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Is our Roster better right now than it was a year ago at this time?

Is our Roster better right now than it was a year ago at this time?

  • LVJay
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Originally posted by CWin4949:
the poll should ask "is the play calling better".....

^^THIS^^

Because, ultimately, if Roman/Harbs pull off the same crap... even the London Shaguars would be able to defend us (since we beat the crap out of them last time) and probably hold us to 3 points
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Rogers/Brown vs Brock/Culliver Rogers and Brown were big reason why the 49ers were top 3 to 5 in pass defence since 2011. I see Brock and Culliver giving up a few mid range passing receptions but they will be better as far as getting turnovers.

Bethea is more discipline then Whitner whom had a good year but was over aggressive in the Seattle game and got burned.

ILB Bowman will miss half the season so they may play well with out him but cannot be better than 2013 with a healthy Bowman

Blaine Gabbert may be a better back up then Colt Mccoy
Originally posted by Disp:
How is this even a question? You could argue that every vacant position this offseason was filled with an upgrade, and the team added substantial depth. There's a good chance that we're better at literally every single position group going into this season, with the only real question being center.

You need to check some tape on Marcus Martin, he'll beat Kilgore for the starting role. Then he'll beat up defensive linemen come game time.
Adding in a healthy Crabs too I would say yes. Even with the Bow injury
Originally posted by GORO:
Rogers/Brown vs Brock/Culliver Rogers and Brown were big reason why the 49ers were top 3 to 5 in pass defence since 2011. I see Brock and Culliver giving up a few mid range passing receptions but they will be better as far as getting turnovers.

Bethea is more discipline then Whitner whom had a good year but was over aggressive in the Seattle game and got burned.

ILB Bowman will miss half the season so they may play well with out him but cannot be better than 2013 with a healthy Bowman

Blaine Gabbert may be a better back up then Colt Mccoy


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;players mean s**t if you still try to run against 9 man fronts, line staley up wide right, treat first down like its a piece of trick or treat candy to be thrown out for the hell of it thus putting us in third and predictable, not getting plays in on time burning time outs, giving the d a chance to regroup and killing all of our momentum,, running draw plays on third and long, well you get the idea. if the play calling esp in the red zone remains the same as last year i do not think it matters who the players are in my opinion
Originally posted by Quest4six:
Originally posted by JimHarbaugh:
FA Noteable Additions:
Stevie Johnson WR
Antoine Bethea SS

FA Noteable Subtractions:
Carlos Rogers CB
Tarel Brown CB
Donte Whitner SS
Jonathan Goodwin C

Noteable Draftees:
Jimmie Ward S/CB
Carlos Hyde RB
Chris Borland MLB
Marcus Martin C
Dontae Johnson CB


Bethea is a better safety than Whif-ner was.
Stevie Johnson is a HUGE upgrade, if anything I think our offense is head over heels better than it was last year.
Our defense got some big upgrades as well, Ward will be a upgrade over Rogers, and I think Aaron Lynch is going to surprise a lot of people.

Agree plus Bethea is better than Whitner and I think Johnson will surprise ppl and make some good contributions at CB.
I'd say hell yes. Our Weakest starters last year:

1. Johnathan Goodwin
2. Carlos Rogers
3. Donte Whitner

I've been wanting replacements for these guys since 2011 playoffs. Finally. they're replaced with younger more talented players. Our remaining weakest players are mainly backups such as Adam Snyder and Craig Dahl. They better not make the team
[ Edited by kronik on May 16, 2014 at 7:34 PM ]
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Originally posted by cciowa:
;players mean s**t if you still try to run against 9 man fronts, line staley up wide right, treat first down like its a piece of trick or treat candy to be thrown out for the hell of it thus putting us in third and predictable, not getting plays in on time burning time outs, giving the d a chance to regroup and killing all of our momentum,, running draw plays on third and long, well you get the idea. if the play calling esp in the red zone remains the same as last year i do not think it matters who the players are in my opinion

I'm glad we had real Pro-Style playbook when we won all those SBs... it's quite possible that we'd only have one SB (or none at all) if we did all the above back then...

Harbs / Roman, please change... we beg of you, PLEASE!!!!
I know Tank Carradine is unproven, but I think he will be a nice addition to our D line. The secondary is the only thing that might be weaker. Over all, I think we look a lot better. Also, we should have Bowman back for both Seahawk games.
Originally posted by Young2Rice4TD:
Our offense is much better with Stevie Johnson, Lattimore, and Hyde. All three of those guys can be difference makers. Brandon Lloyd gives us the depth at reciever that we haven't had in a very long time.

Lloyd won't even make the team... Once Harbaugh gets one good look at his alligator arms he'll be gone.
My breakdown is as follows:

QB: Slight upgrade. Last year was a sophomore slump for Kaepernick, in combination with a lack of real targets in the WR corps. I expect big things from Kaepernick this year.

RB: Slight upgrade. I question whether Gore will be as effective, but I have to think that either Lattimore or Hyde will step in as a solid #2 that will have a significant impact in our running attack.

WR: Significant upgrade. Crabtree, Boldin and Johnson are healthy. Last year we were wondering if AJ Jenkins would be starting alongside Boldin. We have a very solid (while not spectacular) top 3 WR's. After seeing what happened last year, I'm ok with that. I do wish we were in the "major upgrade" category by drafting a stud speed WR in the draft, but, I do understand that the price was too high, and it's certainly not the end of the world that we didn't especially considering that any WR drafted would have likely had only a minor impact on game day anyway.

TE: Slight upgrade. Vernon Davis will be the same. Vance McDonald will be in year two. He struggled a little adjusting to the passing game, but I expect him to improve as he gets more comfortable in our system.

Offensive line: Likely slight upgrade. I am very excited with the opportunity to improve our C position. That said, at one time Goodwin was pro-bowl player. Also, he was the captain of our offensive line and was responsible for making the play-calls at the line. I am a little concerned with the prospect of a rookie center being in charge of our o-line at CLink, although in the big scheme of things this is really a very minor concern. That said, Goodwin was clearly declining, and I think we can upgrade him. Also, we have added some significant depth this year. Snyder is all but gone, and the prospect of a short-term injury or two is hardly terrifying considering our depth.

Defensive line: Same. Justin Smith is the heart and soul of our offensive line. While he is not the same player he was in 2012, he is still pretty damn good. Still, you have to expect a little more decline from the Cowboy. We will likely more than make up for that with the addition of Carradine, the return of Williams, and a healthy Ray McDonald. Possible improvements, but possibly the same.

Linebacker: Slight downgrade. Even the prospect of losing Aldon and Bow for some time does not cause me great concern. Our lineman are so strong that it frees up our linebackers to make plays, and we still have playmakers on our linebacker squad. We still have Willis and Brooks. Lemonier has flashed at times, and Borland may be a great addition. Even if Lemonier and Borland don't produce, Wilhoite and Skuta have both shown that they are more than able to "hold down the fort" until the stars return. It is undisputed that Aldon and Bow are two of the top 10 linebackers in the game, so, of course anybody else would be a downgrade.

Defensive backfield: Same. I am excited about Ward. However, we did lose Brown and Rogers, who were very solid players. I do take comfort in the fact that our front 7 takes a lot of pressure off the secondary. We have the potential to improve here, but it's way too early to tell.

Special teams: Same. Great kicker and punter. Coverage units are unknown as it's way too early in the season to know for sure (although, I think that after 2012 it will remain a focus). We have the possibility of an improvement in the KR/PR game, but there is nobody yet proven.

Depth: Significant improvement. We have never had a deeper team in the Harbaugh era. I expect many of the players we release will end up on other rosters.
[ Edited by Wisconsin49erfan on May 16, 2014 at 9:40 PM ]
Originally posted by cciowa:
;players mean s**t if you still try to run against 9 man fronts, line staley up wide right, treat first down like its a piece of trick or treat candy to be thrown out for the hell of it thus putting us in third and predictable, not getting plays in on time burning time outs, giving the d a chance to regroup and killing all of our momentum,, running draw plays on third and long, well you get the idea. if the play calling esp in the red zone remains the same as last year i do not think it matters who the players are in my opinion

This BIG TIME!

A lot of "IF'S"

On the surface it looks like a definite Yes.

The biggest "If" iS If JH/Roman will use the WR and upgrade the passing offense. IF they do, it will automatically open up the run game.

The next "IF" is if our WR will beat press coverage. We need that 3rd WR like Ellington to prove his worth.

Another "If" is the Center position. Nobody in the Zone has seen Kilgore take snaps at center yet they are already treating the guy like he's crap as if he's already failed.

Like I said, a lot of "IF'Ss
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
QB - Same
RB - Stronger
OL - Same
WR - Much Stronger
DL - Same
LB - Weaker to begin with until Aldon and Bowman return
DB - Weaker to begin with until the new blood is integrated. Should finish stronger.

I tend to agree with this breakdown. My hopes are though with another year under his belt QB will be stronger and with the infusion of a more athletic C the OL will play at a higher level.
i am a little at odds with bullet point 6 and our linebackers,,,, now please do not misunderstand me because you just do not replace a pro bowler like bowman(and aldon to depending on what happens) but i really really think we will be ok with our depth there. i really think michael w/dan skuta can start for most teams in the nfl and i really think that the linebacking by committee will help bridge that gap till bowman returns,, and we still got brooks and willis which is not bad!! same thing for the lemon man with aldon. whatever we get from the rookies is just gravy.. now maybe that is unreal optimism but thats how i see the backer thing

I have faith that whoever steps up and takes control of the temporary slots will hold down the fort just fine, but we won't be our All-World selves for a while at LB.
Championship!