubt about it. Yeah he wouldn't be hitting .340 in the AL and at the Coliseum but he'd still be a legit middle of the order hitter that we traded away along with a very valuable asset in Street.
We would be in first place right now if Gonzalez was on our team.
Taylor and Carter are good but flawed players, while stars aren't easy to come by and we got robbed of ours. We're going to be stuck in mediocrity/fringe playoff team unless we can develop a star out of nowhere and really fast or we trade one of our great pitchers to try and get one.
It really must be painful to watch CarGO and know that Beane let him go. He is one of the top 5 players in all of baseball right now. Beane gets a lot of credit most of the time but he has made a couple of awful trades thats for sure.
Beane used to be awesome but I'm really ready for him to go. We're suffering from the same problem as you guys had in the past (not quite so much this year), great at developing pitching, can't develop a stud hitter and in our case trade away the one's who are poised to become one.
Yep. Pretty much the same. Posey is the only decent hitter we have drafted and developed in years. The thing about the splits is a joke too. CarGo is a stud . He could be a 30-30 player in virtually any park. Sure, his numbers are better at Coors. Anyone's would be. Right now he is a top 3 OF for sure in all of baseball and quite possibly a top 3 everyday player. I just dont see how any decent GM could have ever traded a guy like this for a 1 year rental like Holiday.
Sep 8, 2010 at 4:04 PM
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Gonzalez would not be hitting 30 HRs in every other park like he is playing half his games at COL. 25 of his 32 HRs are at at Coors this season. 42 K/22 BB at home compared to a 75 K/9 BB on the road.
Same thing happened last year where Gonzalez had about a .130 point difference between home and road splits.
A .500 OPS difference between their home and road #s this season? Tell me of any other top offensive player in the bigs that has that huge of a home/road splits.
Alright, lets compared Gonzalez to the other top MVP candidates this season...
Gonzalez(COL)-.394/.441/.801 at home and .288/.310/.450 on the road.
Cabrera(DET)-.332/.439/.585 at home and .333/.417/.663 on the road.
Hamilton(TEX)-.395/.446/.759 at home and .327/.383/.512 on the road.
Pujols(STL)-.342/.432/.626 at home and .278/.373/.541 on the road.
Votto(CIN)-.305/.402/.571 at home and .336/.440/.612 on the road.
Mauer(MIN)-.320/.411/.416 at home and .331/.395/.518 on the road.
Cano(NYY)-.310/.373/.556 at home and .327/.389/.532 on the road.
Almost every player other than Hamilton don't huge a huge difference between their offensive #s compared to home than on the road. Okay Pujols too but we've seen over the past decade that the guy is a MONSTER anywhere with a OPS difference of only 20 points from home/road.
Again Gonzalez would be a very good player, probably all star level player, if he played on most other teams but he'd be nowhere near the triple crown factor he is now with COL without playing half his games 5200 ft above the sea.
Same thing happened last year where Gonzalez had about a .130 point difference between home and road splits.
A .500 OPS difference between their home and road #s this season? Tell me of any other top offensive player in the bigs that has that huge of a home/road splits.
Alright, lets compared Gonzalez to the other top MVP candidates this season...
Gonzalez(COL)-.394/.441/.801 at home and .288/.310/.450 on the road.
Cabrera(DET)-.332/.439/.585 at home and .333/.417/.663 on the road.
Hamilton(TEX)-.395/.446/.759 at home and .327/.383/.512 on the road.
Pujols(STL)-.342/.432/.626 at home and .278/.373/.541 on the road.
Votto(CIN)-.305/.402/.571 at home and .336/.440/.612 on the road.
Mauer(MIN)-.320/.411/.416 at home and .331/.395/.518 on the road.
Cano(NYY)-.310/.373/.556 at home and .327/.389/.532 on the road.
Almost every player other than Hamilton don't huge a huge difference between their offensive #s compared to home than on the road. Okay Pujols too but we've seen over the past decade that the guy is a MONSTER anywhere with a OPS difference of only 20 points from home/road.
Again Gonzalez would be a very good player, probably all star level player, if he played on most other teams but he'd be nowhere near the triple crown factor he is now with COL without playing half his games 5200 ft above the sea.
Sep 8, 2010 at 4:10 PM
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Originally posted by ninerpride:
Gonzalez would not be hitting 30 HRs in every other park like he is playing half his games at COL. 25 of his 32 HRs are at at Coors this season. 42 K/22 BB at home compared to a 75 K/9 BB on the road.
Same thing happened last year where Gonzalez had about a .130 point difference between home and road splits.
A .500 OPS difference between their home and road #s this season? Tell me of any other top offensive player in the bigs that has that huge of a home/road splits.
Alright, lets compared Gonzalez to the other top MVP candidates this season...
Gonzalez(COL)-.394/.441/.801 at home and .288/.310/.450 on the road.
Cabrera(DET)-.332/.439/.585 at home and .333/.417/.663 on the road.
Hamilton(TEX)-.395/.446/.759 at home and .327/.383/.512 on the road.
Pujols(STL)-.342/.432/.626 at home and .278/.373/.541 on the road.
Votto(CIN)-.305/.402/.571 at home and .336/.440/.612 on the road.
Mauer(MIN)-.320/.411/.416 at home and .331/.395/.518 on the road.
Cano(NYY)-.310/.373/.556 at home and .327/.389/.532 on the road.
Almost every player other than Hamilton don't huge a huge difference between their offensive #s compared to home than on the road. Okay Pujols too but we've seen over the past decade that the guy is a MONSTER anywhere with a OPS difference of only 20 points from home/road.
Again Gonzalez would be a very good player, probably all star level player, if he played on most other teams but he'd be nowhere near the triple crown factor he is now with COL without playing half his games 5200 ft above the sea.
Wow you went though a lot of work there. I can keep it very simple. Beane is an idiot for trading Carlos Gonzalez for a 1 year rental of Matt Holiday. See.. simple, consise, and to the point.
Sep 8, 2010 at 4:13 PM
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Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:Originally posted by Ninerjohn:Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
I don't give a s**t about his home/away splits. He's carrying the Rockies on his back. He is a star. Matt Holliday had big time home/away splits as well and although he's not quite as good, he's still proven to be an elite player away from Coors. Some of the #'s it would come down to a bit of fluke/chance as well. If Coors is making him into a star and he wouldn't be that great elsewhere than how come only Tulowitzki is approaching his numbers?
The guy is a star, face of the franchise type, no doubt about it. Yeah he wouldn't be hitting .340 in the AL and at the Coliseum but he'd still be a legit middle of the order hitter that we traded away along with a very valuable asset in Street.
We would be in first place right now if Gonzalez was on our team.
Taylor and Carter are good but flawed players, while stars aren't easy to come by and we got robbed of ours. We're going to be stuck in mediocrity/fringe playoff team unless we can develop a star out of nowhere and really fast or we trade one of our great pitchers to try and get one.
It really must be painful to watch CarGO and know that Beane let him go. He is one of the top 5 players in all of baseball right now. Beane gets a lot of credit most of the time but he has made a couple of awful trades thats for sure.
Beane used to be awesome but I'm really ready for him to go. We're suffering from the same problem as you guys had in the past (not quite so much this year), great at developing pitching, can't develop a stud hitter and in our case trade away the one's who are poised to become one.
Yep. Pretty much the same. Posey is the only decent hitter we have drafted and developed in years. The thing about the splits is a joke too. CarGo is a stud . He could be a 30-30 player in virtually any park. Sure, his numbers are better at Coors. Anyone's would be. Right now he is a top 3 OF for sure in all of baseball and quite possibly a top 3 everyday player. I just dont see how any decent GM could have ever traded a guy like this for a 1 year rental like Holiday.
I thought Posey was the best player in the draft and I think you guys got lucky that he fell to the 5th pick.
And about Gonzalez: I understand the "Coors phenomena" but is it really logical to think that Coors Field itself is responsible for a .500 point difference in OPS?
Maybe he'll only hit .310-30 instead of .340-40 but either way that's still star caliber numbers.
Sep 8, 2010 at 4:18 PM
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Agreed. I've said all along that I think it was a huge mistake to have dealt Gonzalez in that Holliday deal knowing Holliday was a one year rental and knowing 09 wasn't a season the A's seriously were gonna contend with basically a rookie/inexperienced rotation with Braden, Cahill, Anderson, Duke as your top four starters. Two being rookies and the other two not having even pitched a full year as a starter.
What I'm saying is that all this complaining that Gonzalez would be a SUPERSTAR triple crown guy threat had he stayed with the A's is nonsense. Good player, again all star talent as we A's fans his five tool potential his half season in 08 with the A's, but not even close to putting up the #s he's had in COL had he stayed these past 1 3/4 seasons with the A's playing at the coliseum which is as 180 degrees opposite of hitter's park compared to Coors.
Gonzalez with the A's and at the coliseum would probably be a .290/.350/.450 25 HR/100 RBI type hitter here. Again all star type talent but not the monster he becomes when he plays half his games on top of a mountain where his weaknesses aren't as exposed as they were if he played here in the bay area, near sea level and dealing with the marine layer.
What I'm saying is that all this complaining that Gonzalez would be a SUPERSTAR triple crown guy threat had he stayed with the A's is nonsense. Good player, again all star talent as we A's fans his five tool potential his half season in 08 with the A's, but not even close to putting up the #s he's had in COL had he stayed these past 1 3/4 seasons with the A's playing at the coliseum which is as 180 degrees opposite of hitter's park compared to Coors.
Gonzalez with the A's and at the coliseum would probably be a .290/.350/.450 25 HR/100 RBI type hitter here. Again all star type talent but not the monster he becomes when he plays half his games on top of a mountain where his weaknesses aren't as exposed as they were if he played here in the bay area, near sea level and dealing with the marine layer.
Sep 8, 2010 at 4:40 PM
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Being reported by espn and yahoo over the past 24 hours that the A's and SJ EQs have hired the architect/design firm 360 to design the potential venues for both teams.
360 also helped designed the new NYG/NYJ new football venue.
Don't know why it was reported, I think it was pretty much known that 360 which goes all the way back to the coliseum north plan is the design firm that Wolff has chosen.
Anybody who could do a little google search could've saw the pics that have been released over the years. Why it's made "public" now, who knows. Maybe Wolff knows something we fans don't know and there this is just another positive sign that the two venues are a close to a go ahead.
Although I read that the opening season for Cisco Field could be as far down as 2015? 2015? That's another 4 years meaning we won't see any dirt shoveling until at the earliest mid 2012 as it usually takes a good 2.5 years to build a park if you compare it to the time frame of the other 25+ newer parks built in the past two decades. Telling me it's gonna take at least a year after SJ voters most likely approve of the project next spring to get anything done physically?
360 also helped designed the new NYG/NYJ new football venue.
Don't know why it was reported, I think it was pretty much known that 360 which goes all the way back to the coliseum north plan is the design firm that Wolff has chosen.
Anybody who could do a little google search could've saw the pics that have been released over the years. Why it's made "public" now, who knows. Maybe Wolff knows something we fans don't know and there this is just another positive sign that the two venues are a close to a go ahead.
Although I read that the opening season for Cisco Field could be as far down as 2015? 2015? That's another 4 years meaning we won't see any dirt shoveling until at the earliest mid 2012 as it usually takes a good 2.5 years to build a park if you compare it to the time frame of the other 25+ newer parks built in the past two decades. Telling me it's gonna take at least a year after SJ voters most likely approve of the project next spring to get anything done physically?
Sep 8, 2010 at 4:53 PM
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Originally posted by ninerpride:
Agreed. I've said all along that I think it was a huge mistake to have dealt Gonzalez in that Holliday deal knowing Holliday was a one year rental and knowing 09 wasn't a season the A's seriously were gonna contend with basically a rookie/inexperienced rotation with Braden, Cahill, Anderson, Duke as your top four starters. Two being rookies and the other two not having even pitched a full year as a starter.
What I'm saying is that all this complaining that Gonzalez would be a SUPERSTAR triple crown guy threat had he stayed with the A's is nonsense. Good player, again all star talent as we A's fans his five tool potential his half season in 08 with the A's, but not even close to putting up the #s he's had in COL had he stayed these past 1 3/4 seasons with the A's playing at the coliseum which is as 180 degrees opposite of hitter's park compared to Coors.
Gonzalez with the A's and at the coliseum would probably be a .290/.350/.450 25 HR/100 RBI type hitter here. Again all star type talent but not the monster he becomes when he plays half his games on top of a mountain where his weaknesses aren't as exposed as they were if he played here in the bay area, near sea level and dealing with the marine layer.
We disagree slightly on the numbers but I see we can pretty much agree. I think he could definitely hit more than 25 homers here though. I thought you were saying he wouldn't be anything special outside of Coors.
Another thing, Gonzalez is only 24 and could develop more, maybe not all that much power-wise but in other areas of his game to boost up his average as well.
No he's not a "Top-5 talent" but he is a legitimate star, and will be playing in all star games for a long time.
[ Edited by AllTimeGreat on Sep 8, 2010 at 16:54:05 ]
Sep 8, 2010 at 5:47 PM
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Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:Originally posted by ninerpride:
Agreed. I've said all along that I think it was a huge mistake to have dealt Gonzalez in that Holliday deal knowing Holliday was a one year rental and knowing 09 wasn't a season the A's seriously were gonna contend with basically a rookie/inexperienced rotation with Braden, Cahill, Anderson, Duke as your top four starters. Two being rookies and the other two not having even pitched a full year as a starter.
What I'm saying is that all this complaining that Gonzalez would be a SUPERSTAR triple crown guy threat had he stayed with the A's is nonsense. Good player, again all star talent as we A's fans his five tool potential his half season in 08 with the A's, but not even close to putting up the #s he's had in COL had he stayed these past 1 3/4 seasons with the A's playing at the coliseum which is as 180 degrees opposite of hitter's park compared to Coors.
Gonzalez with the A's and at the coliseum would probably be a .290/.350/.450 25 HR/100 RBI type hitter here. Again all star type talent but not the monster he becomes when he plays half his games on top of a mountain where his weaknesses aren't as exposed as they were if he played here in the bay area, near sea level and dealing with the marine layer.
We disagree slightly on the numbers but I see we can pretty much agree. I think he could definitely hit more than 25 homers here though. I thought you were saying he wouldn't be anything special outside of Coors.
Another thing, Gonzalez is only 24 and could develop more, maybe not all that much power-wise but in other areas of his game to boost up his average as well.
No he's not a "Top-5 talent" but he is a legitimate star, and will be playing in all star games for a long time.
Bottom Line.
I remember when we first traded for the guy and ALL of us said CarGo should now be the face of the franchise (At the time, Buck, Sweeney and Suzuki were the potential "faces"). Hindsights' 20/20, but gott dammit! How could Billy let this cat get away??
I'll get over it once CarGo's game slides off...sometime around 2019.
Sep 8, 2010 at 8:58 PM
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Chavez said if and probably when he retires after this season, that he wouldn't mind going into the booth.
He was on air tonight with Glen/Ray. Sounded decent, maybe the A's hire him and try to get some actual performance from him trying to "recoup" some of that 40-50 million over the past 4-5 seasons that Chavez "didn't earn" with all his DL stints.
I know a lot of A's fans are unhappy with the broadcast team both on TV and radio. Really the one guy who the majority of A's fans respect is Korach on radio since taking over for King. I agree, Korach is solid.
But the TV team of Glen/Ray isn't great. I think Ray actually is a decent color man when he has a good play by play man next to him, be it a Moore back in the 80s or Papa from the 90s up until what 04 or 05 when they decided to let him go for some reason.
Controneo on radio is nothing too special. I know R.Bernstein has always been mentioned as a guy that many A's fans would love to see take over the TV side. Heck he's "co hosting" on 860 during the day and ones in the media who actually knows a bit about the team.
He was on air tonight with Glen/Ray. Sounded decent, maybe the A's hire him and try to get some actual performance from him trying to "recoup" some of that 40-50 million over the past 4-5 seasons that Chavez "didn't earn" with all his DL stints.
I know a lot of A's fans are unhappy with the broadcast team both on TV and radio. Really the one guy who the majority of A's fans respect is Korach on radio since taking over for King. I agree, Korach is solid.
But the TV team of Glen/Ray isn't great. I think Ray actually is a decent color man when he has a good play by play man next to him, be it a Moore back in the 80s or Papa from the 90s up until what 04 or 05 when they decided to let him go for some reason.
Controneo on radio is nothing too special. I know R.Bernstein has always been mentioned as a guy that many A's fans would love to see take over the TV side. Heck he's "co hosting" on 860 during the day and ones in the media who actually knows a bit about the team.
Sep 9, 2010 at 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by Jigga:Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:Originally posted by ninerpride:
Agreed. I've said all along that I think it was a huge mistake to have dealt Gonzalez in that Holliday deal knowing Holliday was a one year rental and knowing 09 wasn't a season the A's seriously were gonna contend with basically a rookie/inexperienced rotation with Braden, Cahill, Anderson, Duke as your top four starters. Two being rookies and the other two not having even pitched a full year as a starter.
What I'm saying is that all this complaining that Gonzalez would be a SUPERSTAR triple crown guy threat had he stayed with the A's is nonsense. Good player, again all star talent as we A's fans his five tool potential his half season in 08 with the A's, but not even close to putting up the #s he's had in COL had he stayed these past 1 3/4 seasons with the A's playing at the coliseum which is as 180 degrees opposite of hitter's park compared to Coors.
Gonzalez with the A's and at the coliseum would probably be a .290/.350/.450 25 HR/100 RBI type hitter here. Again all star type talent but not the monster he becomes when he plays half his games on top of a mountain where his weaknesses aren't as exposed as they were if he played here in the bay area, near sea level and dealing with the marine layer.
We disagree slightly on the numbers but I see we can pretty much agree. I think he could definitely hit more than 25 homers here though. I thought you were saying he wouldn't be anything special outside of Coors.
Another thing, Gonzalez is only 24 and could develop more, maybe not all that much power-wise but in other areas of his game to boost up his average as well.
No he's not a "Top-5 talent" but he is a legitimate star, and will be playing in all star games for a long time.
Bottom Line.
I remember when we first traded for the guy and ALL of us said CarGo should now be the face of the franchise (At the time, Buck, Sweeney and Suzuki were the potential "faces"). Hindsights' 20/20, but gott dammit! How could Billy let this cat get away??
I'll get over it once CarGo's game slides off...sometime around 2019.
Even when he didn't do all that well in his first year in the bigs, he just looked like a budding star, something that I never saw with the the other A's young players of the past 5 or so years. There was this buzz about him, I remember just feeling it, that he had all the tools and was just about to put it all together and bust out.
Sep 9, 2010 at 2:11 AM
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Gonzalez did have something special about him.
Remember his first 5 or 6 hits in the bigs went for XHBs. He threw out a handful of guys out at the plate from CF.
Talent was there.
Again still don't think he would be putting up anywhere near the #s he's putting up with COL had he stayed here but it was a stupid to trade Gonzalez regardless. You gotta wonder what Beane was thinking. He's been known before as a guy who didn't want to rebuild halfass or halfway and that's exactly what he did dealing away Gonzalez for Holliday and signing the likes of Giambi, Cabrera, Nomar when as far as a pitching staff it was nowhere near ready to compete realistically.
Remember his first 5 or 6 hits in the bigs went for XHBs. He threw out a handful of guys out at the plate from CF.
Talent was there.
Again still don't think he would be putting up anywhere near the #s he's putting up with COL had he stayed here but it was a stupid to trade Gonzalez regardless. You gotta wonder what Beane was thinking. He's been known before as a guy who didn't want to rebuild halfass or halfway and that's exactly what he did dealing away Gonzalez for Holliday and signing the likes of Giambi, Cabrera, Nomar when as far as a pitching staff it was nowhere near ready to compete realistically.
Sep 9, 2010 at 2:16 AM
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SLVG sent this letter to BS WED...
Looks as city of SJ, business community down in the south bay, and the A's are getting serious about this.
In just the past month, we see the "renderings" of Cisco Field. TUE we see major news outlets finally reporting that 360 is the firm that is designing the A's and EQ's new venues although it's well been known at least those who've followed the A's new park saga for the last 4-5 years who has been the firm hired to design the A's new park. Now this letter.
Not to mention the SJ city council and the SJ mayor forcing MLB to make some kind of public statement about the matter when they approved the ballot measure to take place this NOV and a few days later MLB and SJ agree to put the measure on hold until next spring with MLB footing the bill.
Looks as all the wheels are pointing towards SJ.
Quote:
September 8, 2010
The Office of the Commissioner of Baseball
Allan H. (Bud) Selig, Commissioner
245 Park Avenue, 31st Floor
New York, NY, 10167
Dear Commissioner Selig,
The Silicon Valley Leadership Group strongly supports a new home for the Athletics baseball team in downtown San
Jose. We were encouraged to learn of San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed’s positive conversation with Major League
Baseball President Bob Dupuy regarding the timing of a possible election next spring should the A’s be granted
approval to pursue the construction of a baseball-only state of the art Ballpark in downtown San Jose.
By way of background, the Silicon Valley Leadership Group was founded in 1977 by David Packard and has grown to
become the largest organization of its kind in Silicon Valley with more than 300 member companies. Combined
member companies employ more than 250,000 local workers – nearly one of every three jobs – and generate more
than $2 trillion worth in global revenue.
We, the undersigned CEOs and senior executives, are committed to bringing jobs, revenue, a rich culture, and a
thriving business climate to Silicon Valley. We believe that an intimate state of the art ballpark located on a prime
downtown San Jose parcel, close to mass transit and major highways will be a catalyst for economic development in
our region. We also believe downtown San Jose offers a compelling location for the advancement of Major League
Baseball in the 21st Century. Silicon Valley is well known throughout the world as the cradle of innovation and the
leading incubator of new ideas and new possibilities for human kind. There is no better location than San Jose,
located in the heart of Silicon Valley, to advance the Major League Baseball brand on a global basis.
San Jose is a world-class community, and the ballpark proposal not only secures a quality Major League Baseball team
for America’s 10th largest city, but also creates jobs, strengthens our economy and enhances the cultural opportunities
for our workers and their families. According to an economic study commissioned by the City of San Jose, a new
ballpark will generate thousands of construction jobs and permanent positions at the ballpark and surrounding area.
The Silicon Valley Leadership Group, along with other respected and diverse organizations, stands ready to offer any
support needed to move this important project forward. The Silicon Valley Leadership Group is comprised of both
devoted A’s and Giants fans and we will continue to enthusiastically support both teams. We strongly believe that
both teams will thrive in a vibrant two team market anchored by San Francisco and the Bay Area’s largest city, San
Jose. Today, the Bay Area is the only two team market in Major League Baseball where the teams don’t fully share
their common geographic territory. The divided territory was imposed at the request of San Jose baseball boosters in
1992 in a previous attempt to secure a Major League Baseball team. We can only hope moving forward that the Bay
Area can be restored to a shared marketplace for the two teams in a manner similar to Chicago, Los Angeles and New
York.
It is integral to our mission that we support and promote opportunities to improve the quality of life for families who
live and work in Silicon Valley. A new A’s ballpark will provide a great entertainment and community asset that will
capture the essence of Silicon Valley. It will be a tremendous benefit to our region, with a wide appeal that can help
to promote Silicon Valley – and Major League Baseball – on a national and international level. The new venue will be a
great source of pride for our innovative region, and deserves your consideration and approval to move forward.
Please call on us to help make this decades old dream to attract a Major League Baseball team to Silicon Valley a reality
in the near future.
Sincerely,
John Chambers Tom Werner Mike Klayko Carl Guardino
CEO, Cisco Inc. CEO, SunPower CEO, Brocade Inc. CEO, Silicon Valley Leadership Group
Carol Bartz John Donahoe John Doerr Shantanu Narayen
CEO, Yahoo! CEO, eBay Partner, Kleiner Perkins CEO, Adobe
Bill Coleman, Partner, Alsop Louie Partners
Chuck Kissner, CEO, Aviat Networks
Jay Glasscock, CEO, BD Biosciences
Don Bell, CEO, Bell Microproducts
Jason Wolf, CEO, Better Place
Brian NeSmith, CEO, Blue Coat Systems
John Conover, CEO, Borel Private Bank & Trust Company
Bill Watkins, CEO, Bridgelux
Pete Nelson, CEO, California Water Service
Nick Bruckner, CareerBuilder
Chuck Reynolds, CEO, CH Reynolds
Richard Lowenthal, CEO, Coulomb Technologies
David Ketsdever, CEO, Cowen & Company
Jason Bright, CEO, Cyber Switching, Inc.
Peter Moran, Partner, DCM
J. Kim Fennell, CEO, DeCarta
David Lerner, CEO, Declaration Services
Stephen Samuel, CEO, Design Visionaries
Vishal Verma, Partner, Edgewood Ventures
Fred Rosenzweig, CEO, Electronics For Imaging
Kevin Evans, CEO, Energy Connect
Tom Hayse, CEO, ETM Electromatic
Terry Clark, CEO, Finelite
Linda Thor, President, Foothill-De Anza Community College District
Martin Schoeppler, CEO, FUJIFILM Dimatix
Mike Fox Jr., CEO, Goodwill of Santa Clara County
Sonny Aulakh, CEO, Greenlight Organic
Dave Anderson, GridIron Systems
Vandana Pant, CEO, The Health Trust
Bill DelBiaggio, Founder, Heritage Bank of Commerce
Conrad Burke, CEO, Innovalight
Cecelia McCloy, CEO, Integrated Science Solutions
David Bell, CEO, Intersil
Amir Mashkoori, CEO, Kovio
Gary Steele, CEO, Landec
Norman Kline, CEO, LibraryWorld, Inc.
Joseph Moless, President, Lincoln Law School
Sehat Sutardja, CEO, Marvell
Len Perham, CEO, MoSys
Lew Wolff, Oakland A’s/San Jose Earthquakes
Rich Slavin, CEO, Palo Alto Medical Foundation
Ron Gonzales, CEO, Presencia LLC
Ralph Scmitt, CEO, PLX Technology
Fred Amoroso, CEO, Rovi Corporation
Michael Engh, S.J., President, Santa Clara University
Kevin Surace, CEO, Serious Materials
James MacGregor, Publisher, SV/San Jose Business Journal
Scott Lang, CEO, Silver Spring Networks
John Gilmore, CEO, Sling Media
Mike Armsby, CFO, Soladigm
Jim Weldon, CEO, Solar Junction
Mark Crowley, CEO, Solfocus
Tim Harris, CEO, SoloPower
Godfrey Sullivan, CEO, Splunk
Celeste Ford, CEO, Stellar Solutions
Bruce McWilliams, CEO, SuVolta
Ken Wilcox, CEO, SVB Financial Group
David Côté, CEO, Symmetricom
Paul Lovoi, CEO, Tagent
Stephen Levers, CEO, Tecan Systems
Barbara Kamm, CEO, Technology Credit Union
Hank Nothhaft, CEO, Tessera
Tom Ayers, CEO, Tropos Networks
George Blumenthal, President, University of California, Santa Cruz
Tim Guertin, CEO, Varian Medical Systems
Tarkan Maner, CEO, Wyse Technology
Chris Cabrerra, CEO, Xactly Corporation
Looks as city of SJ, business community down in the south bay, and the A's are getting serious about this.
In just the past month, we see the "renderings" of Cisco Field. TUE we see major news outlets finally reporting that 360 is the firm that is designing the A's and EQ's new venues although it's well been known at least those who've followed the A's new park saga for the last 4-5 years who has been the firm hired to design the A's new park. Now this letter.
Not to mention the SJ city council and the SJ mayor forcing MLB to make some kind of public statement about the matter when they approved the ballot measure to take place this NOV and a few days later MLB and SJ agree to put the measure on hold until next spring with MLB footing the bill.
Looks as all the wheels are pointing towards SJ.
Sep 11, 2010 at 3:04 AM
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Originally posted by ninerpride:
AN had a piece a month or so ago about the whole Gonzalez "Coors" factor...
http://www.athleticsnation.com/2010/8/8/1611852/carlos-gonzalez-a-god-on-a-mountain
Seriously.
I'm taking everything Cargo does with a grain of salt until he proves that he's elite on the road as well.
Sep 11, 2010 at 4:17 AM
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Well 860 has cleaned house.
They got rid of Savage and thank god for that, now I don't have to quickly turn the station off or change to another station completely when I hear the commercials being played.
Townsend is still around. Difference is he'll be paid by the A's and not by 860, whos owners are having financial tough times as they've shut down many other of their radio stations due to the struggling economy.
Ratings wise, there's still steady improvement, again nothing great.
SF/OAK market, the A's are getting a crappy 0.4 in AUG. What's funny is in SJ they're getting a 0.7 rating last month, a near double of the ratings from July. What are there more A's fans that live in SJ than here up north a bit where they've played 40+ years. Maybe some in SJ are listening up to their potential new MLB team that could be 4 or years away from moving there.
860 is second in the bay area, least on the sports radio dial. 860 just edges out 1050 here in the SF/OAK media market but triples the ratings that 1050 gets in SJ. Course neither is even close to what 680 puts up but that has more to do with name brand. Bruce said it best a few weeks ago, you could put chickens clucking on air and they'd still get good ratings.
The 860 signal is still crappy especially at night, which you'd think they try to improve when I'd guess nearly 1/4 of their games are home night games on weekdays.
Townsend I read said on air that he says there are quite a few who are interested in buying 860. Wonder if the A's would be ones and that they could "control" the message although I hope they don't go as far as 680 does in terms of controlling the message of the station, IE firing or moving Bruce to 1050 when he became too much of a negative entity on their precious station.
Whatever happens, this whole signal thing has to be fixed before the A's move. Now the move could happen as far down as 2015 so 860 and whoever owns the station has potentially the next 3-4 years to fix this issue.
Just can't see a potential new fan base that Wolff wants in SJ having issues listening to games on home games.
They got rid of Savage and thank god for that, now I don't have to quickly turn the station off or change to another station completely when I hear the commercials being played.
Townsend is still around. Difference is he'll be paid by the A's and not by 860, whos owners are having financial tough times as they've shut down many other of their radio stations due to the struggling economy.
Ratings wise, there's still steady improvement, again nothing great.
SF/OAK market, the A's are getting a crappy 0.4 in AUG. What's funny is in SJ they're getting a 0.7 rating last month, a near double of the ratings from July. What are there more A's fans that live in SJ than here up north a bit where they've played 40+ years. Maybe some in SJ are listening up to their potential new MLB team that could be 4 or years away from moving there.
860 is second in the bay area, least on the sports radio dial. 860 just edges out 1050 here in the SF/OAK media market but triples the ratings that 1050 gets in SJ. Course neither is even close to what 680 puts up but that has more to do with name brand. Bruce said it best a few weeks ago, you could put chickens clucking on air and they'd still get good ratings.
The 860 signal is still crappy especially at night, which you'd think they try to improve when I'd guess nearly 1/4 of their games are home night games on weekdays.
Townsend I read said on air that he says there are quite a few who are interested in buying 860. Wonder if the A's would be ones and that they could "control" the message although I hope they don't go as far as 680 does in terms of controlling the message of the station, IE firing or moving Bruce to 1050 when he became too much of a negative entity on their precious station.
Whatever happens, this whole signal thing has to be fixed before the A's move. Now the move could happen as far down as 2015 so 860 and whoever owns the station has potentially the next 3-4 years to fix this issue.
Just can't see a potential new fan base that Wolff wants in SJ having issues listening to games on home games.