Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
You're not going back far enough. The curse of being a 49er fan is that you remember 5 super bowl wins. And expect one every year.
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
You're not going back far enough. The curse of being a 49er fan is that you remember 5 super bowl wins. And expect one every year.
Originally posted by jvangeystel:
The deal is rediculous. The 49ers just waived a peice of paper that said 126 million in front of Kaeps agent while slipping the contract which allows much less to be paid out right under their noses. If Kaep isn't an All pro or fails to make a superbowl appearance we dock him 2mil per year. If he crashes and burns than we cut him and move on. If he meets the requirements to get the incentive based money he deserves I it.
Originally posted by reefer333:
I am a bit confused on why the contract is team friendly. Can someone please explain what I am missing? I understand that the team can cut ties with Kap if he is not living it up to the contract, but assuming that doesn't happen, he will be eating up a big part of the salary cap every year. Here is the contract details. Starting 2015, he has big cap figures.
Compare to Joe Flacco's contract, at least the first three years, the cap hit is pretty low, and not sure about the details, but if they cut him in 2016, may be they only take a hit of $11.6M remaining signing bonus? Keep in mind that Flacco didn't have any year remaining when he signed his contract I believe, so we should be comparing Kap's 2015 to Flacco's 2013, Kap's 2016 to Flacco's 2014 and so on..
Originally posted by reefer333:
I am a bit confused on why the contract is team friendly. Can someone please explain what I am missing? I understand that the team can cut ties with Kap if he is not living it up to the contract, but assuming that doesn't happen, he will be eating up a big part of the salary cap every year. Here is the contract details. Starting 2015, he has big cap figures.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
1) First year number allow team to resign other players.
2) Low Signing bonus means little dead money if he is released.
3) "Guaranteed" money is year to year, IE he only gets it if on roster after April 1st.
4) His contract de-escalated (shrinks) by 2 mil in any season that doesn't take 80% of the snaps AND is either All-Pro or in a Super Bowl.
5) He has to buy an insurance plan that gives the 49ers 20 mil if he sustains a career ending injury.
6) Secures him for 7 full years at todays $$$ when the cap is about to rise DRAMATICALLY over the next several years (IE, this will look like chump change in 3 or 4 years).
Any more questions?
Originally posted by Marvin49:
1) First year number allow team to resign other players.
2) Low Signing bonus means little dead money if he is released.
3) "Guaranteed" money is year to year, IE he only gets it if on roster after April 1st.
4) His contract de-escalated (shrinks) by 2 mil in any season that doesn't take 80% of the snaps AND is either All-Pro or in a Super Bowl.
5) He has to buy an insurance plan that gives the 49ers 20 mil if he sustains a career ending injury.
6) Secures him for 7 full years at todays $$$ when the cap is about to rise DRAMATICALLY over the next several years (IE, this will look like chump change in 3 or 4 years).
Any more questions?
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by reefer333:
I am a bit confused on why the contract is team friendly. Can someone please explain what I am missing? I understand that the team can cut ties with Kap if he is not living it up to the contract, but assuming that doesn't happen, he will be eating up a big part of the salary cap every year. Here is the contract details. Starting 2015, he has big cap figures.
Compare to Joe Flacco's contract, at least the first three years, the cap hit is pretty low, and not sure about the details, but if they cut him in 2016, may be they only take a hit of $11.6M remaining signing bonus? Keep in mind that Flacco didn't have any year remaining when he signed his contract I believe, so we should be comparing Kap's 2015 to Flacco's 2013, Kap's 2016 to Flacco's 2014 and so on..
1) First year number allow team to resign other players.
2) Low Signing bonus means little dead money if he is released.
3) "Guaranteed" money is year to year, IE he only gets it if on roster after April 1st.
4) His contract de-escalated (shrinks) by 2 mil in any season that doesn't take 80% of the snaps AND is either All-Pro or in a Super Bowl.
5) He has to buy an insurance plan that gives the 49ers 20 mil if he sustains a career ending injury.
6) Secures him for 7 full years at todays $$$ when the cap is about to rise DRAMATICALLY over the next several years (IE, this will look like chump change in 3 or 4 years).
Any more questions?
Originally posted by JimHarbaugh:
I think we keep Crab, but Iupati and Boone are goners. Just in time for Kilgore/Martin and Thomas/Looney to take their spots.
Originally posted by reefer333:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
1) First year number allow team to resign other players.
2) Low Signing bonus means little dead money if he is released.
3) "Guaranteed" money is year to year, IE he only gets it if on roster after April 1st.
4) His contract de-escalated (shrinks) by 2 mil in any season that doesn't take 80% of the snaps AND is either All-Pro or in a Super Bowl.
5) He has to buy an insurance plan that gives the 49ers 20 mil if he sustains a career ending injury.
6) Secures him for 7 full years at todays $$$ when the cap is about to rise DRAMATICALLY over the next several years (IE, this will look like chump change in 3 or 4 years).
Any more questions?
Thanks for the reply.
1) First year number allow team to resign other players.
I assume by first year, you mean 2014? I don't think it is that much relevant here because if they didn't sign him until next season or tag him next season, his cap number was 1M.
2) Low Signing bonus means little dead money if he is released.
That part, I understand. But assuming that he does perform.
3) "Guaranteed" money is year to year, IE he only gets it if on roster after April 1st.
Same as 2). Again I am assuming that he is with the team for long term. at least until (2017)
4) His contract de-escalated (shrinks) by 2 mil in any season that doesn't take 80% of the snaps AND is either All-Pro or in a Super Bowl.
I think he only have to do it once and it stops. He doesn't have to do it every season. I believe( well I should say I hope) he will do it either this year or 2015.
5) He has to buy an insurance plan that gives the 49ers 20 mil if he sustains a career ending injury.
I don't think that is relevant from salary cap point of view in any way. May be I am wrong.
6) Secures him for 7 full years at todays $$$ when the cap is about to rise DRAMATICALLY over the next several years (IE, this will look like chump change in 3 or 4 years).
Yes, this is obvious.
My point is assuming that Kap perform reasonable enough for the team not to cut him. He is going to be eating up 17M to 21M every year. I don't know how that is a bargain or allow/help team to resign other players.
Originally posted by thl408:It's this one... I think he can only lose $12M total.
1. Whenever Kap hits the 80% snaps + (1st/2nd all-pro OR SB appearance) milestones. He does not get -$2 de-escalator...for that specific year.
Which one is it?