Originally posted by jcs:
What paraag and jedy now have is a great yes man.
Meh. I don't see Lynch as a yes man in anyway. I think with the right personnel guy he could do do a very good job.
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Originally posted by jcs:
What paraag and jedy now have is a great yes man.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I panicked as soon as I heard that Lynch was the new GM, a guy with no scouting or executive background but based on what is being reported, the 49ers appear to be copying the Denver Broncos model for a front office. The same way that John Elway is the frontman for the organization but has others doing the bulk of the personnel work it sounds like Lynch will be the front man but will be having others doing much of the personnel duties. His role almost sounds like the Vice President of Football Operations position that people have long been hoping that this franchise would get. In that role, Lynch starts to make a bit more sense.
The way Denver has their front office setup
John Elway- Executive Vice President of Football Operations/General Manager
Matt Russell-Director of Player Personnel
Mike Sullivan-Director of Football Administration
With the 49ers it sounds like it will be:
John Lynch-GM
?????(Mark Dominik?) as Head of Player Personnel
Tom Gamble as Head of Pro Personnel
Marathe handling contracts + the salary cap.
Definitely an unorthodox setup but at least I can see some of the logic in it. I guess it depends entirely on how you feel about Dominik or whoever Lynch brings in to handle the bulk of the personnel duties. I can see Lynch being the representative of the team at press conferences, meeting with free agents, handling other public appearances while most of the personnel work is done by the people under him and Marathe maintains his current role of salary cap plus contracts.
You would also have a lot of symmetry if its Dominik. Lynch played with the Bucs while Dominik was in the Tampa front office. Lynch played under Mike Shanahan and is said to be extremely close to the Shanahans, he supposedly called up Kyle and offered to be his GM. Kyle was in Tampa while Dominik was in the front office as well so at least at first glance there shouldn't be any major tension between the front office and the coaching staff, things should work pretty smoothly.
Its an interesting approach, either Jed and Marathe will look like geniuses or this franchise will be an even bigger disaster.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
ok. nice structure. how about hiring people with experience for the roles. is that too much to ask.
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Per source new 49ers G.M. John Lynch will hire a personnel specialist as his No. 2. He already knows who it will be.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Better than it was before. Lynch+a quality personnel guy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Baalke.
This is what a lot of people asked for and I'm kind of shocked that Jed went for it. They have a real honest to goodness football guy in the front office, someone that played under Bill Walsh, Denny Green, Jon Gruden, Mike Shanahan, Tony Dungy and Bill Belichick. A HOF caliber player that knows how a proper football organization should be run.
As long as he picks a quality personnel guy, I can see this being a big plus.
Originally posted by smithgdwg:
The 49ers front office structure
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:ok. nice structure. how about hiring people with experience for the roles. is that too much to ask.
What experienced vice president of football operations would you have hired? Because that is essentially what Lynch's role will be. Its expected that he will bring in an experienced personnel exec.
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Per source new 49ers G.M. John Lynch will hire a personnel specialist as his No. 2. He already knows who it will be.
Originally posted by midrdan:To me, the hire was a definite separation attempt. York is removing himself as the "face" of the franchise. Get a guy that is good with the media, that has impeccable character, high football IQ and contacts throughout the NFL and let him be the face of the football operations. Kyle will have control over the personnel - he is going to demand adding players he needs for his system. Get Dominick to scout those players and work within Kyle's philosophy.
All in all, I am totally good with this move. People upset about not adding Ballard or whatever ... guys, since when did we, the 49ers, look to other teams' scraps? We wanted a WCO philosophy - no more Parcells disciples - we got it. We have 4-5 years to see this develop. Stop complaining and root for success.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Better than it was before. Lynch+a monkey throwing darts at names>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Baalke.
Originally posted by LottDMontanaO:Originally posted by midrdan:To me, the hire was a definite separation attempt. York is removing himself as the "face" of the franchise. Get a guy that is good with the media, that has impeccable character, high football IQ and contacts throughout the NFL and let him be the face of the football operations. Kyle will have control over the personnel - he is going to demand adding players he needs for his system. Get Dominick to scout those players and work within Kyle's philosophy.
All in all, I am totally good with this move. People upset about not adding Ballard or whatever ... guys, since when did we, the 49ers, look to other teams' scraps? We wanted a WCO philosophy - no more Parcells disciples - we got it. We have 4-5 years to see this develop. Stop complaining and root for success.
Good post. The first paragraph is just how I'm thinking the front office structure will look like - we'll have football guys all the way through with Lynch as the face as you mention. And, Mike giving advice to his son Kyle occasionally as he'll be a first-time HC. More football guys throughout to get this franchise back on track.
Originally posted by jcs:Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Better than it was before. Lynch+a quality personnel guy>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Baalke.
This is what a lot of people asked for and I'm kind of shocked that Jed went for it. They have a real honest to goodness football guy in the front office, someone that played under Bill Walsh, Denny Green, Jon Gruden, Mike Shanahan, Tony Dungy and Bill Belichick. A HOF caliber player that knows how a proper football organization should be run.
As long as he picks a quality personnel guy, I can see this being a big plus.
What paraag and jedy now have is a great yes man.