I posted this in the Parrish thread and feel it needs its own thread:
"Man, it's just chemistry. It's not about personnel....when you see a team with this much success and talent, it's all about the chemistry, especially on OFFENSE when timing and execution is so critical. I swear man, as a defender I've seen teams go through issues like this and I'm telling you, you can read what's going on so easily [he turns away from me towards my friend staring right at him to indicate that deer in the headlights look] ...it looks like every play is like this [motions throwing ball directly to defender]! like i'm going to throw the ball right at you [defender].....look, all teams have tendencies but when you cannot even do the few things you're good at right, something is up [laughs]."
That comment on tendencies was in response to me saying "I've been hearing teams have had the Niners' offensive tendencies down pact".......the whole Harbaugh/Roman thing he didn't even begin to touch. Only thing he would say was a bit of a 50/50 "I'm beginning to think that Harbaugh is probably part of the problem at this point.". Read more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/139669-let-look-back-tony-parrish/page4/#4DHgYhzZd6g4J70B.99
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Dec 11, 2014 at 4:32 AM
- JTsBiggestFan
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Dec 11, 2014 at 4:56 AM
- BobS
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I will blame coaching when I see better blocking, better catching and better throws. Looks like no matter how bad people say the play calling is the plays appear that they would work just fine if all 11 guys executed what they were supposed to do correctly.
Dec 11, 2014 at 5:34 AM
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Originally posted by BobS:I will blame coaching when I see better blocking, better catching and better throws. Looks like no matter how bad people say the play calling is the plays appear that they would work just fine if all 11 guys executed what they were supposed to do correctly.
All symptoms of bad coaching
Dec 11, 2014 at 5:55 AM
- NinerG94
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Originally posted by Geeked:
All symptoms of bad coaching
Let me get this straight. You're saying good coaching is going to somehow make j mart able to block Robert quin. Good coaching is going to give Wilhoite football instincts, and going to make mcfadden, and Johnson able to cover guys like Brandon marshall? You know nothing. The coaches didn't forget how to coach all of a sudden. This roster is badly over rated. Especially on offense. But again, let's fire coach Harbaugh. That's gotta be the right thing to do. You better not be one bit ching next season when Harbaugh s new team destroys us and the 49ers spend the next 10 years looking for a competitive coach.
Dec 11, 2014 at 5:59 AM
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Originally posted by NinerG94:
Originally posted by Geeked:
All symptoms of bad coaching
Let me get this straight. You're saying good coaching is going to somehow make j mart able to block Robert quin. Good coaching is going to give Wilhoite football instincts, and going to make mcfadden, and Johnson able to cover guys like Brandon marshall? You know nothing. The coaches didn't forget how to coach all of a sudden. This roster is badly over rated. Especially on offense. But again, let's fire coach Harbaugh. That's gotta be the right thing to do. You better not be one bit ching next season when Harbaugh s new team destroys us and the 49ers spend the next 10 years looking for a competitive coach.
No, I inferred that uncoordinated efforts are generally symptoms of poor tutelage. All that other junk you wrote was a misguided and self serving assumption to help craft a baseless point.
Dec 11, 2014 at 7:22 AM
- brodiebluebanaszak
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Originally posted by NinerG94:Let me get this straight. You're saying good coaching is going to somehow make j mart able to block Robert quin. Good coaching is going to give Wilhoite football instincts, and going to make mcfadden, and Johnson able to cover guys like Brandon marshall? You know nothing. The coaches didn't forget how to coach all of a sudden. This roster is badly over rated. Especially on offense. But again, let's fire coach Harbaugh. That's gotta be the right thing to do. You better not be one bit ching next season when Harbaugh s new team destroys us and the 49ers spend the next 10 years looking for a competitive coach.
Fail. Consistently the ball 20 uards downfield on 2and8 is bad bad coaching. All pros everywhere wont win with that. Its usually 60 40 coaching execution. Imo. So yes coaching gameplanming play desogn plau sequencing MATTER.
Dec 11, 2014 at 7:33 AM
- InsertNameHere1
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Originally posted by Geeked:
Originally posted by NinerG94:
Originally posted by Geeked:
All symptoms of bad coaching
Let me get this straight. You're saying good coaching is going to somehow make j mart able to block Robert quin. Good coaching is going to give Wilhoite football instincts, and going to make mcfadden, and Johnson able to cover guys like Brandon marshall? You know nothing. The coaches didn't forget how to coach all of a sudden. This roster is badly over rated. Especially on offense. But again, let's fire coach Harbaugh. That's gotta be the right thing to do. You better not be one bit ching next season when Harbaugh s new team destroys us and the 49ers spend the next 10 years looking for a competitive coach.
No, I inferred that uncoordinated efforts are generally symptoms of poor tutelage. All that other junk you wrote was a misguided and self serving assumption to help craft a baseless point.
Some people just don't understand how important coaching is.
Nolan-brought us the 3-4 and a few players
Singletary-turned and bunch of boys into men
Harbaugh-gave us team unity
Hopefully the next coach can bring us better game planning, in game management and get us over the top, we'll see.
Dec 11, 2014 at 8:03 AM
- 9ersLiferInChicago
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Originally posted by InsertNameHere:****NEWS FLASH****
Originally posted by Geeked:
Originally posted by NinerG94:
Originally posted by Geeked:
All symptoms of bad coaching
Let me get this straight. You're saying good coaching is going to somehow make j mart able to block Robert quin. Good coaching is going to give Wilhoite football instincts, and going to make mcfadden, and Johnson able to cover guys like Brandon marshall? You know nothing. The coaches didn't forget how to coach all of a sudden. This roster is badly over rated. Especially on offense. But again, let's fire coach Harbaugh. That's gotta be the right thing to do. You better not be one bit ching next season when Harbaugh s new team destroys us and the 49ers spend the next 10 years looking for a competitive coach.
No, I inferred that uncoordinated efforts are generally symptoms of poor tutelage. All that other junk you wrote was a misguided and self serving assumption to help craft a baseless point.
Some people just don't understand how important coaching is.
Nolan-brought us the 3-4 and a few players
Singletary-turned and bunch of boys into men
Harbaugh-gave us team unity
Hopefully the next coach can bring us better game planning, in game management and get us over the top, we'll see.
Scheme and coaching matters!! Matching scheme with personnel matters!! You just cannot throw a scheme at at a roster and expect execution just because the scheme, by itself, is a good scheme. It is the job of the coaches, NOT THE PLAYERS, to gameplan and scheme effectively. When teams have this kind of drastic drop off of production offensively, and you can't point to any evidence of opposing defenses actually consistently stopping what you did during your successful seasons, you have to look at the scheme the players are being asked to execute. There's just no way around that.
Everyone talks about how the zone-read cannot win a championship, that QB's cannot run it consistently without injury (and people point at RG3 as evidence), that - according to the football evangelist - games are won from the pocket. But people conveniently forget or ignore the three previous seasons the 49ers had running it with major success, and the SB the Seaducks won running it. So, to go away from what actually worked to something that don't fit your personnel is ALL COACHING, not the players.
Dec 11, 2014 at 8:21 AM
- InsertNameHere1
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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:It's almost pointless to try and explain it to some of the guys around here. They hate Kaepernick so much that they just don't want to hear it. So, what can you do.....
Originally posted by InsertNameHere:****NEWS FLASH****
Originally posted by Geeked:
Originally posted by NinerG94:
Originally posted by Geeked:
All symptoms of bad coaching
Let me get this straight. You're saying good coaching is going to somehow make j mart able to block Robert quin. Good coaching is going to give Wilhoite football instincts, and going to make mcfadden, and Johnson able to cover guys like Brandon marshall? You know nothing. The coaches didn't forget how to coach all of a sudden. This roster is badly over rated. Especially on offense. But again, let's fire coach Harbaugh. That's gotta be the right thing to do. You better not be one bit ching next season when Harbaugh s new team destroys us and the 49ers spend the next 10 years looking for a competitive coach.
No, I inferred that uncoordinated efforts are generally symptoms of poor tutelage. All that other junk you wrote was a misguided and self serving assumption to help craft a baseless point.
Some people just don't understand how important coaching is.
Nolan-brought us the 3-4 and a few players
Singletary-turned and bunch of boys into men
Harbaugh-gave us team unity
Hopefully the next coach can bring us better game planning, in game management and get us over the top, we'll see.
Scheme and coaching matters!! Matching scheme with personnel matters!! You just cannot throw a scheme at at a roster and expect execution just because the scheme, by itself, is a good scheme. It is the job of the coaches, NOT THE PLAYERS, to gameplan and scheme effectively. When teams have this kind of drastic drop off of production offensively, and you can't point to any evidence of opposing defenses actually consistently stopping what you did during your successful seasons, you have to look at the scheme the players are being asked to execute. There's just no way around that.
Everyone talks about how the zone-read cannot win a championship, that QB's cannot run it consistently without injury (and people point at RG3 as evidence), that - according to the football evangelist - games are won from the pocket. But people conveniently forget or ignore the three previous seasons the 49ers had running it with major success, and the SB the Seaducks won running it. So, to go away from what actually worked to something that don't fit your personnel is ALL COACHING, not the players.
Dec 11, 2014 at 9:56 AM
- MarkD
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Exactly!Originally posted by BobS:I will blame coaching when I see better blocking, better catching and better throws. Looks like no matter how bad people say the play calling is the plays appear that they would work just fine if all 11 guys executed what they were supposed to do correctly.
Dec 11, 2014 at 10:38 AM
- pete98146
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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
****NEWS FLASH****
Scheme and coaching matters!! Matching scheme with personnel matters!! You just cannot throw a scheme at at a roster and expect execution just because the scheme, by itself, is a good scheme. It is the job of the coaches, NOT THE PLAYERS, to gameplan and scheme effectively. When teams have this kind of drastic drop off of production offensively, and you can't point to any evidence of opposing defenses actually consistently stopping what you did during your successful seasons, you have to look at the scheme the players are being asked to execute. There's just no way around that.
Everyone talks about how the zone-read cannot win a championship, that QB's cannot run it consistently without injury (and people point at RG3 as evidence), that - according to the football evangelist - games are won from the pocket. But people conveniently forget or ignore the three previous seasons the 49ers had running it with major success, and the SB the Seaducks won running it. So, to go away from what actually worked to something that don't fit your personnel is ALL COACHING, not the players.
Bingo! I grab a Webster's Dictionary. Look up the words "balanced" and " flexible". I promise you won't see Jim Harbaugh's picture
Dec 11, 2014 at 10:44 AM
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Brandon Lloyd plague.
Dec 12, 2014 at 10:40 AM
- Constantine
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Good read, and I hope as a team and individual men they can fix whatever problems thier might be instead of a nasty divorse. And as a die hard fan ot would help if other fans would not be so critical on assumption and not add fuel to a miss placed fire. As humans we will make mistakes and where it lies in the front office in SF 49ers can be handled correctly without bashing others and giving anyone a reason to leave. Dont forget what what Trent and Jim has for us and. Chris Callingsworth said that on national Tv and if anyone is going to haye the Niners os him.