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WR miss fireing or QB fault
Aug 21, 2016 at 7:18 AM
- Blindfury
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Gabbert isn't really looking downfield. He is looking for his TE, if he's covered, he's going to the RB's. The WR is not involved. No receiver is getting 1000+ with this QB. But McDonald and to a lesser extent Celek will have career years.
Aug 21, 2016 at 7:49 AM
- vermonator
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Yeah, our receivers aren't very good. Torrey Smith is the best one we have and he's really a number 2 type, maybe even a 3rd receiver on a better roster.
When you're GM has a hard time selecting skill positions, like receiver, your team will have deficiencies, just like the 49ers. Baalke knows defense, and seems to be good at stocking up on the meat and potato positions, but man, he is just straight up stupid when it comes to drafting receivers.
When you're GM has a hard time selecting skill positions, like receiver, your team will have deficiencies, just like the 49ers. Baalke knows defense, and seems to be good at stocking up on the meat and potato positions, but man, he is just straight up stupid when it comes to drafting receivers.
Aug 21, 2016 at 7:59 AM
- Blindfury
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It's funny because when I said Torrey was a #2 at best I got pooped on. Our receivers are not all that good, but the QB isn't even looking at them. Rewatch the games, dude is looking at the TE all the way.
We haven't had a #1 in such a long time, when does the GM take some blame for that?
We haven't had a #1 in such a long time, when does the GM take some blame for that?
[ Edited by Blindfury on Aug 21, 2016 at 8:00 AM ]
Aug 21, 2016 at 8:05 AM
- walker807
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The whining in this thread is strong
Aug 21, 2016 at 8:11 AM
- FredFlintstone
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Originally posted by walker807:The whining in this thread is strong
Dude our wrs seriously suck, no one is whining when they say that. This team needs to draft at least 2 in the top 4 rounds and one of them should be in the 1st depending where we pick or in the 2nd
Aug 21, 2016 at 8:15 AM
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Originally posted by walker807:
The whining in this thread is strong
Hey Luke, if you're content with this roster, kudos to you. We still can have success with the receivers we have, but till I see consistent production from that position group I'm gonna keep whining.
May the force be with you, always....
Aug 21, 2016 at 8:30 AM
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Good QBs make everyone around them look better. If you dont have a good QB you'd better have a Top 5 WR.
The 49ers QBs are mediocre at best. They dont have a true #1 WR, let alone a Top 5 guy.
I would edit this just a little Phoenix...
I'd say if you don't have a good QB, you'd better have a great OL. Any QB with time will hit an open receiver. There are OLs that make some really average QB look like world beaters.
Every championship team has had a superior offensive line, that's a fact. Our offensive line is pretty decent right now, and will only get better, it's on the QB and receivers to start making things happen.
Aug 21, 2016 at 8:30 AM
- Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by Blindfury:It's funny because when I said Torrey was a #2 at best I got pooped on. Our receivers are not all that good, but the QB isn't even looking at them. Rewatch the games, dude is looking at the TE all the way.
We haven't had a #1 in such a long time, when does the GM take some blame for that?
Never, To Some he is the Teflon Don. He can do no wrong. Blame Harbaugh for not making Jenkins great.
[ Edited by Wu-5Rings on Aug 21, 2016 at 8:35 AM ]
Aug 21, 2016 at 8:39 AM
- Blindfury
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Originally posted by NinerGM:
Do you actually know what the play is requiring him to do? Do you know in pre-season is Chip is trying to evaluate his TEs first because he knows he has weakness in skill set at WR? I'm not trying to antagonize here, but you're speaking as if you're a position coach on the team and in meetings and know what's being asked of the QB from play to play.
Everyone seems to know the play when "you know who" is QB though. Blaine was not throwing to receivers last year either.
Aug 21, 2016 at 8:53 AM
- Constantine
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Good QBs make everyone around them look better. If you dont have a good QB you'd better have a Top 5 WR.
The 49ers QBs are mediocre at best. They dont have a true #1 WR, let alone a Top 5 guy.
yup
Aug 21, 2016 at 9:00 AM
- pdizo916
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It takes a couple of seasons for a QB to develop a rapport with their receivers. That's why our passing game looks clunky. But with that said, we have NO talent at WR or QB, so ultimately the man upstairs is to blame for this fiasco.
Aug 21, 2016 at 9:02 AM
- Wu-5Rings
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Originally posted by NinerGM:Originally posted by Wu-5Rings:Never, To Some he is the Teflon Don. He can do no wrong. Blame Harbaugh for not making Jenkins great.
Aug 21, 2016 at 9:03 AM
- socalniner
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No worries when the gamelan is to run the football.
Aug 21, 2016 at 9:16 AM
- IHATELOWELLCOHN
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Yeah Baalke's has a shortcoming when it comes to eyeing talent at the WR position. The bigger question is if he knows that which he should by now then why hasn't he traded for an impact WR they have definitely had the picks the last few years to get one? That is what is unacceptable to me but remember he would have taken Beckham if he was there that year so maybe he's not as bad as we think.Also remember boys these WRs all of them are so young and to say they aren't very good isn't fair when we still don't know what we have. After QB WR is the second hardest position to develop and when you are challenged at the QB position that isn't exactly going to speed up their development.
I still think we may have something in Dres, Aaron, Bryce and Ellington if he can stay healthy. How good can they be is anyone's guess at this point but it doesn't change the fact they should have gone out and gotten someone established. Unless the plan is establish what you have with the young guys this year so you know what to draft for and how high next year. Still think they should trade for Gordon.
I still think we may have something in Dres, Aaron, Bryce and Ellington if he can stay healthy. How good can they be is anyone's guess at this point but it doesn't change the fact they should have gone out and gotten someone established. Unless the plan is establish what you have with the young guys this year so you know what to draft for and how high next year. Still think they should trade for Gordon.
Aug 21, 2016 at 9:19 AM
- walker807
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Originally posted by IHATELOWELLCOHN:Yeah Baalke's has a shortcoming when it comes to eyeing talent at the WR position. The bigger question is if he knows that which he should by now then why hasn't he traded for an impact WR they have definitely had the picks the last few years to get one? That is what is unacceptable to me but remember he would have taken Beckham if he was there that year so maybe he's not as bad as we think.Also remember boys these WRs all of them are so young and to say they aren't very good isn't fair when we still don't know what we have. After QB WR is the second hardest position to develop and when you are challenged at the QB position that isn't exactly going to speed up their development.
I still think we may have something in Dres, Aaron, Bryce and Ellington if he can stay healthy. How good can they be is anyone's guess at this point but it doesn't change the fact they should have gone out and gotten someone established. Unless the plan is establish what you have with the young guys this year so you know what to draft for and how high next year. Still think they should trade for Gordon.
He pulled off one of the most lopsided trades for a WR out of any active GM right now
Boldin for a 6th.
Baalke sucks so hard