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2014 49ers Salaries, As of 9/8/14, The 49ers are $5,025,814 under the '14 Cap

Originally posted by GORO:
AB81Rules, Looking at 2015 and beyond cap space how would the 49ers structure a contract for Crabtree to retain him?

Probably similar to his current deal. Some form of a per game roster bonuses, workout bonuses, probably a $10M signing bonus seems fair(I wouldn't be surprised if he does re-sign, and takes a $7.5M signing bonus, like others have).

But I don't know if it happens anytime soon. But I would expect them to backload it a bit in 2017 and 2018, depending on whether it's a 5yr or 6yr deal.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by Strwy2Hevn:
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Another update coming soon...

If your referring to Kap's new deal he shouldn't effect 14 cap. He got an extention. AB correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah updated it the other day. I have them at $5.1M, NFLPA has them at $5.7M, not sure where I'm off by $600K. But it's close enough,, might be an additional credit applied to the team.

Hopefully we just roll over this remaining 5 mil for 2015.
[ Edited by SFrush on Jul 14, 2014 at 8:45 PM ]
AB - How come Joe Staley is so underpaid compared to other offensive tackles? Did he get a large signing bonus up front that has resulted him being outside a top 10 paid tackle?

http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/tackle/
Originally posted by THEMerts80:
AB - How come Joe Staley is so underpaid compared to other offensive tackles? Did he get a large signing bonus up front that has resulted him being outside a top 10 paid tackle?

http://www.spotrac.com/rankings/nfl/tackle/

At the time he was one of the highest paid OTs in the NFL. When he signed the deal it included an upfront $12M or so roster bonus, which was paid on the cap all in 2010.

Now that he is extended, I imagine he got his base salary restructured down to the minimum, and converted the rest to a signing bonus, and just added on 2 years.
Something to think of for 2015.

I know I frown on restructures, but I believe Kap will redo his deal next year, or else they would of made it low for 2015, since he could have a $12.4M base if he hits the requirements, which we hope he does. He can lower all the way down to minimum, which would be $745K, create a big $11.655M signing bonus, prorated at $2.331M a year for max of 5 years, saves max of $11.124M in cap room with the restructure. Much needed cap relief. Then I wouldn't see them doing it again, it wouldn't be needed. 2016-2020 is good in cap health wise.
website updated, now around $7.9M under the cap.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Something to think of for 2015.

I know I frown on restructures, but I believe Kap will redo his deal next year, or else they would of made it low for 2015, since he could have a $12.4M base if he hits the requirements, which we hope he does. He can lower all the way down to minimum, which would be $745K, create a big $11.655M signing bonus, prorated at $2.331M a year for max of 5 years, saves max of $11.124M in cap room with the restructure. Much needed cap relief. Then I wouldn't see them doing it again, it wouldn't be needed. 2016-2020 is good in cap health wise.

Could be an awesome way to extend Crabtree & a couple others if needed & put the 49ers in great position to extend others or bring in whatever free agents are needed.
Thank you, Brooks!!!
http://ninercaphell.com/mock-outlook/

My Projection as of July 30th, 2014

53-Man Roster Projection (As of July, 30th, 2014)

QB- 7 Colin Kaepernick / 2 Blaine Gabbert

RB- 21 Frank Gore / 28 Carlos Hyde / 38 Marcus Lattimore / 23 LaMichael James

FB- 49 Bruce Miller

WR- 15 Michael Crabtree / 81 Anquan Boldin / 13 Stevie Johnson / 11 Quinton Patton / 3 Bruce Ellington / 13 Kassim Osgood

TE- 85 Vernon Davis / 89 Vance McDonald / 46 Derek Carrier

C- 67 Daniel Kilgore / 66 Marcus Martin

OG- 77 Mike Iupati(LG) / 75 Alex Boone(RG) / 78 Joe Looney

OT- 74 Joe Staley(LT) / 76 Anthony Davis(RT) / 71 Jonathan Martin

DE- 94 Justin Smith / 91 Ray McDonald / 95 Tank Carradine / 63 Tony Jerod-Eddie / 83 Demarcus Dobbs

NT- 90 Glenn Dorsey / 92 Quinton Dial

OLB- 55 Ahmad Brooks / 96 Corey Lemonier / 51 Dan Skuta / 59 Aaron Lynch

ILB- 52 Patrick Willis / 57 Michael Wilhoite / 50 Chris Borland / — Blake Costanzo

CB- 26 Tramaine Brock / 29 Chris Culliver / 22 Chris Cook / 40 Darryl Morris / 36 Dontae Johnson / 38 Kenneth Acker

FS- 35 Eric Reid / 27 C.J. Spillman

SS- 24 Antoine Bethea / 25 Jimmie Ward / 41 Bubba Ventrone

PK- 9 Phil Dawson P- 4 Andy Lee LS- 47 Kevin McDermott

Reserve Lists:

Suspended:

OLB 99 Aldon Smith

Injured Reserve:

RB 32 Kendall Hunter

OG 64 Fou Fonoti

PUP:

ILB 53 NaVorro Bowman

NFI:

FB 44 Trey Millard

OG 60 Brandon Thomas

CB 31 Keith Reaser

Cuts:

WR 82 Jon Baldwin

QB 5 McLeod Bethel-Thompson

OT 69 Carter Bykowski

SS 45 D.J. Campbell

TE 88 Garrett Celek

TE 45 Asante Cleveland

CB 20 Perrish Cox

FS 43 Craig Dahl

C 63 Dillon Farrell

TE — Kevin Greene

RB 33 Jewel Hampton

WR 17 Chuck Jacobs

QB 1 Josh Johnson

WR 84 Brandon Lloyd

S 46 James McCray

ILB 54 Nick Moody

LS — Kyle Nelson

OG 65 Al Netter

DE 98 Lawrence Okoye

OT — Michael Philipp

NT 64 Michael Purcell

DE 60 Kaleb Ramsey

WR 10 David Reed

P 6 Colton Schmidt

OG 62 Ryan Seymour

ILB 44 Shayne Skov

RB 30 Alfonso Smith

OG 68 Adam Snyder

OLB — Chase Thomas

FB 48 Will Tukuafu

WR 19 Devon Wylie

Cap Outlook:

2014- $5,573,418 (Before the 8 Man Practice Squad, we will also get credits for Aldon Smith suspension, $137,438 per game, and Bowman roster bonus for being on PUP, $46,875 per game missed)

2015- $1,525,559 over the cap, but we can carryover any unused cap room for 2015. Also mentioned that Kap can restructure, and free up between $9 and $11 million in cap room, plus Aldon Smith and Willis with new deals can free up good cap room.

2016- $46,266,973

2017- $76,451,923

2018- $121,821,247

2019- $146,725,000

2020- $168,600,000
You left out Ian Williams. Would he make the cut?


Originally posted by AB81Rules:
http://ninercaphell.com/mock-outlook/

My Projection as of July 30th, 2014

53-Man Roster Projection (As of July, 30th, 2014)

QB- 7 Colin Kaepernick / 2 Blaine Gabbert

RB- 21 Frank Gore / 28 Carlos Hyde / 38 Marcus Lattimore / 23 LaMichael James

FB- 49 Bruce Miller

WR- 15 Michael Crabtree / 81 Anquan Boldin / 13 Stevie Johnson / 11 Quinton Patton / 3 Bruce Ellington / 13 Kassim Osgood

TE- 85 Vernon Davis / 89 Vance McDonald / 46 Derek Carrier

C- 67 Daniel Kilgore / 66 Marcus Martin

OG- 77 Mike Iupati(LG) / 75 Alex Boone(RG) / 78 Joe Looney

OT- 74 Joe Staley(LT) / 76 Anthony Davis(RT) / 71 Jonathan Martin

DE- 94 Justin Smith / 91 Ray McDonald / 95 Tank Carradine / 63 Tony Jerod-Eddie / 83 Demarcus Dobbs

NT- 90 Glenn Dorsey / 92 Quinton Dial

OLB- 55 Ahmad Brooks / 96 Corey Lemonier / 51 Dan Skuta / 59 Aaron Lynch

ILB- 52 Patrick Willis / 57 Michael Wilhoite / 50 Chris Borland / — Blake Costanzo

CB- 26 Tramaine Brock / 29 Chris Culliver / 22 Chris Cook / 40 Darryl Morris / 36 Dontae Johnson / 38 Kenneth Acker

FS- 35 Eric Reid / 27 C.J. Spillman

SS- 24 Antoine Bethea / 25 Jimmie Ward / 41 Bubba Ventrone

PK- 9 Phil Dawson P- 4 Andy Lee LS- 47 Kevin McDermott

Reserve Lists:

Suspended:

OLB 99 Aldon Smith

Injured Reserve:

RB 32 Kendall Hunter

OG 64 Fou Fonoti

PUP:

ILB 53 NaVorro Bowman

NFI:

FB 44 Trey Millard

OG 60 Brandon Thomas

CB 31 Keith Reaser

Cuts:

WR 82 Jon Baldwin

QB 5 McLeod Bethel-Thompson

OT 69 Carter Bykowski

SS 45 D.J. Campbell

TE 88 Garrett Celek

TE 45 Asante Cleveland

CB 20 Perrish Cox

FS 43 Craig Dahl

C 63 Dillon Farrell

TE — Kevin Greene

RB 33 Jewel Hampton

WR 17 Chuck Jacobs

QB 1 Josh Johnson

WR 84 Brandon Lloyd

S 46 James McCray

ILB 54 Nick Moody

LS — Kyle Nelson

OG 65 Al Netter

DE 98 Lawrence Okoye

OT — Michael Philipp

NT 64 Michael Purcell

DE 60 Kaleb Ramsey

WR 10 David Reed

P 6 Colton Schmidt

OG 62 Ryan Seymour

ILB 44 Shayne Skov

RB 30 Alfonso Smith

OG 68 Adam Snyder

OLB — Chase Thomas

FB 48 Will Tukuafu

WR 19 Devon Wylie

Cap Outlook:

2014- $5,573,418 (Before the 8 Man Practice Squad, we will also get credits for Aldon Smith suspension, $137,438 per game, and Bowman roster bonus for being on PUP, $46,875 per game missed)

2015- $1,525,559 over the cap, but we can carryover any unused cap room for 2015. Also mentioned that Kap can restructure, and free up between $9 and $11 million in cap room, plus Aldon Smith and Willis with new deals can free up good cap room.

2016- $46,266,973

2017- $76,451,923

2018- $121,821,247

2019- $146,725,000

2020- $168,600,000
Damn, had him on PUP to start 2014, missed his name.
do you think acker would be plucked if they tried to put him on the ps?
Originally posted by ninergold:
do you think acker would be plucked if they tried to put him on the ps?

I didn't think Cooper would, so anything is possible, maybe if they limit his play, he is less likely to be poached off waivers come end of pre-season.
AB is there a deadline to rollover cap space for 2015?
Originally posted by SFrush:
AB is there a deadline to rollover cap space for 2015?

Has to be in written form before the league year begins I believe. Basically once the season ends, teams have a period to get the written waiver to carryover unused cap space to the next year. Every team does it now. Except 3 teams this year, who actually ended up negative on the cap due to Not Likely To Be Earned Incentives being EARNED, lol.

check this page, http://www.nflplayers.com/cap/ they have the list of every teams cap room, and such. Pay no attention to the near $10M for us, it includes Boone's $2M base which doesn't count until he reports.
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