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What if Vernon Davis refuses to play under the terms of his current contract?

If Vernon Davis simply refuses to play under his current contract, what leverage does the team have against him? Can they prevent him from going to another team for more money? If they keep him on the roster and he doesn't play, does his salary still go against the cap? What are the legal repercussions of Davis breaching his contract?
[ Edited by longtime49erfan on Jun 16, 2014 at 6:12 PM ]
If he holds out into the season, he will be docked a game check for each game missed. So he could conceivably forfeit his entire salary if he was that determined to sit out.

Which is why it's likely he shows up at some point. As important a player he is, he still has very little leverage. He might sit out training camp, but that won't sit well with the team, and no way he sits out into the season.

It's also highly unlikely you'll ever see players hold out into the season anymore. That used to happen mostly with rookies, who had yet to sign a deal, so they had nothing to lose and plenty of leverage. Not the case anymore with the new CBA.

Vernon has big money sitting on the table. He may not be satisfied with the amount, but no way in hell he forfeits that much money.
[ Edited by SofaKing on Jun 16, 2014 at 6:20 PM ]
To quote Alec baldwin's character in the departed "the world needs plenty of bartenders" honestly tho I think he will play.

Originally posted by longtime49erfan:
If Vernon Davis simply refuses to play under his current contract, what leverage does the team have against him? Can they prevent him from going to another team for more money? If they keep him on the roster and he doesn't play, does his salary still go against the cap? What are the legal repercussions of Davis breaching his contract?

He can't go anywhere, while under contract even if he doesn't play. He will lose money every game that he misses
He would lose all his cash payments this year, base and roster bonus if he holds out. The team will not pay him if he refuses to play. He also might lose a season towards free agency. Screwing himself over big time, and this is all his fault IMO.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
He would lose all his cash payments this year, base and roster bonus if he holds out. The team will not pay him if he refuses to play. He also might lose a season towards free agency. Screwing himself over big time, and this is all his fault IMO.

This good to know. I just don't get how he feels he is underpaid. You have TEs catch 90-100 balls for 1200+ yards and he has yet to do any of this. I have heard he is the third highest paid TE and the niners have paid him more than fair thru out his career. Especially when you consider he was hitting bust level after his first 2-3 years.
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After a cold shower and a pep talk with Singletary, he'll come to realize that contracts and the game ain't all about smoothies...
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
He would lose all his cash payments this year, base and roster bonus if he holds out. The team will not pay him if he refuses to play. He also might lose a season towards free agency. Screwing himself over big time, and this is all his fault IMO.

I agree. He doesn't have much leverage. He might hold out all training camp, but I doubt he'll go more than one or two games into the regular season. He loses too much money if he persists on holding out. His stock will drop.

He got 4+ million for issuing his stock. That is on top of what he'll get paid this year minus what he has to pay the stockholders. Which is, I think, just 10% of his salary this year. All he needs to do is produce on the field and win a super bowl and he can issue more stock and double what he got this year. If he misses too much camp and regular season games, I don't know if we get the home field advantage needed to get to the superbowl over seadderall. Then where will his brand and stock price be if we fall short of a superbowl win again?
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oh, yeah we need a new thread to talk about Vernon and his holdout.


Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
He would lose all his cash payments this year, base and roster bonus if he holds out. The team will not pay him if he refuses to play. He also might lose a season towards free agency. Screwing himself over big time, and this is all his fault IMO.

This good to know. I just don't get how he feels he is underpaid. You have TEs catch 90-100 balls for 1200+ yards and he has yet to do any of this. I have heard he is the third highest paid TE and the niners have paid him more than fair thru out his career. Especially when you consider he was hitting bust level after his first 2-3 years.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
He would lose all his cash payments this year, base and roster bonus if he holds out. The team will not pay him if he refuses to play. He also might lose a season towards free agency. Screwing himself over big time, and this is all his fault IMO.

I agree. He doesn't have much leverage. He might hold out all training camp, but I doubt he'll go more than one or two games into the regular season. He loses too much money if he persists on holding out. His stock will drop.

He got 4+ million for issuing his stock. That is on top of what he'll get paid this year minus what he has to pay the stockholders. Which is, I think, just 10% of his salary this year. All he needs to do is produce on the field and win a super bowl and he can issue more stock and double what he got this year. If he misses too much camp and regular season games, I don't know if we get the home field advantage needed to get to the Super Bowl over seadderall. Then where will his brand and stock price be if we fall short of a Super Bowl win again?

I agree with both of you. Frankly, it doesn't sit well with me in terms of his "branding" to carry a reputation for not honoring his agreements. He made a contract to play through the 2015 season. If he refuses to live up to its terms, then he is breaking his word, which doesn't speak well for his "brand".
[ Edited by longtime49erfan on Jun 16, 2014 at 8:03 PM ]
He'll show up when we start to roll up the victories w/out him.
Davis has no leverage. He's currently the 3rd highest paid TE in the NFL. He's 30 years old and under contract for two more years.
Hmmmm......I wonder if a prolonged highly publicized holdout will help his "name brand"?
Hopefully he doesn't hold out too long. The Niners are not going to give him a new contract so all this will do is result in him getting paid even less thanks to fines and forfeited game checks
Assuming he deserves a raise, I'd try to figure out what we could afford to give him and put it out there on the table. If we can't afford the raise or it was determined that he doesn't deserve one, I'd just be honest with him about and tell him he ain't getting it. Ofcourse I would write a guess column on MMQB.com outllining the reasons why he doesn't get s**t, it would be titled "Why Vernon Davis doesn't deserve jack".
[ Edited by T-9ers on Jun 16, 2014 at 8:23 PM ]