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Mar 12, 2016 at 7:22 AM

joaosoarrs99
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Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
At least extend Lynch with some of that money, do something productive with it.

He still has 2 full years on his contract. There's no need to extend he now.

Mar 12, 2016 at 7:25 AM

dj43
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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SteveYoung:
It's really hard to grade.

Keeping Ian Williams was the biggest priority. Dawson was resigned too. We extended Dial who looks to be an up and coming player.

Thad Lewis may not count as a player but he will offer experience in Kellys system and act as a coach for whoever our coach is.

We were after Sean Smith and he chose to go to Oakland. No other corners are worth that money. We were after Sweezy but he got a rediculous contract in TB. Apparently we are interested in Larsen, Dunbar, Okung and Laurinitis too.

Baalke has been trying but Im glad he hasn't shelled out contracts like the guys have been getting. Most of these guys will be cut in a few years anyways because they will be busts.

Do what we did in 2011. Extend/keep our own players. We extended McDonald and Gore in 11 and Williams and Dial this year. We got bargains in Whitner, Rogers, Goodwin and Edwards in 11 after the madness calmed down. I expect Baalke to do the same this year.

We also locked up Celek too.

Internal Signings = A (we locked up all the internal guys we wanted plus a top tier player in Ian and got a couple "systems guys")
Market = C (we lost Boone and while Tiller is better we're down a starting OL now and lost out on all the top young G's)
Image = F (Omar Ruiz was assigned to cover our moves for 2 days because it was believed we'd be active with the 2nd most cap space, public acknowledgement by both Jed and Trent, etc. All he had to report was Ray-Ray and Thad and that we lost out on every FA targeted. FO missed on a chance to prove they were serious about doing everything they could to help make us competitive and they could have done that by locking up a number of players under $10M who were all in the 24-27 range on 4/5 year contracts)

Agree with all this.

One add; you can't sign players that don't want to come here. Cite whatever reasons one might want, there is absolutely no practical reason why a young player at the height of his career would want to come play for a team that is on a 2-3 year rebuilding plan. Just too many question marks. I am disappointed but not surprised.

Best case scenario right now is to pick up some 2nd tier guys in the next week or so, then have a good draft.

[ Edited by dj43 on Mar 12, 2016 at 7:50 AM ]

Mar 12, 2016 at 7:27 AM

#18

walker807
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Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:
Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
At least extend Lynch with some of that money, do something productive with it.

He still has 2 full years on his contract. There's no need to extend he now.

I don't think you can extend him until after year 3 if the rookie deal.

Mar 12, 2016 at 7:29 AM

#19

Strwy2Hevn
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How do you grade nothing?

Mar 12, 2016 at 7:34 AM

#20

reasonable1
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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by SteveYoung:
It's really hard to grade.

Keeping Ian Williams was the biggest priority. Dawson was resigned too. We extended Dial who looks to be an up and coming player.

Thad Lewis may not count as a player but he will offer experience in Kellys system and act as a coach for whoever our coach is.

We were after Sean Smith and he chose to go to Oakland. No other corners are worth that money. We were after Sweezy but he got a rediculous contract in TB. Apparently we are interested in Larsen, Dunbar, Okung and Laurinitis too.

Baalke has been trying but Im glad he hasn't shelled out contracts like the guys have been getting. Most of these guys will be cut in a few years anyways because they will be busts.

Do what we did in 2011. Extend/keep our own players. We extended McDonald and Gore in 11 and Williams and Dial this year. We got bargains in Whitner, Rogers, Goodwin and Edwards in 11 after the madness calmed down. I expect Baalke to do the same this year.

We also locked up Celek too.

Internal Signings = A (we locked up all the internal guys we wanted plus a top tier player in Ian and got a couple "systems guys")
Market = C (we lost Boone and while Tiller is better we're down a starting OL now and lost out on all the top young G's)
Image = F (Omar Ruiz was assigned to cover our moves for 2 days because it was believed we'd be active with the 2nd most cap space, public acknowledgement by both Jed and Trent, etc. All he had to report was Ray-Ray and Thad and that we lost out on every FA targeted. FO missed on a chance to prove they were serious about doing everything they could to help make us competitive and they could have done that by locking up a number of players under $10M who were all in the 24-27 range on 4/5 year contracts)

Agree with all this.

One add; you can't sign players that don't want to come here. Cite whatever reasons one might want, there is absolutely no practical reason why a young player at the height of his career would want to come play for a team that is one a 2-3 year rebuilding plan. Just too many question marks. I am disappointed but not surprised.

Best case scenario right now is to pick up some 2nd tier guys in the next week or so, then have a good draft.

That was most likely the plan to begin with as this FA class was just not that damn good.

I really wish people would understand that fact. This was a vastly overrated FA group with no gamechanging players.

Mar 12, 2016 at 7:35 AM

#21

northvan49erman
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R-E-L-A-X

This team needs to rebuild through the draft. Overpaying a bunch of mediocre free agents just for the sake of spending money, isn't prudent.

Signing a couple guys isn't going to make us Super Bowl contenders, so, wait, develop, strike when the time is right.

And credit to Baalke for not spending. His job is on the line and he's sticking to his principles of building through the draft.

It's the recent draft misses that scare me more than anything.

Mar 12, 2016 at 7:37 AM

#22

Since07
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I gave it a C; resigned Ian Williams and didn't blow money on DL in a deep DL draft, I thin we could have done better and signed Osmele or Irvin.

Mar 12, 2016 at 7:45 AM

#23

Sourball
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All I'm gonna say is that someone needs to invent a GM Viagra for Baalke.

Mar 12, 2016 at 7:46 AM

#24

fropwns
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This.

Originally posted by Janitor:
F. Teams that have a solid core of talent can afford to skip FA and build through the draft. We aren't in that position. Most of our experienced talent has left the last two seasons, we have a very very young team who could have greatly benefited by bringing in some steady and experienced talent.

I wasn't even hoping for a bunch of A-listers, but to have done NOTHING (c'mon, thad lewis doesn't count) is kind of sickening given the circumstances.

Mar 12, 2016 at 7:48 AM

#25

cali2COniner
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Is this a real question?

Mar 12, 2016 at 7:51 AM

#26

reasonable1
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Originally posted by northvan49erman:
R-E-L-A-X

This team needs to rebuild through the draft. Overpaying a bunch of mediocre free agents just for the sake of spending money, isn't prudent.

Signing a couple guys isn't going to make us Super Bowl contenders, so, wait, develop, strike when the time is right.

And credit to Baalke for not spending. His job is on the line and he's sticking to his principles of building through the draft.

It's the recent draft misses that scare me more than anything.

Although I will contend some of those draft "misses" were misused by the staffs.

Lemonier, Martin and Thomas stand out. Thomas I believe is the one that has talent to stick but the other 2 just haven't been good. Martin, though, played much better at guard. Center is nowhere near his thing.

Mar 12, 2016 at 7:56 AM

#27

Gore_21
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Originally posted by joaosoarrs99:

Originally posted by GoldenJoe:
At least extend Lynch with some of that money, do something productive with it.

He still has 2 full years on his contract. There's no need to extend he now.

You can't extend a rookie on their contract until after year 3 so we have to wait until after this next season.

Mar 12, 2016 at 7:59 AM

#28

SportOvaFilmTV
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N/A

Mar 12, 2016 at 8:02 AM

#29

GolittaCamper
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I rate it "typical"

Mar 12, 2016 at 8:04 AM

#30

ninerville
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Originally posted by SteveYoung:
It's really hard to grade.

Keeping Ian Williams was the biggest priority. Dawson was resigned too. We extended Dial who looks to be an up and coming player.

Thad Lewis may not count as a player but he will offer experience in Kellys system and act as a coach for whoever our coach is.

We were after Sean Smith and he chose to go to Oakland. No other corners are worth that money. We were after Sweezy but he got a rediculous contract in TB. Apparently we are interested in Larsen, Dunbar, Okung and Laurinitis too.

Baalke has been trying but Im glad he hasn't shelled out contracts like the guys have been getting. Most of these guys will be cut in a few years anyways because they will be busts.

Do what we did in 2011. Extend/keep our own players. We extended McDonald and Gore in 11 and Williams and Dial this year. We got bargains in Whitner, Rogers, Goodwin and Edwards in 11 after the madness calmed down. I expect Baalke to do the same this year.

Bravo