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Which combination of WR do you think should (not will) make the team?
Aug 21, 2014 at 8:11 AM
- GoreGoreGore
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problem with keeping lloyd / stevie, any of those guys EVER play ST? they will have to now, but divas don't play ST.
Aug 21, 2014 at 8:15 AM
- NinerBuff
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Locks:
Crabtree, Boldin, Patton, Ellington
Our #1 and #2 WRs, plus the young guys who are cheap and under contract.
Very Good Chance
Johnson
Likely to make the team, but his salary is high so it's not a sure thing.
50/50 shot
Lloyd
His deep speed will be what makes it for him. His lack of ST value is what will keep him off the roster. Only time will tell.
Doubtful
Osgood, Reed, Wylie, Washington
With other gunners like Ward, McCray, and others playing more pressing positions of need, Osgood seems like a longshot. The others... Even less.
Crabtree, Boldin, Patton, Ellington
Our #1 and #2 WRs, plus the young guys who are cheap and under contract.
Very Good Chance
Johnson
Likely to make the team, but his salary is high so it's not a sure thing.
50/50 shot
Lloyd
His deep speed will be what makes it for him. His lack of ST value is what will keep him off the roster. Only time will tell.
Doubtful
Osgood, Reed, Wylie, Washington
With other gunners like Ward, McCray, and others playing more pressing positions of need, Osgood seems like a longshot. The others... Even less.
Aug 21, 2014 at 8:15 AM
- Baldie
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Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Baldie:
Seriously, some of you cutting Johnson? I know he may not have shown much in preseason but I gaurantee he'll be an asset during the regular season and possibly the playoffs.
Lloyd is a definite keeper. He burned Talib on that "could have been" a TD. Had it been a TD, this wouldn't even be discussed. Lloyd still has the speed and hands and the fact that he won't be playing every down (like Johnson) he will be fresh through out games. If there's ever a time Crabs/Boldin come out for a breather and Johnson/Lloyd take their place, I am cool with that.
Crabs
Boldin
Johnson
Lloyd
Patton
Ellington
I want it to be this. SJ is making this roster. IMO, he's the biggest offseason acquisition in the NFC West. It's time for one of Morris, Spillman, Ward to step up as ST gunner and get Osgood off the team. I think I'm okay with a step down from the gunner position in exchange for some added depth at the CB (Morris) or WR (Lloyd) position.
Well he's certainly a significant acquisition. The additions on offense were added because of the Seattle D (Hyde, Johnson, Lloyd, etc.). To cut a guy whose had the most success against Sherman? Really? Because he hasn't caught much in Preseason? Really? With Johnson/Lloyd, in theory, the Seattle D is in trouble because you can't cover Crabs/Boldin/Johnson/Lloyd/Davis/Gore one-on-one. Oh and Kaep can also run to. If Manning had been a mobile QB, I think the SB plays out differently. Maybe not a Denver win but it wouldn't have been a blow out.
If Johnson/Lloyd were cut, they wouldn't last long on the market. In fact wouldn't be surprised if an NFC West team picked them up or one of them up.
Aug 21, 2014 at 8:19 AM
- Stevec9932
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Keep:
Crab
Lloyd
Reed (showed great skill set)
Washington (showed great speed)
Wylie
Osgood
Cut:
Boldin
Johnson
Patton
Ellington (bust)
LOL at this... Boldin, Johnson and Ellington are making the team...
Aug 21, 2014 at 8:33 AM
- theduke85
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:No offense, but you are absolutely insane.
Keep:
Crab
Lloyd
Reed (showed great skill set)
Washington (showed great speed)
Wylie
Osgood
Cut:
Boldin
Johnson
Patton
Ellington (bust)
There is no way that we cut Patton and keep Crabtree. Crabtree is going to walk at the end of the year, is injury prone, and is a huge diva. Patton is cheap, a willing worker, and our future at the position.
Otherwise though I think you nailed it.
Aug 21, 2014 at 8:38 AM
- theduke85
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Originally posted by deepniner:So, in your proposed 53-man, you have Will Tukuafu making the team over Stevie Johnson?! No way! I can't see that happening.
Furthermore, I believe that we should go with only four RBs, Gore, Hyde, Miller and Tukuafu and two QBs since there are no QBs to develop at the moment and we're already screwed as it is w/ the backup QB situation. That would allow us to keep six WRs.
I could be convinced of keeping Johnson over Lloyd. But based on what we've been hearing through camp, it seems like Lloyd has actually out-performed Johnson and thus deserves to be on the team over SJ. Sad, since it would have been nice to keep SJ.
Aug 21, 2014 at 8:38 AM
- theduke85
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By the way, let me add one more thing: it's insane the depth we have at wide receiver. We have so many viable receiver candidates that all of them may not make the team. When is the last time that's happened?
[ Edited by theduke85 on Aug 21, 2014 at 8:39 AM ]
Aug 21, 2014 at 8:42 AM
- LasVegasWally
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Originally posted by BleedsRedNGold:We're keeping 6 WR. After last season, Harbs won't take any chances.
It will be Crabs, Boldin, Johnson, Lloyd, Ellington and Patton
It's a shame that Patton isn't showing anything this preseason. He's one of those in-the-middle receivers (not tall, not particularly fast). The problem is that we have three of them. Patton is faster than Brandon Lloyd, so I'm not sure why he wasn't targeted for the long bomb.
This.
I don't know why Patton hasn't been ttargeted for thhe deep bomb BBUT Lloyd has for some reason. So, IMO, keep him and that will open up both the running game and opportunities for the other receivers - especially VD.
Aug 21, 2014 at 8:43 AM
- Dsoto87
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Didn't see Stevie Johnson in the first set of receivers.
Skipped rest of thread. No point in continuing if your predictions are this off base.
Skipped rest of thread. No point in continuing if your predictions are this off base.
Aug 21, 2014 at 8:45 AM
- Jumpman23
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Originally posted by deepniner:
yeah I agree. btw - that should have been a penalty.
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Keep:
Crab
Lloyd
Reed (showed great skill set)
Washington (showed great speed)
Wylie
Osgood
Cut:
Boldin
Johnson
Patton
Ellington (bust)
god I hope this a joke.... they should got crabtree while they are at it. and cut frank gore and keep hampton
Aug 21, 2014 at 8:45 AM
- NeonNiner
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Originally posted by Baldie:Originally posted by thl408:Originally posted by Baldie:Seriously, some of you cutting Johnson? I know he may not have shown much in preseason but I gaurantee he'll be an asset during the regular season and possibly the playoffs.
Lloyd is a definite keeper. He burned Talib on that "could have been" a TD. Had it been a TD, this wouldn't even be discussed. Lloyd still has the speed and hands and the fact that he won't be playing every down (like Johnson) he will be fresh through out games. If there's ever a time Crabs/Boldin come out for a breather and Johnson/Lloyd take their place, I am cool with that.
Crabs
Boldin
Johnson
Lloyd
Patton
Ellington
I want it to be this. SJ is making this roster. IMO, he's the biggest offseason acquisition in the NFC West. It's time for one of Morris, Spillman, Ward to step up as ST gunner and get Osgood off the team. I think I'm okay with a step down from the gunner position in exchange for some added depth at the CB (Morris) or WR (Lloyd) position.
Well he's certainly a significant acquisition. The additions on offense were added because of the Seattle D (Hyde, Johnson, Lloyd, etc.). To cut a guy whose had the most success against Sherman? Really? Because he hasn't caught much in Preseason? Really? With Johnson/Lloyd, in theory, the Seattle D is in trouble because you can't cover Crabs/Boldin/Johnson/Lloyd/Davis/Gore one-on-one. Oh and Kaep can also run to. If Manning had been a mobile QB, I think the SB plays out differently. Maybe not a Denver win but it wouldn't have been a blow out.
If Johnson/Lloyd were cut, they wouldn't last long on the market. In fact wouldn't be surprised if an NFC West team picked them up or one of them up.
Lambs or Cawks would be one of the first teams to scoop one of them up and it'd be a very solid acquisition as both teams are thin at WR.
Wouldn't even think about Johnson getting cut. He's arguably our biggest offseason addition and we invested a pick in him; no way we give up on him this soon. Still learning the system and getting used to a new QB. He'll be fine and a big contributor next season, especially against SEA.
Lloyd is a bit trickier but I have him making the team, especially if he follows up with two strong performances in the next preseason games. He adds nice depth behind Stevie as a #4 WR.
Osgood the odd man out. Purely ST gunner, adds next to nothing at WR.
[ Edited by NeonNiner on Aug 21, 2014 at 8:49 AM ]
Aug 21, 2014 at 8:45 AM
- ElephantHaley
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#1. Boldin
#2. Crabs
#3. Stevie
#4. Lloyd
#5. Patton
#6. Ellington
#7 Osgood needs to make it as a gunner which they should keep him and Dump Dobbs DE
#2. Crabs
#3. Stevie
#4. Lloyd
#5. Patton
#6. Ellington
#7 Osgood needs to make it as a gunner which they should keep him and Dump Dobbs DE
Aug 21, 2014 at 8:48 AM
- crake49
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The locks are Boldin, Crabtree, Johnson, Ellington and Patton
The sixth receiver is either Lloyd or Osgood (for special teams) or Wylie (for special teams)
Since Lloyd doesn't play ST, isn't a good blocker, and isn't faster than four out of five of the locks, he looks to me to be in the weakest position.
The sixth receiver is either Lloyd or Osgood (for special teams) or Wylie (for special teams)
Since Lloyd doesn't play ST, isn't a good blocker, and isn't faster than four out of five of the locks, he looks to me to be in the weakest position.
Aug 21, 2014 at 8:55 AM
- CorvaNinerFan
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Since we've seen precious little of most of our vet WR's, I'll wait 'til after Sunday's game w/Bolts. I'd disagree with cutting Boldin (never happen), Patton or Ellington. Anquan's just too tough and the latter are youngsters with a high ceiling. I'm thinking Lloyd will get the nod over SJ if it comes to that, and it might.
Aug 21, 2014 at 9:01 AM
- pasodoc9er
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Somehow, I think Osgood is yet another of Coach H's undiscovered and unused talents. I think with some real time reps, the kid can be a very good receiver, and is taller than virtually all others. Plus he looks like a refrigerator, compared to patton, who looks like he is undernourished. Osgood is terrific on STs but I think Coach has missed a bet not putting him in on 3rd and 3 yds to go. He blocks, and he can catch, but as usual, JH doesn't give him the chance to see what he can do. Jh is my coach and I love the guy. But his biggest failing, IMO, is his inability to give guys a shot at starting(in this case as a WR), specifically as a slot, but any WR position I think he will do well with.
Yeah, Osgood is a rocket and is down there on punts, downing them on the 1 yd line, but also, the kid has good eyes and hands (Hand-eye coordination) so that he can also catch the crazy bouncing ball before it crosses the goal line. Give him a shot Coach, you might just be surprised.
And yes, that means that LLoyd or patton don't make it. I know there is a huge patton fan base, but for the life of me, I just don't see him as a big time starter.
Yeah, Osgood is a rocket and is down there on punts, downing them on the 1 yd line, but also, the kid has good eyes and hands (Hand-eye coordination) so that he can also catch the crazy bouncing ball before it crosses the goal line. Give him a shot Coach, you might just be surprised.
And yes, that means that LLoyd or patton don't make it. I know there is a huge patton fan base, but for the life of me, I just don't see him as a big time starter.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Aug 21, 2014 at 9:03 AM ]