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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
No because he can't help them lose while being inactive, just as with the 49ers. The Aussies have overestimated Hayne's abilities. He's got potential but he's still a rookie, he needs time to develop all the facet of his game as well as working on his ball security. If he was anyone else, the people here would have been pulling out the torches and pitchforks after he fumbled on two punt returns in such a short period of time. Gotta hang on to the ball.

No. We know his abilities and the niners are not using them, not even a little bit, no one realistically expected him to make zero errors though.

Check every other rookie in the entire league, they are all making errors. It happens. You don't cut someone who makes a error who has shown extreme promise.

He is rightly receiving criticism, as long as he learns from it. The niners have lots of problems right now and what to do with hayne is about number 565 I reckon.

At the end of the day they need to work out if they like him or not, either play him a game load to find out what he has, or trade him if they don't think so. There is several teams that would love to have him
Originally posted by bewdynewkJH38:
Originally posted by Black24Razor:
Please trade him. He sucks. Hayne wouldn't even start on most college football teams. Settle down and have a Fosters.


Fosters is s**t, worst than Budwater

Yeah it sucks, but it's hardly that s**t St Louis product that fails to deliver year after year.
Originally posted by tezel112:
No, but he would have him there as a backup. FFS.

At what position?

Which of their RB's is Seattle going to sit so that Hayne can be a backup PR. Lynch? Rawls? Fred Jackson? We know he struggles with blocking, so they aren't going to play him at FB, which of their players should they sit for a backup RB that can't pass block very well and a backup punt returner with poor ball security?
Originally posted by theauviper:
No. We know his abilities and the niners are not using them,

You know his abilities from where? The rugby pitch? This isn't f**king rugby.

From playing in the preseason against dudes serving up hash browns at the Waffle House nowadays? People just assumed he'd be an excellent player right out of the gates and I see a talented and promising rookie but one that needs a lot of work.


And yes rookie mistakes are to be expected but a guy having trouble securing the football isn't just an issue that you overlook and hope he grows out of.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Oct 27, 2015 at 8:58 PM ]
Seattle run is over heading downhill AZ and Rams uphill
I just dont get the outrage unless its coming entirely from uneducated fans who have no platform to stand on for their outrage other than being uneducated.

If anything the Niners are doing him a favor and long term he will be much better off than if they just continued to throw him out there and allow him to continue to make mistakes and justify them as growing pains. That can be entirely more damaging long term than getting some splinters in your ass for a season and learning the game of Football. At this point he is better off sitting. But its likely he wont be afforded that luxury all season long with the shape we are in right now at RB.

Again this kid has never played a snap of Football at any level prior to making an NFL roster.
He was rushed into a starting role to begin with. If circumstances were different he would have never seen a snap this season and that would be the case for the majority of the teams in the NFL had he ended up any where else. Actually if he didnt sign with the 49ers he would likely be sitting on a practice squad somewhere or back home playing Rugby.
[ Edited by IdahoNiner on Oct 27, 2015 at 9:03 PM ]
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by pd24:
He should have signed there. Lol

He'd be on the bench in Seattle too. Marshawn Lynch and Tyler Lockett.

And Fred Jackson and the other guy, whats his face? Lol yea 0 playin time for The Aussie there.
Originally posted by BarrySandwich:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Right, Pete Carroll would bench one of the best, fastest returners in the NFL to play Outback Butterfingers instead.

Outback Butterfingers,not bad i like it

+1
We already have too many hayne threads ffs .....

Stupid journalism imo
Originally posted by JamesGatz83:
Originally posted by pd24:
He should have signed there. Lol

He'd be on the bench in Seattle too. Marshawn Lynch and Tyler Lockett.

Not too mention Rawls

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
You know his abilities from where? The rugby pitch? This isn't f**king rugby.

From playing in the preseason against dudes serving up hash browns at the Waffle House nowadays? People just assumed he'd be an excellent player right out of the gates and I see a talented and promising rookie but one that needs a lot of work.


And yes rookie mistakes are to be expected but a guy having trouble securing the football isn't just an issue that you overlook and hope he grows out of.

For the 5060493832 time, many of those plays in preseason (including the 3 returns against dallas in the first 1/4) were against their starting st unit, you can even check the personnel, they are playing. This whole, but it was preseason argument is getting really really old. He has done it in preseason, he has shown flashes in the regular season too. Its hard to make plays when you don't get the ball. The guy is 13th in the league for PR ave......

As far as fumbling goes, in over 100 touches across 9 games he has actually fumbled it once, a single time. The other 2 so called fumbles were drops - mental mistakes including his first touch ever. Ones that I hope he has learned from.

Yes we have seen what he has done on the rugby field, many of those skills are important. It means he can tackle, he can juke, he can catch, he can kick, he has excellent vision, he is a very quick learner. He is just a all round athlete and because he has those skills they need to use them. The reality is there is thousands of strong fast guys in the college system, its very rare you get someone who has talent in so many area's. If they don't use that they are crazy. Until they give him a game load, they won't know, might as well find out now. 4 touches a game doesn't tell you anything.
Originally posted by theauviper:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
You know his abilities from where? The rugby pitch? This isn't f**king rugby.

From playing in the preseason against dudes serving up hash browns at the Waffle House nowadays? People just assumed he'd be an excellent player right out of the gates and I see a talented and promising rookie but one that needs a lot of work.


And yes rookie mistakes are to be expected but a guy having trouble securing the football isn't just an issue that you overlook and hope he grows out of.

For the 5060493832 time, many of those plays in preseason (including the 3 returns against dallas in the first 1/4) were against their starting st unit, you can even check the personnel, they are playing. This whole, but it was preseason argument is getting really really old. He has done it in preseason, he has shown flashes in the regular season too. Its hard to make plays when you don't get the ball. The guy is 13th in the league for PR ave......

As far as fumbling goes, in over 100 touches across 9 games he has actually fumbled it once, a single time. The other 2 so called fumbles were drops - mental mistakes including his first touch ever. Ones that I hope he has learned from.

Yes we have seen what he has done on the rugby field, many of those skills are important. It means he can tackle, he can juke, he can catch, he can kick, he has excellent vision, he is a very quick learner. He is just a all round athlete and because he has those skills they need to use them. The reality is there is thousands of strong fast guys in the college system, its very rare you get someone who has talent in so many area's. If they don't use that they are crazy. Until they give him a game load, they won't know, might as well find out now. 4 touches a game doesn't tell you anything.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess you are pretty new to this whole American Football thing?
Originally posted by theauviper:
For the 5060493832 time, many of those plays in preseason (including the 3 returns against dallas in the first 1/4) were against their starting st unit, you can even check the personnel, they are playing.

I was talking more about his running. As far as his returns, when you've had two major miscues like he's had in such a small number of returns, any coach is going to have a hard time trusting you.

As much as you seem to believe that Hayne is some undercover superstar and his rugby talents translate perfectly to the NFL, the reality is that he has a lot of work to do. In rugby he may have been one of the most dominant athletes there is, in the NFL, he's just one of an almost endless number of super athletic guys. He has to develop his football skills to become a complete player and that simply will take him some time.



There are few if any teams that would be giving him any kind of snaps right now, particularly winning teams. If you are shaky as a punt returner, that is a big problem, if you flub it deep on your own side of the field, you may as well just give points to the other team then and there.
Jarryd Hayne has just been used as a promotion's tool to expand the viewing audience outside the USA. Time to wakeup Jarryd to this s**t.
[ Edited by onboard on Oct 27, 2015 at 9:57 PM ]
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Originally posted by onboard:
Jarryd Hayne has just been used as a promotion's tool to expand the viewing audience outside the USA. Time to wakeup Jarryd to this s**t.

He sure isn't being promoted here in the states.
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