Originally posted by tohara3:
Absolutely great job NCommand!
I second that emotion.....and emoji!!
Cheers!
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Originally posted by tohara3:
Absolutely great job NCommand!
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Rb is now the #1 need. McKinnon is hot garbage. Definite downgrade.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by TheXFactor:
RB is no longer really a need. Maybe a day 3 pick in the draft.
Yes sir.
Free Agency:
Top Caliber C - Check
Offensive Weapon RB - Check
Potential Lockdown CB - Check
Depth for ER, ST, T, C, LB - Check
Free Agency Left:
Stud FA G (starter)
Linebacker (depth)
CB (depth)
Draft:
ER
LB
CB
T
G
RB
WR
Originally posted by NCommand:
Jimmie Ward passing a physical and cutting him before 1pm PST today could have saved us $8.5M alone.
Originally posted by NCommand:
So if no other Free Agent moves are made, this is where we're at regarding team needs and where we should probably spend that capital in the draft.
CB - There's no guarantee Richard Sherman will regain form. Ahkello got dinged up a bit last year so if he or Sherman can't go, we've got nobody outside save for Jimmie Glass Joe Ward. 1st or 2nd round.
G - We really need two G's here. One should not count on Joshua Garnett in this system and Tomlinson is more proof that 1st round OL don't always pan out. 1st, 2nd and or 3rd.
ER - Marsh replaces Dumervil and Attaochu adds some legit upside. But this is still a massive need. 1st or 2nd.
T - Staley is 33 and Brown is recovering from a torn labrum. It's time to draft and train a top tier T for a year and be proactive. 1st or 2nd.
LB - LB is not as crucial a need with Malcolm Smith back and even Brock Coyle. It already sounds like Pita and Harold will compete at SAM. Could use depth at MIKE or WILL even with Elijah Lee already on the team (FO high on him). 1st, 4th, 5th, or 6th.
WR - Lots of big-bodied ZWR's in this draft. 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th.
RB - Deep draft and need a power RB to take some inside pounding. 3rd, 4th or 5th.
FS - We retained Jimmie Ward and found Adrian Colbert in the 7th. Chancellor James is a promising SS behind Tartt. 5th, 6th or 7th.
1st round | 9th overall - CB,G,ER,T,LB
2nd round | 59th overall (from NO) - CB,G,ER,T
3rd round | 70th overall (from CHI) - G,WR,RB
3rd round | 74th overall - G,WR,RB
4th round | 128th overall (from PIT) - WR,RB,LB
5th round | 143rd overall (from NYJ) - WR,RB,LB,FS
6th round | 184th overall - WR,RB,LB,FS
7th round | 223th overall (from MIA) - WR,RB,FS
7th round | 240th overall (from KC) - WR,RB,FS
Assessment: It looks like a trade back might be the best way to go to help close that big gap between 9 and 59. It's highly unlikely we get premier players at our biggest needs: CB,G,ER,T,LB. But the 3-year rebuild does seem to be right on schedule, if not a year ahead thanks to Jimmy Garropolo.
Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by pasodoc9er:Wow, when you say 2nd round pick and then look at the board, all those many great OGs/Cs and that inccludes those that play both, the bulk of the best are found from 21 (Wynn) to #35 (Braden), with 30( Hernanadez) and #31( Connor Williams) in between and that is where we aren't. I don't think Kyle intends to go thru this season and not fill in those two OG slots. I just don't believe he'd do that. So, we need to massage this a bit, and maybe have a two pronged approach. Design it so that if Nelson falls to 9, we go ahead and take him. Otherwise if not there, we may have to sacrifice a shot at Roquan(who we desperately need) and trade down into 30 (Hernandez) and 35 Braden. We would have to add in one of our 4ths (124) to make it work but we would still be short 33 points...
A lot depends on who exactly Kyle wants. If he wants Wynn, ok then we have to recalibrate. But the idea is to target those 4 guys, 21-35.
At least that is one opinion on how to land two really nice OGs. Then instead of half fixing the OL it and the O are finished. Use #59, 70, 74 for DE, LB, CB., plus the rest of our draft all D.
I hear you doc!
The narrative is that the draft is deep at interior OL but the question is, are we really in position to grab a few (including a T)?
So if we stay pat, who would you pick?
I'm guessing something like this and ideally, we'd do a small trade back and still get our guy.
1st round | 9th overall - ER Harold Landry
2nd round | 59th overall - LT Brian O'Neill
3rd round | 70th overall - G Austin Corbett
3rd round | 74th overall - CB Kevin Tolliver
4th round | 128th overall - WR Marcell Ateman
5th round | 143rd overall - FS Jordan Whitehead
Originally posted by longterm9erfan:Yep, for some reason, ShanaLynch and NCommand pretty much think the same. Weird!
Originally posted by NCommand:
So if no other Free Agent moves are made, this is where we're at regarding team needs and where we should probably spend that capital in the draft.
CB - There's no guarantee Richard Sherman will regain form. Ahkello got dinged up a bit last year so if he or Sherman can't go, we've got nobody outside save for Jimmie Glass Joe Ward. 1st or 2nd round.
G - We really need two G's here. One should not count on Joshua Garnett in this system and Tomlinson is more proof that 1st round OL don't always pan out. 1st, 2nd and or 3rd.
ER - Marsh replaces Dumervil and Attaochu adds some legit upside. But this is still a massive need. 1st or 2nd.
T - Staley is 33 and Brown is recovering from a torn labrum. It's time to draft and train a top tier T for a year and be proactive. 1st or 2nd.
LB - LB is not as crucial a need with Malcolm Smith back and even Brock Coyle. It already sounds like Pita and Harold will compete at SAM. Could use depth at MIKE or WILL even with Elijah Lee already on the team (FO high on him). 1st, 4th, 5th, or 6th.
WR - Lots of big-bodied ZWR's in this draft. 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th.
RB - Deep draft and need a power RB to take some inside pounding. 3rd, 4th or 5th.
FS - We retained Jimmie Ward and found Adrian Colbert in the 7th. Chancellor James is a promising SS behind Tartt. 5th, 6th or 7th.
1st round | 9th overall - CB,G,ER,T,LB
2nd round | 59th overall (from NO) - CB,G,ER,T
3rd round | 70th overall (from CHI) - G,WR,RB
3rd round | 74th overall - G,WR,RB
4th round | 128th overall (from PIT) - WR,RB,LB
5th round | 143rd overall (from NYJ) - WR,RB,LB,FS
6th round | 184th overall - WR,RB,LB,FS
7th round | 223th overall (from MIA) - WR,RB,FS
7th round | 240th overall (from KC) - WR,RB,FS
Assessment: It looks like a trade back might be the best way to go to help close that big gap between 9 and 59. It's highly unlikely we get premier players at our biggest needs: CB,G,ER,T,LB. But the 3-year rebuild does seem to be right on schedule, if not a year ahead thanks to Jimmy Garropolo.
Great post, NC! The Niners should put you in their front office.
Cheers!
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Wow, when you say 2nd round pick and then look at the board, all those many great OGs/Cs and that inccludes those that play both, the bulk of the best are found from 21 (Wynn) to #35 (Braden), with 30( Hernanadez) and #31( Connor Williams) in between and that is where we aren't. I don't think Kyle intends to go thru this season and not fill in those two OG slots. I just don't believe he'd do that. So, we need to massage this a bit, and maybe have a two pronged approach. Design it so that if Nelson falls to 9, we go ahead and take him. Otherwise if not there, we may have to sacrifice a shot at Roquan(who we desperately need) and trade down into 30 (Hernandez) and 35 Braden. We would have to add in one of our 4ths (124) to make it work but we would still be short 33 points...
A lot depends on who exactly Kyle wants. If he wants Wynn, ok then we have to recalibrate. But the idea is to target those 4 guys, 21-35.
At least that is one opinion on how to land two really nice OGs. Then instead of half fixing the OL it and the O are finished. Use #59, 70, 74 for DE, LB, CB., plus the rest of our draft all D.
I hear you doc!
The narrative is that the draft is deep at interior OL but the question is, are we really in position to grab a few (including a T)?
So if we stay pat, who would you pick?
I'm guessing something like this and ideally, we'd do a small trade back and still get our guy.
1st round | 9th overall - ER Harold Landry
2nd round | 59th overall - LT Brian O'Neill or LB insurance for Reuben.
3rd round | 70th overall - G Austin Corbett
3rd round | 74th overall - CB Kevin Tolliver
4th round | 128th overall - WR Marcell Ateman
5th round | 143rd overall - FS Jordan Whitehead
Originally posted by illinois9er:Based on those rankings I'd be stoked with:
Roquan Smith
Mike Gesicki
Brian O'Neill
Rashaad Penny
Marcell Ateman or Kemoko Turay
Dorance Armstrong or Deon Cain
Originally posted by Giedi:Great post, and the only thing I'd quibble about is 2nd 4round/59th overall - LT Brian O'Neill -- personally I think they will choose another LB as insurance for Reuben here.
Originally posted by longterm9erfan:Originally posted by NCommand:Jimmie Ward passing a physical and cutting him before 1pm PST today could have saved us $8.5M alone.
I found that very interesting too. The Niners must really like Jimmie Ward or they would have cut him. He does provide depth and he could even start at CB or FS so he is valuable....if he can stay healthy that is.
Originally posted by longterm9erfan:Great post, NC! The Niners should put you in their front office.
Cheers!
Originally posted by Giedi:Yep, for some reason, ShanaLynch and NCommand pretty much think the same. Weird!
Originally posted by NCommand:I see a return of the wham block!
Laken Tomlinson vs. Aaron Donald
Joshua Garnett vs. Ndamukong Suh
Yeah.
Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by Giedi:Great post, and the only thing I'd quibble about is 2nd 4round/59th overall - LT Brian O'Neill -- personally I think they will choose another LB as insurance for Reuben here.
Right? Who you got at LB there though?