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2008-09 San Antonio Spurs Thread

Originally posted by socalfan21:
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by socalfan21:
Originally posted by pantstickle:
Originally posted by ninerswin317:
Good luck rest of the season

Thanks, you guys too. I'd like to see us matched up in the finals.

You guys will definately be in the finals this year!


If Lamar, Kobe, Gasol, Bynum, Ariza and Farmar all go blind and lose their arms before the playoffs

Yeah, because we're so outmatched.

Um.. yes? We beat you guys in 5 last year without Bynum or Ariza.. you guys have a better chance getting 5 dollars from a homeless man..

In the pivotal game 4, the Spurs were duped with an obvious foul by Fisher on Barry. It would have made the series 2-2.

Anyways, last year, throughout the playoffs, the Spurs had at least one quarter per game where they went completely cold. The good thing is that they have added some key young players.

This game should have been a blowout but you guys kept making some very difficult shots in the first half.

Your defense sucks and it will show in the playoffs.

[ Edited by Joecool on Jan 15, 2009 at 08:41:00 ]
Here's the basics of this game.

The Spurs played good defense and got open looks because the Lakers don't play good defense.

The Lakers make covered shots and with Fishers usual clutch 3-pointers to keep it close along with Kobe Bryant, the Lakers end up making it a close game.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Here's the basics of this game.

The Spurs played good defense and got open looks because the Lakers don't play good defense.

The Lakers make covered shots and with Fishers usual clutch 3-pointers to keep it close along with Kobe Bryant, the Lakers end up making it a close game.

But Bynum was scoring at will 18pts 3reb....LOL
Originally posted by Joecool:
Here's the basics of this game.

The Spurs played good defense and got open looks because the Lakers don't play good defense.

The Lakers make covered shots and with Fishers usual clutch 3-pointers to keep it close along with Kobe Bryant, the Lakers end up making it a close game.

LOL. So Manu shooting 35 footers at the buzzer, Duncan flinging the ball behind his head, and Mason hitting that awkward jumper were "open looks"?

The fact of the matter is that the Lakers shut the Spurs down in the 4th quarter w/very few open looks, largely due to Ariza hassling Tony Parker. Halfway through the season, the Lakers give up 104.6 points per 100 possessions. The Spurs give up 104.8 points per 100 possessions. Furthermore, we haven't busted out the Strong Side Zone that was so successful at the beginning of the season since Xmas.

We had 8 players available, on the 2nd night of a back to back in the building of the 2nd best team in the West, are intentionally withholding our most effective defensive scheme...and it still took a couple of incredible shots to beat us.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Here's the basics of this game.

The Spurs played good defense and got open looks because the Lakers don't play good defense.

The Lakers make covered shots and with Fishers usual clutch 3-pointers to keep it close along with Kobe Bryant, the Lakers end up making it a close game.

LOL. So Manu shooting 35 footers at the buzzer, Duncan flinging the ball behind his head, and Mason hitting that awkward jumper were "open looks"?

The fact of the matter is that the Lakers shut the Spurs down in the 4th quarter w/very few open looks, largely due to Ariza hassling Tony Parker. Halfway through the season, the Lakers give up 104.6 points per 100 possessions. The Spurs give up 104.8 points per 100 possessions. Furthermore, we haven't busted out the Strong Side Zone that was so successful at the beginning of the season since Xmas.

We had 8 players available, on the 2nd night of a back to back in the building of the 2nd best team in the West, are intentionally withholding our most effective defensive scheme...and it still took a couple of incredible shots to beat us.

I already included those at lucky shots. They are no different then the Kobe fadeaway 3, a couple of Bynum's awkward shots, and numerous well covered shots the Lakers were hitting in the first half.

If the Lakers wanted this game to end in their favor, then they should have played defense in the first half but they didn't need to because they were hitting some well-covered shots. That was the reason why the Spurs opened it up with an 11 point lead because those shots for the Lakers stopped falling but the Spurs were still getting easy open looks such as the back doors to Tony for the Layup and no double team on Duncan.

It still amazes me that Laker fans didn't see a game that had the Spurs leading almost throughout only to have the usual Kobe Time in the last few minutes. THAT doesn't make for a good team, it just means you have Kobe. The Lakers were beat throughout yesterday's game and just as Kobe hit that three, we also matched it.

Also, Manu still isn't completely healthy. You want to claim that you haven't pulled out your "secret" defense, well, the Spurs don't even really start playing until the last 2 months.

Oh yeah! Spurs 1 Lakers 0

It's on like Donkey Kong. I love rivalries.

[ Edited by Joecool on Jan 15, 2009 at 10:15:14 ]
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Here's the basics of this game.

The Spurs played good defense and got open looks because the Lakers don't play good defense.

The Lakers make covered shots and with Fishers usual clutch 3-pointers to keep it close along with Kobe Bryant, the Lakers end up making it a close game.

LOL. So Manu shooting 35 footers at the buzzer, Duncan flinging the ball behind his head, and Mason hitting that awkward jumper were "open looks"?

The fact of the matter is that the Lakers shut the Spurs down in the 4th quarter w/very few open looks, largely due to Ariza hassling Tony Parker. Halfway through the season, the Lakers give up 104.6 points per 100 possessions. The Spurs give up 104.8 points per 100 possessions. Furthermore, we haven't busted out the Strong Side Zone that was so successful at the beginning of the season since Xmas.

We had 8 players available, on the 2nd night of a back to back in the building of the 2nd best team in the West, are intentionally withholding our most effective defensive scheme...and it still took a couple of incredible shots to beat us.

I already included those at lucky shots. They are no different then the Kobe fadeaway 3, a couple of Bynum's awkward shots, and numerous well covered shots the Lakers were hitting in the first half.

If the Lakers wanted this game to end in their favor, then they should have played defense in the first half but they didn't need to because they were hitting some well-covered shots. That was the reason why the Spurs opened it up with an 11 point lead because those shots for the Lakers stopped falling but the Spurs were still getting easy open looks such as the back doors to Tony for the Layup and no double team on Duncan.

It still amazes me that Laker fans didn't see a game that had the Spurs leading almost throughout only to have the usual Kobe Time in the last few minutes. THAT doesn't make for a good team, it just means you have Kobe. The Lakers were beat throughout yesterday's game and just as Kobe hit that three, we also matched it.

Also, Manu still isn't completely healthy. You want to claim that you haven't pulled out your "secret" defense, well, the Spurs don't even really start playing until the last 2 months.

Oh yeah! Spurs 1 Lakers 0

It's on like Donkey Kong. I love rivalries.

And we beat you 4-1 last year without someone whose length gives Duncan difficulty (Bynum) and someone whose length and quickness gives Parker difficulty. (Ariza)

There were open shots on both ends in that 1st half, no doubt. Spurs weren't playing good defense either. Gasol was getting whatever he wanted, and Roger Mason has ZERO chance of guarding Kobe. We didn't even have our Slovenian Manu stopper last night either.

As for "Kobe time", you DID just talk about how Powell & Gasol were hitting shots off of the pick and roll, right?
Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Here's the basics of this game.

The Spurs played good defense and got open looks because the Lakers don't play good defense.

The Lakers make covered shots and with Fishers usual clutch 3-pointers to keep it close along with Kobe Bryant, the Lakers end up making it a close game.

But Bynum was scoring at will 18pts 3reb....LOL

Ah yes...the ever relevant rebounding statistics when discussing a player's ability to score in the post.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Here's the basics of this game.

The Spurs played good defense and got open looks because the Lakers don't play good defense.

The Lakers make covered shots and with Fishers usual clutch 3-pointers to keep it close along with Kobe Bryant, the Lakers end up making it a close game.

LOL. So Manu shooting 35 footers at the buzzer, Duncan flinging the ball behind his head, and Mason hitting that awkward jumper were "open looks"?

The fact of the matter is that the Lakers shut the Spurs down in the 4th quarter w/very few open looks, largely due to Ariza hassling Tony Parker. Halfway through the season, the Lakers give up 104.6 points per 100 possessions. The Spurs give up 104.8 points per 100 possessions. Furthermore, we haven't busted out the Strong Side Zone that was so successful at the beginning of the season since Xmas.

We had 8 players available, on the 2nd night of a back to back in the building of the 2nd best team in the West, are intentionally withholding our most effective defensive scheme...and it still took a couple of incredible shots to beat us.

I already included those at lucky shots. They are no different then the Kobe fadeaway 3, a couple of Bynum's awkward shots, and numerous well covered shots the Lakers were hitting in the first half.

If the Lakers wanted this game to end in their favor, then they should have played defense in the first half but they didn't need to because they were hitting some well-covered shots. That was the reason why the Spurs opened it up with an 11 point lead because those shots for the Lakers stopped falling but the Spurs were still getting easy open looks such as the back doors to Tony for the Layup and no double team on Duncan.

It still amazes me that Laker fans didn't see a game that had the Spurs leading almost throughout only to have the usual Kobe Time in the last few minutes. THAT doesn't make for a good team, it just means you have Kobe. The Lakers were beat throughout yesterday's game and just as Kobe hit that three, we also matched it.

Also, Manu still isn't completely healthy. You want to claim that you haven't pulled out your "secret" defense, well, the Spurs don't even really start playing until the last 2 months.

Oh yeah! Spurs 1 Lakers 0

It's on like Donkey Kong. I love rivalries.

And we beat you 4-1 last year without someone whose length gives Duncan difficulty (Bynum) and someone whose length and quickness gives Parker difficulty. (Ariza)

There were open shots on both ends in that 1st half, no doubt. Spurs weren't playing good defense either. Gasol was getting whatever he wanted, and Roger Mason has ZERO chance of guarding Kobe. We didn't even have our Slovenian Manu stopper last night either.

As for "Kobe time", you DID just talk about how Powell & Gasol were hitting shots off of the pick and roll, right?

Don't give me that 4-1. It should have been tied 2-2 going into game 5.

I don't think Bynum can guard Duncan very well. I think Gasol does it better because he just tries to stay in front of Tim and doesn't try to block his shots. Tim's worst nightmare is a tall guy who stands there with his arms up. Tim used some easy moves to get open for an easy shot against Bynum.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Here's the basics of this game.

The Spurs played good defense and got open looks because the Lakers don't play good defense.

The Lakers make covered shots and with Fishers usual clutch 3-pointers to keep it close along with Kobe Bryant, the Lakers end up making it a close game.

But Bynum was scoring at will 18pts 3reb....LOL

Ah yes...the ever relevant rebounding statistics when discussing a player's ability to score in the post.

If you think scoring 18pts is scoring at will.......
Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Here's the basics of this game.

The Spurs played good defense and got open looks because the Lakers don't play good defense.

The Lakers make covered shots and with Fishers usual clutch 3-pointers to keep it close along with Kobe Bryant, the Lakers end up making it a close game.

But Bynum was scoring at will 18pts 3reb....LOL

Ah yes...the ever relevant rebounding statistics when discussing a player's ability to score in the post.

If you think scoring 18pts is scoring at will.......

He missed only one shot that I can recall while Duncan was guarding him in the post, and hit at least 4 while getting to the spot on the floor that he wanted to get to. Point being, if you can score consistently on Duncan in the post, you can do it against just about anyone in single coverage. It's just another arrow in the quiver for the Lakers. Bynum's still yet to put together a complete game though.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Here's the basics of this game.

The Spurs played good defense and got open looks because the Lakers don't play good defense.

The Lakers make covered shots and with Fishers usual clutch 3-pointers to keep it close along with Kobe Bryant, the Lakers end up making it a close game.

But Bynum was scoring at will 18pts 3reb....LOL

Ah yes...the ever relevant rebounding statistics when discussing a player's ability to score in the post.

If you think scoring 18pts is scoring at will.......

He missed only one shot that I can recall while Duncan was guarding him in the post, and hit at least 4 while getting to the spot on the floor that he wanted to get to. Point being, if you can score consistently on Duncan in the post, you can do it against just about anyone in single coverage. It's just another arrow in the quiver for the Lakers. Bynum's still yet to put together a complete game though.

I don't know. The type of post shots he was taking didn't look very good or clean. He can have those all day and in the long run, it won't help him as it seemed like they were just landing for him more than anything.

Looked like Dikembe type of shots: ugly.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Here's the basics of this game.

The Spurs played good defense and got open looks because the Lakers don't play good defense.

The Lakers make covered shots and with Fishers usual clutch 3-pointers to keep it close along with Kobe Bryant, the Lakers end up making it a close game.

LOL. So Manu shooting 35 footers at the buzzer, Duncan flinging the ball behind his head, and Mason hitting that awkward jumper were "open looks"?

The fact of the matter is that the Lakers shut the Spurs down in the 4th quarter w/very few open looks, largely due to Ariza hassling Tony Parker. Halfway through the season, the Lakers give up 104.6 points per 100 possessions. The Spurs give up 104.8 points per 100 possessions. Furthermore, we haven't busted out the Strong Side Zone that was so successful at the beginning of the season since Xmas.

We had 8 players available, on the 2nd night of a back to back in the building of the 2nd best team in the West, are intentionally withholding our most effective defensive scheme...and it still took a couple of incredible shots to beat us.

I already included those at lucky shots. They are no different then the Kobe fadeaway 3, a couple of Bynum's awkward shots, and numerous well covered shots the Lakers were hitting in the first half.

If the Lakers wanted this game to end in their favor, then they should have played defense in the first half but they didn't need to because they were hitting some well-covered shots. That was the reason why the Spurs opened it up with an 11 point lead because those shots for the Lakers stopped falling but the Spurs were still getting easy open looks such as the back doors to Tony for the Layup and no double team on Duncan.

It still amazes me that Laker fans didn't see a game that had the Spurs leading almost throughout only to have the usual Kobe Time in the last few minutes. THAT doesn't make for a good team, it just means you have Kobe. The Lakers were beat throughout yesterday's game and just as Kobe hit that three, we also matched it.

Also, Manu still isn't completely healthy. You want to claim that you haven't pulled out your "secret" defense, well, the Spurs don't even really start playing until the last 2 months.

Oh yeah! Spurs 1 Lakers 0

It's on like Donkey Kong. I love rivalries.

And we beat you 4-1 last year without someone whose length gives Duncan difficulty (Bynum) and someone whose length and quickness gives Parker difficulty. (Ariza)

There were open shots on both ends in that 1st half, no doubt. Spurs weren't playing good defense either. Gasol was getting whatever he wanted, and Roger Mason has ZERO chance of guarding Kobe. We didn't even have our Slovenian Manu stopper last night either.

As for "Kobe time", you DID just talk about how Powell & Gasol were hitting shots off of the pick and roll, right?

Don't give me that 4-1. It should have been tied 2-2 going into game 5.

I don't think Bynum can guard Duncan very well. I think Gasol does it better because he just tries to stay in front of Tim and doesn't try to block his shots. Tim's worst nightmare is a tall guy who stands there with his arms up. Tim used some easy moves to get open for an easy shot against Bynum.

LOL! You still sour about wanting to get bailed out on a 30 footer as time expires?

Well, if you want a chicken-s**t call, why not call the first violation, which was traveling on Barry. (watch him lift his right foot, which he had established as the pivot foot before the contact with Fisher). Neither of those calls should be made at the end of a game.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Here's the basics of this game.

The Spurs played good defense and got open looks because the Lakers don't play good defense.

The Lakers make covered shots and with Fishers usual clutch 3-pointers to keep it close along with Kobe Bryant, the Lakers end up making it a close game.

But Bynum was scoring at will 18pts 3reb....LOL

Ah yes...the ever relevant rebounding statistics when discussing a player's ability to score in the post.

If you think scoring 18pts is scoring at will.......

He missed only one shot that I can recall while Duncan was guarding him in the post, and hit at least 4 while getting to the spot on the floor that he wanted to get to. Point being, if you can score consistently on Duncan in the post, you can do it against just about anyone in single coverage. It's just another arrow in the quiver for the Lakers. Bynum's still yet to put together a complete game though.

I don't know. The type of post shots he was taking didn't look very good or clean. He can have those all day and in the long run, it won't help him as it seemed like they were just landing for him more than anything.

Looked like Dikembe type of shots: ugly.

Bynum isn't a very pretty player in the post at all, but those are the type of shots that he hits. I promise you, that's normal for him. He's not fluid at all. The Mutombo comparison, in terms of how it "looks" is spot on.

That being said, he got a couple of nice jump hooks and drop steps on Timmy as well. His footwork is very good.
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Hollywood49er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Here's the basics of this game.

The Spurs played good defense and got open looks because the Lakers don't play good defense.

The Lakers make covered shots and with Fishers usual clutch 3-pointers to keep it close along with Kobe Bryant, the Lakers end up making it a close game.

But Bynum was scoring at will 18pts 3reb....LOL

Ah yes...the ever relevant rebounding statistics when discussing a player's ability to score in the post.

If you think scoring 18pts is scoring at will.......

He missed only one shot that I can recall while Duncan was guarding him in the post, and hit at least 4 while getting to the spot on the floor that he wanted to get to. Point being, if you can score consistently on Duncan in the post, you can do it against just about anyone in single coverage. It's just another arrow in the quiver for the Lakers. Bynum's still yet to put together a complete game though.

I don't know. The type of post shots he was taking didn't look very good or clean. He can have those all day and in the long run, it won't help him as it seemed like they were just landing for him more than anything.

Looked like Dikembe type of shots: ugly.

Bynum isn't a very pretty player in the post at all, but those are the type of shots that he hits. I promise you, that's normal for him. He's not fluid at all. The Mutombo comparison, in terms of how it "looks" is spot on.

That being said, he got a couple of nice jump hooks and drop steps on Timmy as well. His footwork is very good.

Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by LA9erFan:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Here's the basics of this game.

The Spurs played good defense and got open looks because the Lakers don't play good defense.

The Lakers make covered shots and with Fishers usual clutch 3-pointers to keep it close along with Kobe Bryant, the Lakers end up making it a close game.

LOL. So Manu shooting 35 footers at the buzzer, Duncan flinging the ball behind his head, and Mason hitting that awkward jumper were "open looks"?

The fact of the matter is that the Lakers shut the Spurs down in the 4th quarter w/very few open looks, largely due to Ariza hassling Tony Parker. Halfway through the season, the Lakers give up 104.6 points per 100 possessions. The Spurs give up 104.8 points per 100 possessions. Furthermore, we haven't busted out the Strong Side Zone that was so successful at the beginning of the season since Xmas.

We had 8 players available, on the 2nd night of a back to back in the building of the 2nd best team in the West, are intentionally withholding our most effective defensive scheme...and it still took a couple of incredible shots to beat us.

I already included those at lucky shots. They are no different then the Kobe fadeaway 3, a couple of Bynum's awkward shots, and numerous well covered shots the Lakers were hitting in the first half.

If the Lakers wanted this game to end in their favor, then they should have played defense in the first half but they didn't need to because they were hitting some well-covered shots. That was the reason why the Spurs opened it up with an 11 point lead because those shots for the Lakers stopped falling but the Spurs were still getting easy open looks such as the back doors to Tony for the Layup and no double team on Duncan.

It still amazes me that Laker fans didn't see a game that had the Spurs leading almost throughout only to have the usual Kobe Time in the last few minutes. THAT doesn't make for a good team, it just means you have Kobe. The Lakers were beat throughout yesterday's game and just as Kobe hit that three, we also matched it.

Also, Manu still isn't completely healthy. You want to claim that you haven't pulled out your "secret" defense, well, the Spurs don't even really start playing until the last 2 months.

Oh yeah! Spurs 1 Lakers 0

It's on like Donkey Kong. I love rivalries.

And we beat you 4-1 last year without someone whose length gives Duncan difficulty (Bynum) and someone whose length and quickness gives Parker difficulty. (Ariza)

There were open shots on both ends in that 1st half, no doubt. Spurs weren't playing good defense either. Gasol was getting whatever he wanted, and Roger Mason has ZERO chance of guarding Kobe. We didn't even have our Slovenian Manu stopper last night either.

As for "Kobe time", you DID just talk about how Powell & Gasol were hitting shots off of the pick and roll, right?

Don't give me that 4-1. It should have been tied 2-2 going into game 5.

I don't think Bynum can guard Duncan very well. I think Gasol does it better because he just tries to stay in front of Tim and doesn't try to block his shots. Tim's worst nightmare is a tall guy who stands there with his arms up. Tim used some easy moves to get open for an easy shot against Bynum.

LOL! You still sour about wanting to get bailed out on a 30 footer as time expires?

Well, if you want a chicken-s**t call, why not call the first violation, which was traveling on Barry. (watch him lift his right foot, which he had established as the pivot foot before the contact with Fisher). Neither of those calls should be made at the end of a game.

Considering that shooting a 40 footer for Brent Barry is like shooting a 20 and that Fisher landed on him and didn't even allow him to shoot over takes the fact that everyone and their momma travels and gets away with it.

BTW, Ariza didn't travel.