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Originally posted by NCommand:

thanks, very cool.
Although i would change a few things...
-Swap Johnson over to the RCB for either Wright or Cook.
-Swap Reaser for McFadden (although Reaser is unproven
-Move Dial to LE
-Swap Dockett for Dial at LE
Originally posted by NCommand:

Good stuff NCommand. But few things, Renfrow is a OT for the 49ers, not a NT.

I would put Marcus Martin as average or not enough info, he has a lot of talent and upside.
nvm NCommand, didn't know this was from PFF. Some things are way off, Aldon is elite when he has head on straight. And also Tanner isn't even under contract anymore.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by NCommand:

Good stuff NCommand. But few things, Renfrow is a OT for the 49ers, not a NT.

I would put Marcus Martin as average or not enough info, he has a lot of talent and upside.

LMAO! You beat me to that one...what a joke...it's right on many but man, how do you screw up a roster THAT bad!?
Originally posted by Hoovtrain:
Originally posted by NCommand:

thanks, very cool.

You bet but that's from PFF...sorry...s/h specified that AND checked it's accuracy, of which, well...kind of blows. LOL
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
nvm NCommand, didn't know this was from PFF. Some things are way off, Aldon is elite when he has head on straight. And also Tanner isn't even under contract anymore.

Yeah, it's a cool chart but some of the ratings are off. Most notably:

- Aldon should be elite.
- Reid is better than average.
- Vernon and McDonald are rated the same lmao

I have a feeling a few of our players will be more respected by the end of the season.
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Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
nvm NCommand, didn't know this was from PFF. Some things are way off, Aldon is elite when he has head on straight. And also Tanner isn't even under contract anymore.

Yeah, it's a cool chart but some of the ratings are off. Most notably:

- Aldon should be elite.
- Reid is better than average.
- Vernon and McDonald are rated the same lmao

I have a feeling a few of our players will be more respected by the end of the season.

They did the same thing with Aldon last year, and said it was just due to suspension/off field stuff. Last year VD was one of the worst tight ends in the league though, so we'll see if he can rebound.
Originally posted by Disp:
They did the same thing with Aldon last year, and said it was just due to suspension/off field stuff. Last year VD was one of the worst tight ends in the league though, so we'll see if he can rebound.

Makes sense. Based on ability alone, Aldon is clearly elite. But if they're factoring in games missed due to suspension, it makes sense his grade would be lower.

VD was truly awful last year. Not just in the passing game, but his blocking fell off too. He looked banged up and discouraged. Throwing to the TE's also wasn't a priority last year. It was a very WR-centric offense, and it was not effective. We need to get Vernon to bounce back this year, starting with involving him more in the passing game.

Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Disp:
They did the same thing with Aldon last year, and said it was just due to suspension/off field stuff. Last year VD was one of the worst tight ends in the league though, so we'll see if he can rebound.

Makes sense. Based on ability alone, Aldon is clearly elite. But if they're factoring in games missed due to suspension, it makes sense his grade would be lower.

VD was truly awful last year. Not just in the passing game, but his blocking fell off too. He looked banged up and discouraged. Throwing to the TE's also wasn't a priority last year. It was a very WR-centric offense, and it was not effective. We need to get Vernon to bounce back this year, starting with involving him more in the passing game.

Then Dockett and Martin and Ward and others would be classified as, 'not enough info'? Is this career accumulation? Last full year grade?
[ Edited by NCommand on Jun 4, 2015 at 3:31 PM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Then Dockett and Martin and Ward and others would be classified as, 'not enough info'? Is this career accumulation? Last full year grade?

Here's what they say:

1. The grade given is for now – it's not a prediction of future development. While it's primarily based on last year (or their last year of action) it does include more than just a nod to their career. For example, if a corner played well up until 2014 and then stunk, we'll take account of his better years as well. Further, this is an opinion based series, as a group we have had a series of discussions to weigh up which rating to give each player. No one in PFF believes the overall grades are absolutely definitive and neither should you. For example, how should one weight the relative receiving and blocking skills of a tight end? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Then Dockett and Martin and Ward and others would be classified as, 'not enough info'? Is this career accumulation? Last full year grade?

Here's what they say:

1. The grade given is for now – it's not a prediction of future development. While it's primarily based on last year (or their last year of action) it does include more than just a nod to their career. For example, if a corner played well up until 2014 and then stunk, we'll take account of his better years as well. Further, this is an opinion based series, as a group we have had a series of discussions to weigh up which rating to give each player. No one in PFF believes the overall grades are absolutely definitive and neither should you. For example, how should one weight the relative receiving and blocking skills of a tight end? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

That's a bit better (and thanks!). But man, Renfrow at NT? LOL. We should do our own.
Originally posted by NCommand:
That's a bit better (and thanks!). But man, Renfrow at NT? LOL. We should do our own.

Np, and we should definitely rely more on our own roster breakdowns lol. The guys who cover the entire league are spread too thin.
Reid is average? Since when is a pro bowl player 'average.'
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