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Originally posted by Karma:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Good stuff!
We already have a thread devoted to this (not to be THAT guy): http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/182289-post-draft-man-depth-chart/page8/
My post is #116.
Sorry! I didn't look around much before I posted. If the mods want to merge, I am cool with that.
Originally posted by Zealot:
One thing that I'm kind of over is the comparisons between Jarryd Hayne and Lawrence Okeye, something I've been wanting to point out for a while.
In football terms, it's like comparing chalk and cheese. Sure, coming in to the NFL they both are/were starting from scratch with zero experience. The big difference is, Hayne was/is an absolute superstar on the rugby field, where Okeye by comparison was a nobody. He didn't win any awards, let alone player of the year awards for his ability in rugby as far as I'm aware. Hayne has two awards as the best player in the game. Okeye wasn't an elite rugby player, Hayne was. There are certain innate qualities that Hayne brings to the table that Okeye doesn't, because he just isn't at the same standard as a footballer as Hayne.
In saying that, I'm sure Hayne doesn't make the roster as a RB, but I'm convinced he has a red hot chance at making the roster for his punt and kickoff return capabilities.
Originally posted by Zealot:
One thing that I'm kind of over is the comparisons between Jarryd Hayne and Lawrence Okeye, something I've been wanting to point out for a while.
In football terms, it's like comparing chalk and cheese. Sure, coming in to the NFL they both are/were starting from scratch with zero experience. The big difference is, Hayne was/is an absolute superstar on the rugby field, where Okeye by comparison was a nobody. He didn't win any awards, let alone player of the year awards for his ability in rugby as far as I'm aware. Hayne has two awards as the best player in the game. Okeye wasn't an elite rugby player, Hayne was. There are certain innate qualities that Hayne brings to the table that Okeye doesn't, because he just isn't at the same standard as a footballer as Hayne.
In saying that, I'm sure Hayne doesn't make the roster as a RB, but I'm convinced he has a red hot chance at making the roster for his punt and kickoff return capabilities.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Not bad Karma.
Couple thing I would do differently.
Drop Looney, I don't see value in him anymore, keep Brown or Farrrell(He is a better Center than Looney is).
Drop Simpson, keep Dres Anderson or DeAndrew White(We gave a lot of guaranteed money to the 5 UDFA WRs, one of them should make it over Simpson).
Also who do u project, Lee or Pinion, who stays? Who is cut?
As for the PS, I think White is more likely due to the guaranteed money we gave him, $32K, compared to just $3K for Davis. Also I expect Whitehead to make the PS, he got $15K gtd. Also Marcus Rush, who got $10K gtd.
Another thing is DL, if we cut Okoye, which may be likely, we lose out on $68K we guaranteed to him as a reserve/future signing. I think he needs to make it over Jerod-Eddie, who I have no faith in, and if he ends up winning a starting DE spot, then we are screwed, as this shows Tank isn't developing, and Armstead isn't ready yet(Which he probably isnt anyway).
Originally posted by kaynj:
Really good post. I agree with 92% of your roster.
I think Millard and Carrier are battling for a spot. Only one of them make the squad I believe.
Looney will lose his spot to Brown or Silberman
Kenneth Acker makes the team as the sixth cb.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by kaynj:
Really good post. I agree with 92% of your roster.
I think Millard and Carrier are battling for a spot. Only one of them make the squad I believe.
Looney will lose his spot to Brown or Silberman
Kenneth Acker makes the team as the sixth cb.
I will be surprised if they cut Carrier, he received a 2yr extension, with a $400K bonus.
I think both make it Millard is valuable, and no one knows if Miller sticks long term, who knows Millard may end being the better FB.
Originally posted by kaynj:
If both stay then that probably means the niners keep only 5 cornerbacks which I could easily see but I believe Acker has more potential then Carrier. I believe Millard makes the 53.
As for the money issue and the same can be said for Dial. I think when making the best 53 you don't compensate the strength of the roster based upon how much money and individual makes. In some cases yes but I don't think they will in this case. Acker probable makes the 53 without that injury last season and Carrier doesn't even see the field or the top 53 without the injuries last season.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I agree that Hayne is a better athlete, and has better accolades, but I don't feel comfortable with a Rugby player turned NFL player, who's never played football returning Kicks and Punts, I rather Ellington, Bush or someone with real experience handling those situations. And not Hayne. I just can't see Hayne making the team, not at RB, as Bush, Davis, Hunter, and Hyde are all above him, and better than him. And at KR/PR, he has no experience doing it. I rather have someone like Bush doing it, as I'm less afraid of seeing bush back there then seeing Hayne back there, would feel like Kyle Williams all over again, where at least Williams played college football, where Hayne has never played a down. At best Hayne is a ST player, on kick uni, or coverage unit, he shouldn't see action as a RB or Returner, he should IMO be on the practice squad in 2015, because if you keep Hayne at the expense of someone who can help more, than that is a bad move, and looks like a PR stunt to get more people talking because we have Hayne, a rugby all star on the team.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I realize that you shouldn't make decisions soley on money, it happens a lot in the NFL. I don't think they gave Carrier a 2yr extension and a $400k signing bonus to just release him a few months later, makes no sense, when they have minimal dead money with someone else released.