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training camp rookie you most look forward to hearing good things about: who and why.

Originally posted by buck:
James(LJ) McCray

I always root for the small school UDFA.


And if you're right with those guys you can give out huge I told you so's to everyone.
I am very excited to see all the rookies on the field, but I am really looking forward to seeing how Ward does.
Originally posted by gold49er2183:
Originally posted by buck:
James(LJ) McCray

I always root for the small school UDFA.


And if you're right with those guys you can give out huge I told you so's to everyone.

Plus, it'd be great to knock Spillman's lazy ass off the team, followed by Dahl next year (I think they keep Dahl around for experience this year, but dude sucks. McCray is every bit the athlete Spillman is, so he can assume a big ST role, and he's reportedly already putting in more study time than Spillman ever has).

That said, my guy is Ellington. Logically, he shouldn't have a big role this year, but I can't help but be excited about the guy, and he's so athletic/instinctive/dedicated/hardworking, that it's tough to bet against him.

My logical choice is Ward. Love that kid, but I'm scared of metatarsal injuries. Some of those never get better. Here's hoping he has sufficient blood flow to provide for significant bone repair. That kid has exceptional ability, instincts, hands, and timing. He should be a big player for years.
Ward--because the niners need him to emerge to stabilize the position.
Originally posted by matt49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by xcfan:
oh, i wanna see lots of 3rd down and return opportunities at the very least.

This. The one thing that has killed us has been ST in coverage units in huge games and having next to nothing on our end. So I'd like to see any of these guys including the rookies absolutely become a dynamic returner for us. Ideally, it would be a guy like Ellington who can also add to our offense and knock James off this team.

So far...
PR/KOR: LaMichael James; Perrish Cox, Darryl Morris, Devon Wiley, Bruce Ellington, L.J. McCray & Kenneth Acker (even Carlos Hyde).

Had LMJ had enough return opportunities last year to qualify for the ranking, he would have ranked 4th in the NFL in both punt and kick return avg. I think him fumbling a cpl times muddled peoples opinion of him, when he fielded the ball cleanly, he did well (which he continuously got better at & per reports is looking even better at doing so this off season). I know we're stacked at RB and it's hard to imagine Gore, Hyde, Hunter, Lattimore AND LMJ all making the team but I think unless Ellington looks absolutely great at it that's what is and should happen. LMJ will essentially be looked at as a ST only type player similar to guys like Ventrone/Osgood only he's a return specialist.

You're probably right but he just doesn't instill confidence in me and he seems to have a very slow first step (no explosion) like you see with dynamic returners, or the ability to switch fields, weave through traffic like they aren't even there (he's OK), etc. But most of all, I just don't feel confident in his ability to field the ball 100% of the time like you do with a WR or a CB with great hands. That said, IF he has grown into that dynamic role and it shows this TC, I'll be elated. But clearly, he's got to earn that trust. This FO has bombed since letting Ginn go on taking this position very seriously. Hopefully, this time, they take it seriously.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jul 17, 2014 at 8:36 AM ]
I'm anxious to see Ellington on the field...but not sure how many opportunities he'll get as a WR. For that reason, I'm going w/Martin...we really need a beast at C and I'm sure he'll be one. He may not open the season as the starter, but he'll win the job.
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Im also going with McCray, I like to root for that longshot guy to make the team, and this guy seems like a baller
gotta go with Ward. He is our first round pick and I expect him to have a solid year.
2 guys...

Ward and Ellington. Those are the guys that can actually be starters (nickel S/CB and PR/KR, respectively).
Originally posted by matt49er:
Had LMJ had enough return opportunities last year to qualify for the ranking, he would have ranked 4th in the NFL in both punt and kick return avg. I think him fumbling a cpl times muddled peoples opinion of him, when he fielded the ball cleanly, he did well (which he continuously got better at & per reports is looking even better at doing so this off season). I know we're stacked at RB and it's hard to imagine Gore, Hyde, Hunter, Lattimore AND LMJ all making the team but I think unless Ellington looks absolutely great at it that's what is and should happen. LMJ will essentially be looked at as a ST only type player similar to guys like Ventrone/Osgood only he's a return specialist.

Yes, fumbling a couple of times does count. Very high pick to use on a return "specialist" who is learning on the job.
Originally posted by NCommand:
You're probably right but he just doesn't instill confidence in me and he seems to have a very slow first step (no explosion) like you see with dynamic returners, or the ability to switch fields, weave through traffic like they aren't even there (he's OK), etc. But most of all, I just don't feel confident in his ability to field the ball 100% of the time like you do with a WR or a CB with great hands. That said, IF he has grown into that dynamic role and it shows this TC, I'll be elated. But clearly, he's got to earn that trust. This FO has bombed since letting Ginn go on taking this position very seriously. Hopefully, this time, they take it seriously.

Ya I really feel that they settled with keeping LMJ as a punt returner. I cannot wait until he is no longer concidered the best at anything on the Niners. Ever since he fumbled in the SuperBowl, which i felt created the atmosphere for a wild game, I have had a personal distaste for the dude. He gives off a very deserving attitude for a guy that did not accomplish anything with this team. Hunters job was his to take he just never could...
Originally posted by cools:
Im also going with McCray, I like to root for that longshot guy to make the team, and this guy seems like a baller

I like him as well. He has the most return production of all our rookies, obviously should be able to play on coverage units AND possibly adds real upside skills at the S position above a guy like Dahl (and is much cheaper). He has a real shot.
Originally posted by rapid4:
Yes, fumbling a couple of times does count. Very high pick to use on a return "specialist" who is learning on the job.

... and does not have the tools to be a real threat to take it to the house IMO. I was rooting for the guy when we drafted him, but we got a punt specialist that cant return at an elite level, nor can he beat out our back ups... talk about a miss. only reason he is still here is depth, but hell soon be in another jersey. Let him be a back up on a mediocre team.
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Originally posted by cools:
Im also going with McCray, I like to root for that longshot guy to make the team, and this guy seems like a baller

He's definitely a long shot. All 90 players have a shot - otherwise they would not be here. It's going to be fun watching all the training camp battles. Harbaugh likes to give playing time to players that makes plays - so all McCray as to do to earn playing time is to just keep making plays.
Jimmy Ward.

He basically broke his ankle and is undersized but i think he is going to ball. Would love to see him covering the slot and see how they play him in cover 3

AND most of all because he is Carlos Rogers replacement!!!
[ Edited by JsilvaNINERSRUNIT on Jul 17, 2014 at 10:00 AM ]