Originally posted by communist:
imho, according to game film thread, kaep doesnt have the mental ability to survive in the nfl. i was afraid that this is the case since 2013, now im very sure about that.
time to move on.
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Originally posted by communist:
imho, according to game film thread, kaep doesnt have the mental ability to survive in the nfl. i was afraid that this is the case since 2013, now im very sure about that.
time to move on.
Originally posted by blm7754:He has been on steady decline since 2012. Last year he was in the bottom half of the QB class and he started this year looking even worse. He never was more than a one read athletic QB, as defenses took away his weapons he didn't improve his weaknesses or develop new strengths to compensate. The first thing that baffled him was the spy, he could never find the void left in the defense. When he rolled out the middle would open up yet Gore could have a hand up waiting for a 10 yard gaining pass and Kap would take a sack or run for no gain. Even when he has all day to throw he still makes mistakes unless the guy he locked on to is the right choice. His athleticism hid his weaknesses until defensive coordinators figured him out. He could be a useful back up running gimmick plays and no more. What he is lacking can't be taught. That is obvious as he hasn't
Everybody hating on Kap... I get it. But you don't just throw away a QB that has been pretty good after he has 2 horrid games. Cause thats the truth.... he's had 2 very bad games.
In case you didn't know.... finding a great QB is hard. Very hard. You also don't want to start rookie QBs when you can avoid it.
Here is what I'd do... let Kap play out the season. We all know we aren't making the playoffs this year. Let him have a chance to rebound. If he returns to form or even improves we keep him around next year while a rookie QB is waiting in the wings.
That way we won't ever have to chant for Blaine Gabbert when/if things get bad again.
Originally posted by BobS:This time to move on.
Originally posted by blm7754:He has been on steady decline since 2012. Last year he was in the bottom half of the QB class and he started this year looking even worse. He never was more than a one read athletic QB, as defenses took away his weapons he didn't improve his weaknesses or develop new strengths to compensate. The first thing that baffled him was the spy, he could never find the void left in the defense. When he rolled out the middle would open up yet Gore could have a hand up waiting for a 10 yard gaining pass and Kap would take a sack or run for no gain. Even when he has all day to throw he still makes mistakes unless the guy he locked on to is the right choice. His athleticism hid his weaknesses until defensive coordinators figured him out. He could be a useful back up running gimmick plays and no more. What he is lacking can't be taught. That is obvious as he hasn't
Everybody hating on Kap... I get it. But you don't just throw away a QB that has been pretty good after he has 2 horrid games. Cause thats the truth.... he's had 2 very bad games.
In case you didn't know.... finding a great QB is hard. Very hard. You also don't want to start rookie QBs when you can avoid it.
Here is what I'd do... let Kap play out the season. We all know we aren't making the playoffs this year. Let him have a chance to rebound. If he returns to form or even improves we keep him around next year while a rookie QB is waiting in the wings.
That way we won't ever have to chant for Blaine Gabbert when/if things get bad again.
improved in 4 years.
Originally posted by zonkers:
He'll be 28 next season and it's apparent that he never developed a good handle of qb fundamentals entering this season. If we keep him and empty our wallet on a great supporting cast, I think the best case scenario is a Vikings Randall Cunningham: slightly matured dual-threat playmaker. But, even Randall's star didn't shine that long in Minni.
Kaep still has 12 games for the light to go off. If not, he might go the way of Tebow/Freeman. Or, he might be that wildcat/change-of-pace QB some teams might find use for.
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Originally posted by leakyfausett:
This time to move on.
This. I don't think Kap is fixable.
Originally posted by LinkMeBro:Originally posted by 5timechamps:why would we keep him?
Not sure. I estimate only 1/4 of the Fan Base still believes "He's young/just needs more time/just needs a new HC/OC"
He is a dead man walking. He does not possess the tools to significantly improve and we do not possess options to significantly improve the roster around him this season.
We SHOULD draft in the lottery this off-season and next. I do not really care if it's Kaepernick, Gabbert or Veteran behind center next year. My main focus is high draft picks.
So we probably won't even have the pieces in place until 2017. Then the real fun begins: deciding if our picks were booms or busts.
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Unh unh, Golitta...there are numerous pieces of tape put up by jonny del and Thl or where you see on replay that kap was not rushed, had plenty of time, and still thru the ball in the dirt, high, wide, or behind...or worse, a pair of pick 6s back to back. After that kap looked like the pooch who tried to turn over an electrified garbage can, only to get the fufu shocked out of him. Nope, i don't think the OL will in and of itself fix kap. It will aid another qb , but at this moment in time, not kap. Another reason why i am advocating that he take a rest on the sidelines for a few games, maybe even 4-6 ....or however many it is for him to get his head screwed on straight, and by watchiing, and reviewing his old tape from his first two yrs, to see what he did good and why. Trying to do that with no OL protection at present, IMO, is going to make him worse, and cement that into his brain forever. He needs to watch awhile, for as long as it takes, to learn without getting creamed on every passing play. Playing now is the worst thing for him. Yes a great OL would help him right now, but nowhere near enough. He needs a timeout.... a gatorade break.
If we want a shot at salvaging kap, he needs to be taken out to rewind, reset, start over. If he remains in, i am afraid this is it for him...I don't like that outcome...ie, no shot at him getting it together again.