"This offense, I think personally, is easy to learn, once you get it down," tight end Garrett Celek said. "There's a reason we can go so fast. It's a simple offense. Once it clicks, we can just go, go, go."
And the reason, Celek said, it is easy is because there are no longer lengthy verbal descriptions of the play calls transmitted to the quarterback, who, in the past, would relay the message to the other 10 players in the huddle. Now, there is no huddle, as all players immediately look to the sideline as the play is communicated through a variety of signals.
"The biggest thing with learning a new offense is speeding it up," Celek said. "If you have to think a lot, you're going to slow down. So once you figure everything out, everyone can move faster and make plays."
The 49ers' offensive tempo is much faster, even in practice. It's not that the 49ers are doing more running during their workouts. But there is less time between plays for a player to catch his breath.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/new-49ers-offense-leaves-players-speechless/
No more huddle every player looks to the sideline and reads hand signals and then lines up.
Celek said the big concern though. It's a simpler offense. Much easier for defenses to figure out.
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May 5, 2016 at 8:41 AM
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May 5, 2016 at 9:04 AM
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Originally posted by BillWalshField:
Celek said the big concern though. It's a simpler offense. Much easier for defenses to figure out.
That is where the precision part comes in. Execute with precision and you'll be fine, otherwise better defenses will eat your lunch.
Its like the Colts of the 00's, what they ran on offense was fairly simple but with Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne...etc....they executed at such at a high level that their offense was still extremely difficult to stop.
May 5, 2016 at 9:06 AM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:same with the Patriots
Originally posted by BillWalshField:
Celek said the big concern though. It's a simpler offense. Much easier for defenses to figure out.
That is where the precision part comes in. Execute with precision and you'll be fine, otherwise better defenses will eat your lunch.
Its like the Colts of the 00's, what they ran on offense was fairly simple but with Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne...etc....they executed at such at a high level that their offense was still extremely difficult to stop.
May 5, 2016 at 9:10 AM
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oh boy here we go
May 5, 2016 at 9:11 AM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by BillWalshField:
Celek said the big concern though. It's a simpler offense. Much easier for defenses to figure out.
That is where the precision part comes in. Execute with precision and you'll be fine, otherwise better defenses will eat your lunch.
Its like the Colts of the 00's, what they ran on offense was fairly simple but with Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne...etc....they executed at such at a high level that their offense was still extremely difficult to stop.
He's really not introducing any concepts that these guys haven't seen. It's a ton of WCO passing concepts. Playing at his tempo is gonna be the key.
May 5, 2016 at 9:15 AM
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we better pick up a backup punter. ASAP
May 5, 2016 at 9:20 AM
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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Originally posted by BillWalshField:
Celek said the big concern though. It's a simpler offense. Much easier for defenses to figure out.
That is where the precision part comes in. Execute with precision and you'll be fine, otherwise better defenses will eat your lunch.
Its like the Colts of the 00's, what they ran on offense was fairly simple but with Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne...etc....they executed at such at a high level that their offense was still extremely difficult to stop.
I posted this on another Kelly thread, but I thought it belongs here as well. I assembled a sampling of passing concepts I've seen in the breakdowns of Chip's offense. The sources of this list are breakdowns I found on line, video clips and an outstanding breakdown by jonnydel done on a couple of philly games. It'll been interesting to see how Chip's passing game comes a long. Here is the list so far:
-spot trail
-drive trail/hammer
-speedo
-verts
-shallow cross
-slide
-sticks
-scissors
-mesh
-curl flat
-dagger
-deep cross
-curls/Hank
-spot
-mills
-spacing
-double slants/posts
-levels
-sucker
-package/bubble
-slip screen
May 5, 2016 at 9:34 AM
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Interesting what Torrey Smith had to say about the uptempo. He said (paraphrasing) that because they no longer have to jog back and forth to the huddle, receiving the play right on the line, that they get a chance to catch their breath that way. Little issues that the players are noticing, and liking about this offense.
May 5, 2016 at 9:39 AM
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Originally posted by mojave45:the quick 3 and outs will also allow them to rest. can't wait.
Interesting what Torrey Smith had to say about the uptempo. He said (paraphrasing) that because they no longer have to jog back and forth to the huddle, receiving the play right on the line, that they get a chance to catch their breath that way. Little issues that the players are noticing, and liking about this offense.
May 5, 2016 at 9:42 AM
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Mike Davis said he loves this offense too.
As Niners816 noted above, the OFFENSE isn't simple but the process for calling the plays has been streamlined to simplified signals on the sidelines. The play calls have all the WCO plays and many other elements for today's game.
As Niners816 noted above, the OFFENSE isn't simple but the process for calling the plays has been streamlined to simplified signals on the sidelines. The play calls have all the WCO plays and many other elements for today's game.
May 5, 2016 at 9:42 AM
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His playbook contains everything needed to bust all the different coverages, in somewhat a bare minimum kind of way. Like Celek said, it's a simple offense in terms of volume, but with a simple playbook comes the ability to speed up the pace. I've read that Chip likes to practice a limited number of plays, as many times as possible within a practice.
For example, on the whiteboard, the Levels concept beats Cover2. So perfect the execution of Levels, and whenever the offense sees Cover2, it will beat it because the execution is perfect. Drag routes beat man coverage. We will see a lot of drag routes in Chip's offense and it must be hit with pinpoint accuracy so the WR doesn't have to break stride. Like Phoenix stated, it's about execution of a limited number of plays, at the highest level. The big drawback to all this is that there is player testimony that in the later stages of a game, defenses are able to key onto formations and know what play they are about to see.
For example, on the whiteboard, the Levels concept beats Cover2. So perfect the execution of Levels, and whenever the offense sees Cover2, it will beat it because the execution is perfect. Drag routes beat man coverage. We will see a lot of drag routes in Chip's offense and it must be hit with pinpoint accuracy so the WR doesn't have to break stride. Like Phoenix stated, it's about execution of a limited number of plays, at the highest level. The big drawback to all this is that there is player testimony that in the later stages of a game, defenses are able to key onto formations and know what play they are about to see.
May 5, 2016 at 9:47 AM
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Originally posted by thl408:
The big drawback to all this is that there is player testimony that in the later stages of a game, defenses are able to key onto formations and know what play they are about to see.
This NOW this an interesting point and it makes a ton of sense. Hopefully, in order for the defender to see and recognize what's coming by late in the game, it's b/c the offense has had so much success with it it's a moot point (i.e the game's already over). Or "mute" point if you aren't hearing that.
May 5, 2016 at 9:47 AM
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When Chip was being rumored to the 49ers, my biggest concern was that NFL defenses don't fall for simple playbooks, run at a fast pace. So much film study before and during the game allows defenses to key what Chip's offense is doing. I talked myself out of this concern because Chip is an innovator and is always looking for ways to stay a leg up. If he comes into SF doing exactly what he did in PHI, the offense isn't going to yield good results imo. Maybe against bad defenses they will have success, but not against good ones. In the PHI at SF game in 2014, Bethea was on record saying he knew what plays were coming.
May 5, 2016 at 9:50 AM
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Originally posted by thl408:
His playbook contains everything needed to bust all the different coverages, in somewhat a bare minimum kind of way. Like Celek said, it's a simple offense in terms of volume, but with a simple playbook comes the ability to speed up the pace. I've read that Chip likes to practice a limited number of plays, as many times as possible within a practice.
For example, on the whiteboard, the Levels concept beats Cover2. So perfect the execution of Levels, and whenever the offense sees Cover2, it will beat it because the execution is perfect. Drag routes beat man coverage. We will see a lot of drag routes in Chip's offense and it must be hit with pinpoint accuracy so the WR doesn't have to break stride. Like Phoenix stated, it's about execution of a limited number of plays, at the highest level. The big drawback to all this is that there is player testimony that in the later stages of a game, defenses are able to key onto formations and know what play they are about to see.
Hopefully by this time, we are already up in scores and it's all about running the ball and playaction passes.
May 5, 2016 at 9:50 AM
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Originally posted by ChazBoner:just can not have a nice discussion on any aspect of our team can we?
Originally posted by mojave45:the quick 3 and outs will also allow them to rest. can't wait.
Interesting what Torrey Smith had to say about the uptempo. He said (paraphrasing) that because they no longer have to jog back and forth to the huddle, receiving the play right on the line, that they get a chance to catch their breath that way. Little issues that the players are noticing, and liking about this offense.