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Pass rushing help..?
Oct 18, 2015 at 10:18 PM
- jersey49er
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This might get put in with the other thread I made 2 weeks ago about the oline and trades..in my opinion like the oline on offense the pass rush on defense is the weak link..we have seen it most the last 2 weeks..especially in the giants game but any trades you can think of to help...1 guy in mind is on a 1 yr contract I believe is Tamba Hali..I'm sure KC is most def going to make trades..I'm sure a 5th rd pick can get him..any other players ant1 can think of..? Thanks and again sry if I should've put it in the old thread..
Oct 18, 2015 at 10:22 PM
- allhype
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I'm sure they would take VD and then throw in Eric Reid for Tamba and a 4th
Oct 18, 2015 at 10:23 PM
- mattster03
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I just wish we could develop the talent that we already have. I mean, we used a high 1st round pick on Armstead and he gets a few snaps a game even though he looks good when he's in there. Same with Tank...
Oct 18, 2015 at 10:24 PM
- ninersrule4
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If we would just use AA and Tank more and way less Dial, Dorsey and absolutely no more TJE we would be a lot better off. Oh also maybe try Purcell and STOP making Lynch cover!
Oct 18, 2015 at 10:27 PM
- jersey49er
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Originally posted by allhype:I'm sure they would take VD and then throw in Eric Reid for Tamba and a 4th
Why ? They have Kelce and a rookie TE with a crazy name I forget..only teams trading for VD are playoff contenders with a QB who they consider great..like the giants..and why trade Eric Reid ? I think he's doing fine..and a leader on this D..idk what you think or see but I do not understand..how about a pick like I said for Tamba straight up..a 5th..
Oct 18, 2015 at 10:30 PM
- jersey49er
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Originally posted by ninersrule4:If we would just use AA and Tank more and way less Dial, Dorsey and absolutely no more TJE we would be a lot better off. Oh also maybe try Purcell and STOP making Lynch cover!
I agree..TJE is useless.. Lol
Oct 18, 2015 at 10:34 PM
- allhype
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Originally posted by jersey49er:Originally posted by allhype:I'm sure they would take VD and then throw in Eric Reid for Tamba and a 4th
Why ? They have Kelce and a rookie TE with a crazy name I forget..only teams trading for VD are playoff contenders with a QB who they consider great..like the giants..and why trade Eric Reid ? I think he's doing fine..and a leader on this D..idk what you think or see but I do not understand..how about a pick like I said for Tamba straight up..a 5th..
Reid is garbage and missed another pic today. No way they give up Tamba for a fifth. And just in case you forgot Vernon AND ALEX had there best years with each other
Oct 18, 2015 at 10:38 PM
- jersey49er
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Originally posted by allhype:Originally posted by jersey49er:Originally posted by allhype:I'm sure they would take VD and then throw in Eric Reid for Tamba and a 4th
Why ? They have Kelce and a rookie TE with a crazy name I forget..only teams trading for VD are playoff contenders with a QB who they consider great..like the giants..and why trade Eric Reid ? I think he's doing fine..and a leader on this D..idk what you think or see but I do not understand..how about a pick like I said for Tamba straight up..a 5th..
Reid is garbage and missed another pic today. No way they give up Tamba for a fifth. And just in case you forgot Vernon AND ALEX had there best years with each other
Lmaooo yes your correct they had there best years together..5 YEARS AGO..VD is not the same player or we wouldn't be talking about him being traded..Kelce is a better all around TE and the rookie they have is doing well..I don't see that happening..but you never know..
[ Edited by jersey49er on Oct 18, 2015 at 10:39 PM ]
Oct 18, 2015 at 10:58 PM
- dj43
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53 pass attempts by Flacco. ZERO sacks.
No team is going to trade a legit pass rusher to SF for anything Baalke is willing to give up.
That leaves it up to Mangini to scheme more pressure.
No team is going to trade a legit pass rusher to SF for anything Baalke is willing to give up.
That leaves it up to Mangini to scheme more pressure.
Oct 18, 2015 at 11:12 PM
- jersey49er
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Originally posted by dj43:53 pass attempts by Flacco. ZERO sacks.
No team is going to trade a legit pass rusher to SF for anything Baalke is willing to give up.
That leaves it up to Mangini to scheme more pressure.
I don't agree completely..Jared Allen is a legit pass rusher who was traded for a late rd pick but i think mostly bc of his contract..so you never know..and week 1 I thought mangini scheme was great with what he threw at bridgewater but the qbs we have faced aren't 2nd yr players who are new at reading defenses and it has shown..lack of pass rush is killing the secondary..they can't cover for as long as they have..
Oct 19, 2015 at 12:18 AM
- Evilgenius
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Bridgewater still completed a lot of passes as well and missed on a few easy completions. The scheme showed some holes then but the blitzes were pretty well timed and the Vikes clearly were expecting something totally different from us. We got them with surprise and inexperience from their QB. I wouldn't expect the same result if we played again. Would be a lot closer I think if we continued with the 2 deep scheme we seem to love now.
There really aren't going to be any decent passrusher available, they basically never are. Really we probably should have kept Aldon but I guess there might have been some friction in the locker room there. Harold has shown some things, but he clearly needs to get a bit stronger if he's ever going to be a good passrusher. He's got a decent outside rush but you need more than that in the NFL unless you are superhuman (Freeney in his youth, although he developed more than just that).
There really aren't going to be any decent passrusher available, they basically never are. Really we probably should have kept Aldon but I guess there might have been some friction in the locker room there. Harold has shown some things, but he clearly needs to get a bit stronger if he's ever going to be a good passrusher. He's got a decent outside rush but you need more than that in the NFL unless you are superhuman (Freeney in his youth, although he developed more than just that).
[ Edited by Evilgenius on Oct 19, 2015 at 12:20 AM ]
Oct 19, 2015 at 3:54 AM
- brodiebluebanaszak
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we can re sign dockett
Oct 19, 2015 at 5:11 AM
- Baldie
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
we can re sign dockett
Did he help at all though? I think our pass rush is not gonna change and I don't think anything will get done to upgrade it this season. Kaep and the O will just have to hopefully build on what they are becoming. The defense is doing an okay job. They are making stops in bunches but its the offense that needs to score at will.
Oct 19, 2015 at 5:57 AM
- pickle
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Originally posted by ninersrule4:
If we would just use AA and Tank more and way less Dial, Dorsey and absolutely no more TJE we would be a lot better off. Oh also maybe try Purcell and STOP making Lynch cover!
Amen! I couldn't believe that on the last play of the game our best pass rusher is in coverage 15 yards from the line of scrimmage.
Oct 19, 2015 at 6:06 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by allhype:
Originally posted by jersey49er:
Originally posted by allhype:
I'm sure they would take VD and then throw in Eric Reid for Tamba and a 4th
Why ? They have Kelce and a rookie TE with a crazy name I forget..only teams trading for VD are playoff contenders with a QB who they consider great..like the giants..and why trade Eric Reid ? I think he's doing fine..and a leader on this D..idk what you think or see but I do not understand..how about a pick like I said for Tamba straight up..a 5th..
Reid is garbage and missed another pic today. No way they give up Tamba for a fifth. And just in case you forgot Vernon AND ALEX had there best years with each other
Reid actually played well yesterday and they already have decent safeties in KC....trade doesn't help KC at all why would they do that?