If YOU were the OC, what changes would you make ??

i would steal the New Orleans Saints playbook..lol

What's happened is that Kap sees only half the field. His progressions due to the offensive line and his inability to survey the entire field are single reads. He can't throw to a receiver before the break and his sideline passes when not thrown out of bounds have a good chance of being intercepted. We could have stole a Super Bowl or two with Kap at the controls under Harbaugh but that train has left the station. The instincts and "feel" in the pocket aren't there, opposing defensive coaches can't wait to play the 49ers. The big problem is if he has a good game or two everyone will think the light has turned on, whereas it's fools gold.

Originally posted by RonMexico:
a lot of comments about to flood in thinking the OC has a lot of power

nailed it

Originally posted by RonMexico:

Originally posted by RonMexico:
a lot of comments about to flood in thinking the OC has a lot of power

nailed it

I think we can agree that issues lie with the OL and Kap, and that there are adjustments Geep can make to help them out. What are those adjustments? Just trying to prevent this from turning into another Kap thread because we already have 3-4 of those.

The past two teams have come with majority man coverage. IMO, in the past, Kap has done better versus man coverage than zone. ARI came with man because that's what they do, that's their identity. If you look at past ARI games, Kap has done well with a nice QB rating. He crapped the bed in week 3 versus ARI. What's surprising is that GB saw what ARI did and decided to go mostly man coverage. This isn't the norm, but it may be something teams will start to look at doing. Perhaps Boldin has lost a step. Same with VD. Patton doesn't scare anyone as a 3rd WR. Vance/Celek, not scary.

Perhaps Geep should consider isolating Torrey and force feeding him. Force the defense to adjust, then work off of that.

Originally posted by thl408:
- Spread the field horizontally with formation. Doesn't matter what the personnel package is, just spread the field. This will give Kap easier presnap reads as well as prevent the defense from disguising who is coming on a blitz. When the 49ers use that bunched up multiple TE formation, it muddles the box. OL can't tell who is coming on a blitz. The more bunched up WRs are, the longer it takes for them to spread apart after the snap. Time is crucial with this piss poor pass protection.

- This team still can't execute a screen pass. So do the next best thing that can slow down a pass rush - run a draw play.

- Start targeting the RBs in the flat.

- Run the ball out of passing formations. Go 3 wide and take some bodies out of the box. Pound Hyde.

- Tell Kap that once he hits the top of his drop, he has 2 hitches to get rid of the ball. The ball must leave his hand by then (or scramble).

- Get Torrey Smith involved early and often.

- Demote Devey to the marching band. Bring back Looney, Adam Snyder, anyone. I know that's more of a Baalke/Tomsula move.

All of this. 49ers seem to have it stuck in their heads that the only way to run the ball is to keep everything condensed in bunched up formations This doesn't help Hyde or Kap. We're not a dominant, power run team anymore. Spread the field, unpack the box. Give Hyde some breathing room, and open up some passing opportunities between the hashes for Kap. Teams know he struggles throwing outside the numbers. Stretch the field horizontally by formation, if they don't honor it, start throwing quick screens to the WRs for easy completions and yards.

Originally posted by thl408:
I think we can agree that issues lie with the OL and Kap, and that there are adjustments Geep can make to help them out. What are those adjustments? Just trying to prevent this from turning into another Kap thread because we already have 3-4 of those.

The past two teams have come with majority man coverage. IMO, in the past, Kap has done better versus man coverage than zone. ARI came with man because that's what they do, that's their identity. If you look at past ARI games, Kap has done well with a nice QB rating. He crapped the bed in week 3 versus ARI. What's surprising is that GB saw what ARI did and decided to go mostly man coverage. This isn't the norm, but it may be something teams will start to look at doing. Perhaps Boldin has lost a step. Same with VD. Patton doesn't scare anyone as a 3rd WR. Vance/Celek, not scary.

Perhaps Geep should consider isolating Torrey and force feeding him. Force the defense to adjust, then work off of that.

I believe the reason T Smith was upset last week was that Kaepernick wasn't trusting him. He wants the ball thrown up and he'll go get it. Didn't work with Boldin due to lack of speed, but it did and will with Smith. But CK's interceptions may be keeping him pent up.

Originally posted by SofaKing:

Originally posted by thl408:
- Spread the field horizontally with formation. Doesn't matter what the personnel package is, just spread the field. This will give Kap easier presnap reads as well as prevent the defense from disguising who is coming on a blitz. When the 49ers use that bunched up multiple TE formation, it muddles the box. OL can't tell who is coming on a blitz. The more bunched up WRs are, the longer it takes for them to spread apart after the snap. Time is crucial with this piss poor pass protection.

- This team still can't execute a screen pass. So do the next best thing that can slow down a pass rush - run a draw play.

- Start targeting the RBs in the flat.

- Run the ball out of passing formations. Go 3 wide and take some bodies out of the box. Pound Hyde.

- Tell Kap that once he hits the top of his drop, he has 2 hitches to get rid of the ball. The ball must leave his hand by then (or scramble).

- Get Torrey Smith involved early and often.

- Demote Devey to the marching band. Bring back Looney, Adam Snyder, anyone. I know that's more of a Baalke/Tomsula move.

All of this. 49ers seem to have it stuck in their heads that the only way to run the ball is to keep everything condensed in bunched up formations This doesn't help Hyde or Kap. We're not a dominant, power run team anymore. Spread the field, unpack the box. Give Hyde some breathing room, and open up some passing opportunities between the hashes for Kap. Teams know he struggles throwing outside the numbers. Stretch the field horizontally by formation, if they don't honor it, start throwing quick screens to the WRs for easy completions and yards.

Originally posted by SofaKing:
All of this. 49ers seem to have it stuck in their heads that the only way to run the ball is to keep everything condensed in bunched up formations This doesn't help Hyde or Kap. We're not a dominant, power run team anymore. Spread the field, unpack the box. Give Hyde some breathing room, and open up some passing opportunities between the hashes for Kap. Teams know he struggles throwing outside the numbers. Stretch the field horizontally by formation, if they don't honor it, start throwing quick screens to the WRs for easy completions and yards.

Hyde leads the league in tackles broken or something like that. He also is a leader (or near the top) in yards gained after first contact. By removing a couple bodies from the box, it can give him more room to juke DLmen, and use his shiftiness to get some tough yards. When the 49ers run out of those bunched formations, there's so much chaos and less room for Hyde to do those things. It's pretty much a page out of the SEA playbook when SEA runs out of a 3WR set and Lynch has more room to get a full head of steam.

I'm loving this thread!

Originally posted by thl408:

Hyde leads the league in tackles broken or something like that. He also is a leader (or near the top) in yards gained after first contact. By removing a couple bodies from the box, it can give him more room to juke DLmen, and use his shiftiness to get some tough yards. When the 49ers run out of those bunched formations, there's so much chaos and less room for Hyde to do those things. It's pretty much a page out of the SEA playbook when SEA runs out of a 3WR set and Lynch has more room to get a full head of steam.

I've wanted the niners to "steal" (and run it the amount of times they do) that trips gun formation out of 11 personnel that Seattle uses for years. You can do whatever concepts you want on the trips side and that's leaves a HB and TE opposite. All sorts of read-option opportunities as well as just straight zone stuff on a thinned out box.

I would phase Vernon Davis right out, oh wait he has done that himself. Only Vern could miss 2 games with a bruise. He is such a Turkey, I can't wait till he's finally out of a Niner Uniform

run a college style offense. run a hybrid mix of pistol/shotgun spread/read option and wild cat formations. at this point not a single thing were doing on offense is gaining yardage, why not go back to what we were running when kap took us to NFC title games an a SB, that was the pistol. it blows my mind that kap has had success in the pistol an after we get away from it everyone is wondering what the problem is. everyones got a real short memory. who cares if all this stuff is college thats what kap thrives in so do it, if our defense keeps improving were only gonna have to score 2-3 touchdowns a game. an get hyde the ball damnit.

don't hold the ball any longer than 2.5 seconds.

Mine almost mirrors your but with a few modifications.

1. OL- LT Staley LG Thomas C Martin RG Boone RT Trenton Brown.

2. TE's Celek and Bell Dozer as 1 and 2, McDonald Sits.

3. RB Hyde- FB HB Miller

4. WR's Boldin Torrey Smith/Deandre White. The WR runs deep every time to spread the defense.

5. More quick throws- avoid negative plays

6. Pump it deep every 6 passing plays or so to pray for a miracle or just to stretch the D

7. Avoid negative plays.