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Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
I only caught a bit of it but what did they get into it about? They are such condescending pricks

At the 9:30 mark. Murph asking why Blaine doesn't throw deep. Chip replies with, "Did you watch the game or were you watching baseball?" Then the back and forth begins.
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
I only caught a bit of it but what did they get into it about? They are such condescending pricks

At the 9:30 mark. Murph asking why Blaine doesn't throw deep. Chip replies with, "Did you watch the game or were you watching baseball?" Then the back and forth begins.

LMAO! Go Chip, go!

They were watching either baseball or Raider highlights on ESPN. Those two are the most uninformed guys on radio. It's embarrassing they are associated with the Niners on ANY level.
Originally posted by 49erphan:
Yeah, it's not that he never has set his feet set well, but there are too many times when he doesn't do that. On rewatching the game one of the things I focused on was Gabbert's footwork on passes. There were a fair number of passes where he had his feet planted well and pointed the right way when he released the pass and on most of those the throw was generally pretty good, but almost every time he didn't do that his passes were poor. It seemed to me that when Gabbert was "hopping" while looking for a throw that first his back foot tends to come down and then followed by his front foot. I wonder if it would be better for him to try to bounce and land on both feet more at the same time. I'm not sure but it seemed like he was doing that staggered landing on his feet thing because it makes it easier to take off running when he thinks there are no open receivers and he needs to bail out.

Exactly...quality assessment. Another example was the Kerley miss. You'll see him completely lift his back foot off the ground WHILE he was throwing, hence the overthrow. Had he set that back foot and not rushed the throw, it was a TD whether he threw it at 2.0 seconds or 2.5.
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
He should opt for Xanax. Never understood how Ritalin made people calm down. It was like taking speed whenever I tried it

If you have ADD or ADHD, stimulants such as Ritalin and Adderall actually calm you down and help you focus better.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Sep 14, 2016 at 9:26 AM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
He should opt for Xanax. Never understood how Ritalin made people calm down. It was like taking speed whenever I tried it

If you have ADD or ADHD, stimulants such as Ritalin and Adderall actually calm you down.

Like how taking viagra if your healthy is dangerous.
Originally posted by 49erphan:
Yeah, it's not that he never has set his feet set well, but there are too many times when he doesn't do that. On rewatching the game one of the things I focused on was Gabbert's footwork on passes. There were a fair number of passes where he had his feet planted well and pointed the right way when he released the pass and on most of those the throw was generally pretty good, but almost every time he didn't do that his passes were poor. It seemed to me that when Gabbert was "hopping" while looking for a throw that first his back foot tends to come down and then followed by his front foot. I wonder if it would be better for him to try to bounce and land on both feet more at the same time. I'm not sure but it seemed like he was doing that staggered landing on his feet thing because it makes it easier to take off running when he thinks there are no open receivers and he needs to bail out.

This. Its like when Kaepernick would throw a perfectly placed short throw and everyone would jump all over it and be like "SEE, SEE!!!!" There are plenty of times that Gabbert sets his feet well when he throws the football but there's also a lot of times where his feet are still moving as he's throwing and for him, that is when his accuracy, especially downfield, really goes south.
Originally posted by Jcool:
To many arm chair QB experts in this thread








But it was Blaine Gabbert where Cosell's good grades stopped.

"He missed a lot of throws and he still plays fast. And what happens when you play fast… I mean I forget when it happened in the game, it was the first quarter when he missed (Jeremy) Kerley on an over route and he did not have any pressure," Cosell said. "It was a well-designed play call, Kerley was wide open, and he rushes himself. He plays fast and therefore his feet are not set. And he misses a lot of throws because of that. Even on some of the completions, the ball placement is not what it should be. He's going to have to play better, I think, for this team to be better offensively. He was very, very erratic in this game




"Ultimately, what you're looking at is a quarterback that has some positive traits and always teases because he's got a live arm and he has light feet and moves well -- so he teases," Greg Cosell said on KNBR 680-AM on Wednesday morning.


"One thing that really stood out when I watched him (Blaine Gabbert) at Missouri, even though the sample size was small because of all the shotgun one-step drop stuff, was the small sample of throws in which there were bodies around him, he was very poor," Cosell told SFR on Gabbert. "That has translated to the NFL. You guys watch every game I'm sure as I do, and when the bodies are around him and the pocket starts collapsing and he's in the cauldron of fire... he can't play."
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
I only caught a bit of it but what did they get into it about? They are such condescending pricks

At the 9:30 mark. Murph asking why Blaine doesn't throw deep. Chip replies with, "Did you watch the game or were you watching baseball?" Then the back and forth begins.

Lol that's classic .
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Lol that's classic .

Why do they have such dicks on the media in the Bay Area? Out here you turn on the radio and a quarter of the lineup of the main sports talk radio station's hosts are former Cardinals players and thus very deferential to the team. The other shows will rip teams but they generally tend to be pretty low-key about it.
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:




But it was Blaine Gabbert where Cosell's good grades stopped.

"He missed a lot of throws and he still plays fast. And what happens when you play fast… I mean I forget when it happened in the game, it was the first quarter when he missed (Jeremy) Kerley on an over route and he did not have any pressure," Cosell said. "It was a well-designed play call, Kerley was wide open, and he rushes himself. He plays fast and therefore his feet are not set. And he misses a lot of throws because of that. Even on some of the completions, the ball placement is not what it should be. He's going to have to play better, I think, for this team to be better offensively. He was very, very erratic in this game




"Ultimately, what you're looking at is a quarterback that has some positive traits and always teases because he's got a live arm and he has light feet and moves well -- so he teases," Greg Cosell said on KNBR 680-AM on Wednesday morning.


"One thing that really stood out when I watched him (Blaine Gabbert) at Missouri, even though the sample size was small because of all the shotgun one-step drop stuff, was the small sample of throws in which there were bodies around him, he was very poor," Cosell told SFR on Gabbert. "That has translated to the NFL. You guys watch every game I'm sure as I do, and when the bodies are around him and the pocket starts collapsing and he's in the cauldron of fire... he can't play."






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Exactly pretty much the same thoughts I had.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
He should opt for Xanax. Never understood how Ritalin made people calm down. It was like taking speed whenever I tried it

If you have ADD or ADHD, stimulants such as Ritalin and Adderall actually calm you down and help you focus better.

Yeah, the only time I took that stuff was in college when I was in classes. my buddy I had my Sr thesis course with said it would help me focus and make class much more enjoyable. I was hyper focused but I also felt like I was grinding my teeth to nubs....then I wanted it for every class lol. So maybe it does work.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Lol that's classic .

Why do they have such dicks on the media in the Bay Area? Out here you turn on the radio and a quarter of the lineup of the main sports talk radio station's hosts are former Cardinals players and thus very deferential to the team. The other shows will rip teams but they generally tend to be pretty low-key about it.

They mainly only rip the 49ers. There's something there with York/Baalke and the Bay Area Media.
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Originally posted by susweel:
Exactly pretty much the same thoughts I had.

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by 49erphan:
Yeah, it's not that he never has set his feet set well, but there are too many times when he doesn't do that. On rewatching the game one of the things I focused on was Gabbert's footwork on passes. There were a fair number of passes where he had his feet planted well and pointed the right way when he released the pass and on most of those the throw was generally pretty good, but almost every time he didn't do that his passes were poor. It seemed to me that when Gabbert was "hopping" while looking for a throw that first his back foot tends to come down and then followed by his front foot. I wonder if it would be better for him to try to bounce and land on both feet more at the same time. I'm not sure but it seemed like he was doing that staggered landing on his feet thing because it makes it easier to take off running when he thinks there are no open receivers and he needs to bail out.

This. Its like when Kaepernick would throw a perfectly placed short throw and everyone would jump all over it and be like "SEE, SEE!!!!" There are plenty of times that Gabbert sets his feet well when he throws the football but there's also a lot of times where his feet are still moving as he's throwing and for him, that is when his accuracy, especially downfield, really goes south.

The good news is this is very correctable...esp. now with a consistently good pass blocking OL. But it won't happen over night. Mechanics are typically ground more in confidence than anything. And there's a chance he never corrects it too.
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