I am going on 40 years old and have been a 49er fan all of my life. I truly miss the days of Joe and Steve when our quarterback dropped back you had a rush of confidence that a big play or smart play was in the works. A few years back when we beat the Falcons to go back to the Super Bowl for the first time in what seemed like eternity, I wept like a little boys that I may be experiencing another Super Bowl win and my first with my two boys.
Flash forward to today and we need to get real. When you have a quarterback who has now been in the league 4-5 years and you are praying that his work in the off season with a Hall of Famer finally helps his development, when there really has not been any consistent development at all, it scares you. I hate to do it, but look at guy like Rogers. When his team is depleted of talent or hurt due to injury, he steps up even more to guide his franchise. He brings the old Joe and Steve confidence. When Kaepernick drops back, I cross my fingers that he doesn't give it away.
Add to this, the unfortunate losses we have had this past offseason, and the next to nothing we have gotten out of our 2012, 2013, 2014 drafts, and the pit in my stomach gets bigger and bigger. I am frustrated watching teams draft talented players who make an impact right away, like the Seahawks do. I am tired of drafting for two or three years down the road. Draft for NOW! Draft so you talent is oozing and people are fighting to get on the field. Drafting for two or three years down the road does nothing when you are trying to win now. Drafting this way does not put a sense of urgency or an ounce of confidence into your fan base.
I like Tomsula, I really do. But, he is a position coach, not head coach material. Does he think by saying that it is all on him, that we are supposed to say ok. No problem. Yes, it is on him, but it is on Baalke too, as well as the players on the field. I want an offensive line that dominates. I want a quarterback that does what a well versed QB does. With this, we can overcompensate for a team that has lost so much talent on D. But instead, we hold our breathe on a QB that has not developed one bit. He has all of the athleticism, but doesn't have it between the ears.
Jed, I was so proud of you when you hired Harbaugh. Finally we had a name and presence. However, I do agree it was time to move on from him (didn't like the way you handled it). We have become a laughing stock. A team with our history (your family history with Eddie) should not become a laughing stock.
So, let's get real. Cut Kaepernick loose after this year or trade him. Use the money to sign a talented o-line and shutdown corner. Draft a real QB, let Gabbert play to give year of development to the new QB, and draft Defense. Fire Tomsula and staff at year end and bring in someone with a presence (Like and Ariens).
Please Jed, put your ego aside. Move on from Tomsula, Kaepernick, and Baalke. Blow it up now. Use your cap resources, bring in the presence, and please give my kids the chance to experience a winner like I did as a kid and you did as a kid.
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Sep 28, 2015 at 6:32 AM
- Iupati77
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Sep 28, 2015 at 6:36 AM
- Rascal
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Bravo!! Great post!!
Sep 28, 2015 at 6:38 AM
- ElephantHaley
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Originally posted by Iupati77:
I am going on 40 years old and have been a 49er fan all of my life. I truly miss the days of Joe and Steve when our quarterback dropped back you had a rush of confidence that a big play or smart play was in the works. A few years back when we beat the Falcons to go back to the Super Bowl for the first time in what seemed like eternity, I wept like a little boys that I may be experiencing another Super Bowl win and my first with my two boys.
Flash forward to today and we need to get real. When you have a quarterback who has now been in the league 4-5 years and you are praying that his work in the off season with a Hall of Famer finally helps his development, when there really has not been any consistent development at all, it scares you. I hate to do it, but look at guy like Rogers. When his team is depleted of talent or hurt due to injury, he steps up even more to guide his franchise. He brings the old Joe and Steve confidence. When Kaepernick drops back, I cross my fingers that he doesn't give it away.
Add to this, the unfortunate losses we have had this past offseason, and the next to nothing we have gotten out of our 2012, 2013, 2014 drafts, and the pit in my stomach gets bigger and bigger. I am frustrated watching teams draft talented players who make an impact right away, like the Seahawks do. I am tired of drafting for two or three years down the road. Draft for NOW! Draft so you talent is oozing and people are fighting to get on the field. Drafting for two or three years down the road does nothing when you are trying to win now. Drafting this way does not put a sense of urgency or an ounce of confidence into your fan base.
I like Tomsula, I really do. But, he is a position coach, not head coach material. Does he think by saying that it is all on him, that we are supposed to say ok. No problem. Yes, it is on him, but it is on Baalke too, as well as the players on the field. I want an offensive line that dominates. I want a quarterback that does what a well versed QB does. With this, we can overcompensate for a team that has lost so much talent on D. But instead, we hold our breathe on a QB that has not developed one bit. He has all of the athleticism, but doesn't have it between the ears.
Jed, I was so proud of you when you hired Harbaugh. Finally we had a name and presence. However, I do agree it was time to move on from him (didn't like the way you handled it). We have become a laughing stock. A team with our history (your family history with Eddie) should not become a laughing stock.
So, let's get real. Cut Kaepernick loose after this year or trade him. Use the money to sign a talented o-line and shutdown corner. Draft a real QB, let Gabbert play to give year of development to the new QB, and draft Defense. Fire Tomsula and staff at year end and bring in someone with a presence (Like and Ariens).
Please Jed, put your ego aside. Move on from Tomsula, Kaepernick, and Baalke. Blow it up now. Use your cap resources, bring in the presence, and please give my kids the chance to experience a winner like I did as a kid and you did as a kid.
Pretty much summed up where i'm at and how I feel. Nice Post and I totally agree.
Sep 28, 2015 at 6:40 AM
- NinerDreamer11
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AGREED
Sep 28, 2015 at 6:54 AM
- 49erChica
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I'm going to give it one more week before I change my mind. I want to see how we respond to this 2nd blowout loss. I want to see how our QB responds.
Even if we lose next week, the game needs to be much closer and hard fought than these previous weeks.
I'm already over Mangini. He can kick rocks.
Even if we lose next week, the game needs to be much closer and hard fought than these previous weeks.
I'm already over Mangini. He can kick rocks.
Sep 28, 2015 at 6:59 AM
- JThomas
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My only criticism would be, you're a big believer in that quality not quantity thing. Only three posts man?
Get on here and post more!
Sep 28, 2015 at 7:33 AM
- Iupati77
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I am just tired of having these knots in my stomach every Sunday, ten minutes into the game. I would pay huge money to have my boys feel for one game how I felt when Steve or Joe dropped back!
Sep 28, 2015 at 7:45 AM
- facestabber
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Rising from a bottom dweller to a dominant team like the 49ers did with Harbaughs arrival. And now back to bottom dwelling reeks of piss poor management.
Sep 28, 2015 at 7:52 AM
- jimmythegreekjr
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Originally posted by Iupati77:
I am going on 40 years old and have been a 49er fan all of my life. I truly miss the days of Joe and Steve when our quarterback dropped back you had a rush of confidence that a big play or smart play was in the works. A few years back when we beat the Falcons to go back to the Super Bowl for the first time in what seemed like eternity, I wept like a little boys that I may be experiencing another Super Bowl win and my first with my two boys.
Flash forward to today and we need to get real. When you have a quarterback who has now been in the league 4-5 years and you are praying that his work in the off season with a Hall of Famer finally helps his development, when there really has not been any consistent development at all, it scares you. I hate to do it, but look at guy like Rogers. When his team is depleted of talent or hurt due to injury, he steps up even more to guide his franchise. He brings the old Joe and Steve confidence. When Kaepernick drops back, I cross my fingers that he doesn't give it away.
Add to this, the unfortunate losses we have had this past offseason, and the next to nothing we have gotten out of our 2012, 2013, 2014 drafts, and the pit in my stomach gets bigger and bigger. I am frustrated watching teams draft talented players who make an impact right away, like the Seahawks do. I am tired of drafting for two or three years down the road. Draft for NOW! Draft so you talent is oozing and people are fighting to get on the field. Drafting for two or three years down the road does nothing when you are trying to win now. Drafting this way does not put a sense of urgency or an ounce of confidence into your fan base.
I like Tomsula, I really do. But, he is a position coach, not head coach material. Does he think by saying that it is all on him, that we are supposed to say ok. No problem. Yes, it is on him, but it is on Baalke too, as well as the players on the field. I want an offensive line that dominates. I want a quarterback that does what a well versed QB does. With this, we can overcompensate for a team that has lost so much talent on D. But instead, we hold our breathe on a QB that has not developed one bit. He has all of the athleticism, but doesn't have it between the ears.
Jed, I was so proud of you when you hired Harbaugh. Finally we had a name and presence. However, I do agree it was time to move on from him (didn't like the way you handled it). We have become a laughing stock. A team with our history (your family history with Eddie) should not become a laughing stock.
So, let's get real. Cut Kaepernick loose after this year or trade him. Use the money to sign a talented o-line and shutdown corner. Draft a real QB, let Gabbert play to give year of development to the new QB, and draft Defense. Fire Tomsula and staff at year end and bring in someone with a presence (Like and Ariens).
Please Jed, put your ego aside. Move on from Tomsula, Kaepernick, and Baalke. Blow it up now. Use your cap resources, bring in the presence, and please give my kids the chance to experience a winner like I did as a kid and you did as a kid.
I agree. Tomsula is over is head. He won't be the head coach after this year and Kaepernick will be gone too. And let's be real here even more: I honestly think that the "coaching search" was a complete charade and it was all part of their cost cutting strategy to let coaches like Fangio go. Tomsula was set up to fail and be the fall guy. I doubt Jed York will tweet an apology this time about how bad this team is. And when are going to hear from Balke's daughter about Geep Chryst.
Yes, let's be real here: the Packers are coming to town for a feast extravaganza. Right now, I am wondering at what point in the game, the loud echos of boos will be cascading down from the crowd,
Sep 28, 2015 at 9:28 AM
- cortana49
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I've seen enough of this team to know "it ain't gonna work", so I agree with your points. I just don't trust Jed to be able to do this.
Sep 28, 2015 at 9:31 AM
- Cjez
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you're not allowed to be "real" here. gotta be a homer.
Sep 28, 2015 at 3:29 PM
- AB81Rules
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Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
I agree. Tomsula is over is head. He won't be the head coach after this year and Kaepernick will be gone too. And let's be real here even more: I honestly think that the "coaching search" was a complete charade and it was all part of their cost cutting strategy to let coaches like Fangio go. Tomsula was set up to fail and be the fall guy. I doubt Jed York will tweet an apology this time about how bad this team is. And when are going to hear from Balke's daughter about Geep Chryst.
Yes, let's be real here: the Packers are coming to town for a feast extravaganza. Right now, I am wondering at what point in the game, the loud echos of boos will be cascading down from the crowd,
I brought it up that Kap had 2 years tops to improve, or else he was cut, I meant it, and I think now if he continues this path he won't make it to 2016, he will be cut in February or March next year.
Sep 28, 2015 at 3:33 PM
- Phoenix49ers
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Originally posted by Iupati77:I am just tired of having these knots in my stomach every Sunday, ten minutes into the game. I would pay huge money to have my boys feel for one game how I felt when Steve or Joe dropped back!
I am sure every fan of every team would love a HOF caliber QB playing for their franchise. Those types of players are far and few between however which is why people appreciate their performances even more.
The idea that you can dump a guy like Kaepernick and find a HOF quality guy or even All-Pro quality guy like its nothing is kind of silly.
Teams with great QBs tend to hold on to them, everyone else fights over scraps and guys like Ryan Fitzpatrick and Luke McCown.
Drafting a QB early isnt a guarantee of anything either. How many 1st round QBs from recent drafts have been complete disappointments?
I think for the time being, Kaepernick is just the best option. Cutting ties with him without a realistic replacement solution in place is like cutting off your own nose to spite your face. The absolute worst thing this team could do is to draft a rookie and just throw them to the wolves, wasting a high draft pick and another QBs development at the same time.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Sep 28, 2015 at 3:41 PM ]
Sep 28, 2015 at 3:38 PM
- monsterzero789
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Sep 28, 2015 at 3:44 PM
- RishikeshA
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My feeling is that Dr. John York still pulls the strings and Jed is a buffer. Dr. York has shown he does not care for the fans or the team. He made the money and why give it away. Hire cheap and pocket the rest. Three of the last four 49er head coaches had no NFL coaching experience. Tomsula appears to be a fine individual but in his press conferences he can't put together one sentence, how is he going to game plan? The problems with this team goes much deeper than the QB, OL, coaching staff, head coach and GM.