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2nd round head scratchers
May 4, 2015 at 10:50 AM
- VoiceofReason
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Long time reader but first time poster. I usually give Trent B. the benefit of the doubt when it comes to decisions on who the 49ers keep or don't keep, sign or don't sign. But there is very specific area that he has always confused me...2nd round picks!!! This isn't crying over spilled milk because I never liked or understood several of his 2nd round picks. Trent drafted Taylor Mays, LaMichael James, Carlos Hyde and now Tartt in the 2nd round. I didn't like any of the picks when they were made. Don't get me wrong, I like Carlos Hyde and have high hopes for him this year. But when we drafted him I thought there were more pressing needs than a RB. The other three picks just infuriated me and in my opinion were wasted picks from the start. How do you build a winning team when you keep wasting second round picks? Does anyone else feel the same way?
May 4, 2015 at 10:52 AM
- SoCold
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^did not read
but the entire draft was a head scratcher
drafting the 11th ranked punter
drafting the 47th ranked OT
drafting two TE's and not drafting an ILB or CB
but the entire draft was a head scratcher
drafting the 11th ranked punter
drafting the 47th ranked OT
drafting two TE's and not drafting an ILB or CB
May 4, 2015 at 10:53 AM
- crake49
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I can't lay Taylor Mays on Baalke. I've read a number of accounts of that draft that said Baalke was mainly interested in Kam Chancellor, but Singletary was adamant that he wanted Mays.
May 4, 2015 at 10:58 AM
- Hitman49
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Don't forget drafting Vance Mcdonald when Zach Ertz was on the board...TB has had more misses then hits...
May 4, 2015 at 10:59 AM
- OKC49erFan
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Originally posted by crake49:I can't lay Taylor Mays on Baalke. I've read a number of accounts of that draft that said Baalke was mainly interested in Kam Chancellor, but Singletary was adamant that he wanted Mays.
Singletary was yelling in the war room. Looked belligerent, as he often did. Baalke gave in, which I'm sure he always regretted.
May 4, 2015 at 10:59 AM
- Marvin49
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Originally posted by VoiceofReason:
Long time reader but first time poster. I usually give Trent B. the benefit of the doubt when it comes to decisions on who the 49ers keep or don't keep, sign or don't sign. But there is very specific area that he has always confused me...2nd round picks!!! This isn't crying over spilled milk because I never liked or understood several of his 2nd round picks. Trent drafted Taylor Mays, LaMichael James, Carlos Hyde and now Tartt in the 2nd round. I didn't like any of the picks when they were made. Don't get me wrong, I like Carlos Hyde and have high hopes for him this year. But when we drafted him I thought there were more pressing needs than a RB. The other three picks just infuriated me and in my opinion were wasted picks from the start. How do you build a winning team when you keep wasting second round picks? Does anyone else feel the same way?
1) Mays was really a Singletary Pick.
2) James was BPA...didn't work out.
3) Hyde was taken to play THIS year...which he will. Baalke drafts for future need, not immediate need.
3) Read the above for Tartt.
May 4, 2015 at 11:02 AM
- SoCold
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Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Originally posted by crake49:
I can't lay Taylor Mays on Baalke. I've read a number of accounts of that draft that said Baalke was mainly interested in Kam Chancellor, but Singletary was adamant that he wanted Mays.
Singletary was yelling in the war room. Looked belligerent, as he often did. Baalke gave in, which I'm sure he always regretted.
Mike was telling Trent to take Bowman in the 2nd and Trent picked Mays, lucky for us Bowman was still there in the 3rd
May 4, 2015 at 11:02 AM
- natrone06
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Originally posted by Hitman49:
Don't forget drafting Vance Mcdonald when Zach Ertz was on the board...TB has had more misses then hits...
....like all GMs. You have to see the forrest through the trees and compare to the rest of the lg when evaluating how a gm does.
May 4, 2015 at 11:02 AM
- Gore_21
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Originally posted by crake49:
I can't lay Taylor Mays on Baalke. I've read a number of accounts of that draft that said Baalke was mainly interested in Kam Chancellor, but Singletary was adamant that he wanted Mays.
This, plus Harbaugh wanted James. He said he killed them every time they played so he wanted him on his team. Baalke is more of a bigger RB guy. Baalke likes big over speed.
May 4, 2015 at 11:02 AM
- natrone06
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Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Originally posted by crake49:
I can't lay Taylor Mays on Baalke. I've read a number of accounts of that draft that said Baalke was mainly interested in Kam Chancellor, but Singletary was adamant that he wanted Mays.
Singletary was yelling in the war room. Looked belligerent, as he often did. Baalke gave in, which I'm sure he always regretted.
Mike was telling Trent to take Bowman in the 2nd and Trent picked Mays, lucky for us Bowman was still there in the 3rd
Oh you were there lol?
May 4, 2015 at 11:08 AM
- SoCold
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Originally posted by natrone06:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Originally posted by crake49:
I can't lay Taylor Mays on Baalke. I've read a number of accounts of that draft that said Baalke was mainly interested in Kam Chancellor, but Singletary was adamant that he wanted Mays.
Singletary was yelling in the war room. Looked belligerent, as he often did. Baalke gave in, which I'm sure he always regretted.
Mike was telling Trent to take Bowman in the 2nd and Trent picked Mays, lucky for us Bowman was still there in the 3rd
Oh you were there lol?
if you haven't noticed Trent is in love with drafting Safeties
2010
2nd Rnd - Taylor Mays
2011
3rd Rnd - Chris Culliver
6th Rnd - Colin Jones
2012
6th Rnd - Trenton Robinson
2013
1st Rnd - Eric Reid
3rd Rnd - Corey Lemonier
2014
1st Rnd - Jimmie Ward
2015
2nd Rnd - Jaquiski Tartt
He also loves turning those Safeties into CBs and LBs
[ Edited by SoCold on May 4, 2015 at 11:08 AM ]
May 4, 2015 at 11:10 AM
- natrone06
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Originally posted by VoiceofReason:
Long time reader but first time poster. I usually give Trent B. the benefit of the doubt when it comes to decisions on who the 49ers keep or don't keep, sign or don't sign. But there is very specific area that he has always confused me...2nd round picks!!! This isn't crying over spilled milk because I never liked or understood several of his 2nd round picks. Trent drafted Taylor Mays, LaMichael James, Carlos Hyde and now Tartt in the 2nd round. I didn't like any of the picks when they were made. Don't get me wrong, I like Carlos Hyde and have high hopes for him this year. But when we drafted him I thought there were more pressing needs than a RB. The other three picks just infuriated me and in my opinion were wasted picks from the start. How do you build a winning team when you keep wasting second round picks? Does anyone else feel the same way?
In Balkes time as a GM 12/160 2nd round picks have made a pro bowl in the nfl. 5 of those came from the 2010 nfl draft. BEING A GM IS HARD.
May 4, 2015 at 11:11 AM
- natrone06
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Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by natrone06:
Originally posted by SoCold:
Originally posted by OKC49erFan:
Originally posted by crake49:
I can't lay Taylor Mays on Baalke. I've read a number of accounts of that draft that said Baalke was mainly interested in Kam Chancellor, but Singletary was adamant that he wanted Mays.
Singletary was yelling in the war room. Looked belligerent, as he often did. Baalke gave in, which I'm sure he always regretted.
Mike was telling Trent to take Bowman in the 2nd and Trent picked Mays, lucky for us Bowman was still there in the 3rd
Oh you were there lol?
if you haven't noticed Trent is in love with drafting Safeties
2010
2nd Rnd - Taylor Mays
2011
3rd Rnd - Chris Culliver
6th Rnd - Colin Jones
2012
6th Rnd - Trenton Robinson
2013
1st Rnd - Eric Reid
3rd Rnd - Corey Lemonier
2014
1st Rnd - Jimmie Ward
2015
2nd Rnd - Jaquiski Tartt
He also loves turning those Safeties into CBs and LBs
THAT IS YOUR EVIDENCE FOR YOUR CLAIM? (and you do know Corey Lemonier is not a safety right?)
[ Edited by natrone06 on May 4, 2015 at 11:19 AM ]
May 4, 2015 at 11:13 AM
- genus49
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Originally posted by SoCold:
Mike was telling Trent to take Bowman in the 2nd and Trent picked Mays, lucky for us Bowman was still there in the 3rd
I see you got into the hall of fame for pulling things out your ass?
May 4, 2015 at 11:13 AM
- susweel
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Originally posted by SoCold:
^did not read
but the entire draft was a head scratcher
drafting the 11th ranked punter
drafting the 47th ranked OT
drafting two TE's and not drafting an ILB or CB
this