Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Ok, I said we had a floor of 6 Ws, but I wouldn't comment on # Ws. In response to the posited 10 Ws, I have no idea what we will W. But it will be significantly more than what the HC-less 2015 Niners won. Here is a way that those 10 Ws could be won....
Ws
Rams
Dallas
Bills
Tampa
Saints
Dolphins
Bears
Jets
FAlcons
Rams
That would mean we wouldn't beat PATs, SEA twice, nor Cards. We would beat LA twice with a rook QB, who needs a yr on the bench to become NFL QB worthy. Some of these teams had losing records, some were 8-8 and some had winning records.
That doesn't mean I think we will all the games above. I am just proposing a way it might be done. And could we win one from AZ? Yes. Could we win one from SEA? Wiht the loss of 4 all pros or top flite talent....yes. Unlikely but yes. So there might be another 2 Ws, but more likely Ws to take the place of 2 Ls in the 10 team W column.
I am still down as a minimum 6 Ws. But do I think we could win 10? Yes, and not by stretching the imagination too much. This is just one way it could go down. So 10 Ws isn't all that far fetched. Making fun of the OP on this W/L guess is fine....point is, he very well could be right.
I wasn't the one who posted we'd have 10 Ws and I am on record as seeing 6. One thing NOT said in the above is, if we somehow, should manage to win the 10 above, we definitely are NOT a playoff team, and anything resembling a playoff win is fantasy. What I meant to have added is that if we really went gangbusters and smoked thru everyone's expectations, our reward would be picking once again well after #15 and certainly not #7, say around #20. In other words, if everything fell in place for 10 Ws(and I do NOT believe that will happen), then all we do is cut ourselves out of the draft pick slot we truly were meant to be in.
In other words, you are penalized for ending up higher than predicted, and there is no glory in that. If 10 Ws should happen, only result is we are screwed in 2017 draft. Yes I believe we should play to win, maximal effort. But ending up higher in standings at end of yr just penalizes the team in the upcoming draft. Rather than a record, what I hope we shoot for this yr is to once and for all, find out what is sitting on that bench, and any dead wood should be cut out. I understand Trent carrying IR guys from yr to yr, hoping they will improve with practice and age, but am not if favor of continuing the practice into a second yr. And the Harbaw penchant for playing vets only, with no idea what his pine sitters can do, frankly is foolish and detrimental to the team. In a way it helps set up the massive player losses that occurred at end of 2014. Had he been playing other subs in rotation, the fall off in O and D would not have been anywhere near as precipitous.
What I would really like to see as an end point goal, is to have all members of the squad thoroughly vetted and know what each and every one can/can't do. Also have the entire team on the same page on O and D. No more of this stupidity...."this D is so difficult, it takes TWO yrs to learn." If we finish the 2016 season and someone says that about our O or D, then this will be a lost yr. A reasonable goal this yr would be a) to know exactly what each and every player has to offer, and b) every player is very capable of playing and completely knowing his position. If we were to accomplish those goals, it would be a successful yr. As for the record? Nah, I'd like to see us do better than we are projected, but really am more interested in knowing exactly what we have at yrs end at every position. For a change, it would be nice to go into draft, KNOWING exactly what we have....and exactly what we need.
In summary, if it comes down to winning an extra game or two vs getting a questionable CB or WR or ILB some playing time, I would hope we go with playing time. Not advocating intentionally throwing games away, just favoring knowing exactly what we have on the bench.