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Pre-Camp 53 Roster Prediction
Jul 14, 2014 at 1:06 PM
- NCommand
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^^^ agreed. We have no idea if Okoye makes a huge jump this off season with some real opportunites to boot. That said, we shouldn't dismiss him either (experience or not).
Jul 14, 2014 at 2:54 PM
- pasodoc9er
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NC you have Josh as the #2, yet others think Blaine is a lock...which I don't see this yr. Yes it would be hard to cut him with his $2mil contract...which at best I thot was for trade bait only. Nope, looks like Coach is going to try and remake his career. Thing is I don't see that being done THIS yr. And as you noted, Josh is a lot closer to playing Colin type football. The pick...still makes me wonder. OTOH, a pair of #2s for blaine if he finds his career again? Not bad. And we are thru getting players for Alex, so maybe that is what this was about? Getting another pair of #2 picks? Maybe that is cynical, but it was at the very least, a large surprise trade.
Jul 14, 2014 at 3:04 PM
- NinerBuff
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
NC you have Josh as the #2, yet others think Blaine is a lock...which I don't see this yr. Yes it would be hard to cut him with his $2mil contract...which at best I thot was for trade bait only. Nope, looks like Coach is going to try and remake his career. Thing is I don't see that being done THIS yr. And as you noted, Josh is a lot closer to playing Colin type football. The pick...still makes me wonder. OTOH, a pair of #2s for blaine if he finds his career again? Not bad. And we are thru getting players for Alex, so maybe that is what this was about? Getting another pair of #2 picks? Maybe that is cynical, but it was at the very least, a large surprise trade.
Each year we talk about Josh Johnson and each year he's a camp star and doesn't make the team. This isn't a coincidence. It means Josh can emulate Kaep to help camp along, but as a backup QB, he doesn't seem to cut it. If Colt McCoy can beat him out, what makes you think Blaine Gabbert with a bigger price tag wont? After all, Gabbert has more natural ability than Colt, so it would be follow that Gabbert will beat out Johnson too.
Jul 14, 2014 at 3:28 PM
- DeUh
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Thanks NCommand and dtg_9er. I appreciate it !
O-Line versatility
Ryan Seymour
Played Center Guard and Tackle in College. With his versatility can he make a push for Looneys spot through TC ?
Or another scenario. Can either Martin or Kilgore ( whoever loses the battle for the Center position ) make a push for Looneys spot as a backup Guard this season and therefore open a spot for Seymour ?
Dillon Farrell
What will he bring to the table ? He played Center in College but was working primarily as a Right Tackle this off season.
Moody or Costanzo.
Moody played very well on ST in College and has the higher upside to me. My take is take we signed Costanzo as a insurance should one of our ST aces go down with an injury and to push Moody.. Then there is also Shayne Skov.
Defensive Backs
Chris Cook
Like expected his tape is pretty bad. But you can definitely see why Baalke took a chance on him. He does not look too comfortable in different zone coverages and gets beat A LOT while in off man coverage. Though in press coverage the tape gets better and with better ball skills he could succeed there. What I did not like when he was playing press was that a lot of times he holds and grabs for dear life. He is also a pretty good and willing tackler.
Will Donatell be able to get the best out of him ?
Perrish Cox
He played very solid for us through the playoffs though the All22 exposed him a little. There were a few times he got beat and was lucky that the QB either threw the ball too late or was sacked before the throw.
He got work on the outside and in the slot this off seaon. Will he look even better on the outside in a more press heavy scheme ? Reading thorugh his scouting reports you could think so.
Will he secure the spot as our our primary punt returner ?
Kenneth Acker
What will he bring to the table? He is very versatile. Can play outside, inside and has return ability.
Craig Dahl vs. DJ Campbell
From the tapes I saw I would not be too comfortable with either one of them as a single high safety though I would give the nod to Campbell. He is also the better tackler IMO and plays with more intensity.
LJ McCray
A real dark horse to me as well. ST Ace and future back up safety for us ?
Wildcards
Chris Culliver
Is he back to 100 percent ?
Ian Williams
Will he end up on the PUP list ?
So many more stories to watch through TC ( Dial / Jerod-Eddie, James, Lloyd etc. ) I cannot wait !
O-Line versatility
Ryan Seymour
Played Center Guard and Tackle in College. With his versatility can he make a push for Looneys spot through TC ?
Or another scenario. Can either Martin or Kilgore ( whoever loses the battle for the Center position ) make a push for Looneys spot as a backup Guard this season and therefore open a spot for Seymour ?
Dillon Farrell
What will he bring to the table ? He played Center in College but was working primarily as a Right Tackle this off season.
Moody or Costanzo.
Moody played very well on ST in College and has the higher upside to me. My take is take we signed Costanzo as a insurance should one of our ST aces go down with an injury and to push Moody.. Then there is also Shayne Skov.
Defensive Backs
Chris Cook
Like expected his tape is pretty bad. But you can definitely see why Baalke took a chance on him. He does not look too comfortable in different zone coverages and gets beat A LOT while in off man coverage. Though in press coverage the tape gets better and with better ball skills he could succeed there. What I did not like when he was playing press was that a lot of times he holds and grabs for dear life. He is also a pretty good and willing tackler.
Will Donatell be able to get the best out of him ?
Perrish Cox
He played very solid for us through the playoffs though the All22 exposed him a little. There were a few times he got beat and was lucky that the QB either threw the ball too late or was sacked before the throw.
He got work on the outside and in the slot this off seaon. Will he look even better on the outside in a more press heavy scheme ? Reading thorugh his scouting reports you could think so.
Will he secure the spot as our our primary punt returner ?
Kenneth Acker
What will he bring to the table? He is very versatile. Can play outside, inside and has return ability.
Craig Dahl vs. DJ Campbell
From the tapes I saw I would not be too comfortable with either one of them as a single high safety though I would give the nod to Campbell. He is also the better tackler IMO and plays with more intensity.
LJ McCray
A real dark horse to me as well. ST Ace and future back up safety for us ?
Wildcards
Chris Culliver
Is he back to 100 percent ?
Ian Williams
Will he end up on the PUP list ?
So many more stories to watch through TC ( Dial / Jerod-Eddie, James, Lloyd etc. ) I cannot wait !
[ Edited by DeUh on Jul 15, 2014 at 2:53 AM ]
Jul 15, 2014 at 6:49 AM
- 9ersLiferInChicago
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Originally posted by NCommand:I can envision NO scenario in which J. Johnson makes it over B. Gabbert.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Here ya go. Starters (bolded) may change after pre season. I expect a few surprises for sure and will do my best to edit as we go.
QB (2)
Colin Kaepernick
Josh Johnson
Rationale: Tough call on Blaine Gabbert as he is getting lots of praise right now. Could we keep 3? Cut Josh? In the end, I'm sticking with my gut in saying Blaine gets the ax as we only keep two QB's active on game days so QB Kory Faulkner goes to the PS. Harbaugh is close to Johnson and he could be a backup for years without any real threat to CK (perfect) plus his style of QBing is much closer to CK's.
RB (4)
Frank Gore
Kendall Hunter
Marcus Lattimore
Carlos Hyde
Rationale: Good-bye LaMichael James. This is a 4-headed monster now. Lattimore, Hyde and Ellington (PK) push James right off the team.
FB (1)
Bruce Miller
Rationale: Derek Carrier is the new H-back and can double as a FB should Miller go down.
TE (3)
Vernon Davis
Vance McDonald
Derek Carrier (H-Back)
Rationale: Derek Carrier hits his stride and makes the team in the old Delanie Walker, H-back role. We don't need Celek anymore as an OT can be that extra OL as needed like Kilgore last year.
WR (6)
Michael Crabtree (X)
Anquan Boldin (Z)
Stevie Johnson (Y)
Quinton Patton (X,Y,Z)
Kassim Osgood (X)
Bruce Ellington (Y & P/KR)
Rationale: Kassim is still our second best gunner on ST and a good, tall, reliable veteran should we have a rash of injuries again. Ellington becomes the K/PR specialist as well and knocks James off the team. CK loves veteran WR's and he's in love with Lloyd. As much as I'd like to add him, he's only good for one year and this team will learn a lot from him throughout pre season. But this coaching staff HAS to develop WR's and those two are Patton and Ellington and this is a number's game, sadly. But Lloyd, we'll keep you on speed dial, no doubt...something we've done in the past.
OT (3)
Joe Staley
Anthony Davis
Jonathan Martin (OT & G)
Rationale: Originally, I had OT Luke Marquardt making the team but he was put on I.R. again, we cut ties with Al Netter and then brought him back prior to TC and Carter Bykowski was horrendous last pre season (but we'll have to see how far he's developed though). Staley/Davis seem to battle injuries every year so Martin (NFL experience and versatility) better be ready! We don't have any other options other than Boone at RG (again) right now who is holding out.
OG (3)
Mike Iupati
Alex Boone (G & OT)
Joe Looney
Rationale: No surprises here but hopefully, Boone will never have to move to OT d/t injury again (assuming he's signed to an extended contract).
C (2)
Daniel Kilgore
Marcus Martin (C & OG)
Rationale: Would anyone be surprised if Martin wins the starting C position? Either way, he can play G too. Versatility remains the theme for the OL.
DE (4)
Justin Smith
Ray McDonald
Tank Carradine
Quinton Dial (DE & NT)
Rationale: TJE/Dobbs played very well last year but Dial steps up his game and he has the size and versatility to play both DE and NT should either Dorsey or Williams go down.
NT (2)
Glenn Dorsey
Ian Williams
Rationale: Welcome back Williams. He's our slasher NT but it sounds like he's still recovering and being cautiously brought along slowly. Could he be put on the PUP list to add more depth?
OLB (5)
Ahmad Brooks
Aldon Smith
Dan Skuta
Corey Lemonier
Aaron Lynch
Rationale: With Carradine and Williams back, Lynch is going to add another dimension of pass rush ability and depth on a rotating front 7. Like Aldon and Lemonier before him, he'll only be worked in on some pass rush downs giving Aldon/Brooks a break and esp. if Aldon gets suspended for X-number of games. He'll also be on ST.
ILB (3)
Patrick Willis
Michael Wilhoite
Blake Costanzo
Chris Borland
Rationale: When Bowman makes it back to full strength, there is going to be a tough cut somewhere. Blake adds a special element to the ST coverage units but no real surprises here. Moody could fit in here and play a key hybrid S/LB role on passing downs should the team go down that road. Skov should head to the PS and Borland has shined thus far and will challene Wilhoite to the end.
CB (7)
Tramaine Brock (#1)
Chris Culliver (#2)
Jimmie Ward (#3 Nickle/Dime/Slot/FS)
Perrish Cox (#4 Nickle/Dime)(Backs up Brock)
Chris Cook (#5 Nickle/Dime)(Backs up Culliver)
Darryl Morris (#1 Slot & KR)
Dontae Johnson (Backs up both Brock/Culliver)
Rationale: Eric Wright retiring hurts the depth/experience here but he was barely being mentioned anyhow. The good news is we're getting younger, faster, taller, more athletic and certainly more aggressive/physical. We carried 10 DB's in the NFCCG. Here, we carry 11 total d/t the growth of Johnson and Baalke learning from letting Cooper go last year to the Chiefs. Baalke/Donatell/Fangio appear to want to play much more press with a single-high safety (Reid) and keep Bethea in and around the box in run support. We can expect both press and off-coverage with Brock and Culliver while being backed up by Cook and Johnson. Morris pushes Ward hard for the slot-role but also takes on kick-off returns next to Ellington and/or he remains one of our best gunners on the ST coverage units.
S (4)
Eric Reid
Antoine Bethea
CJ Spillman
Raymond Ventrone
Rationale: No surprises here. The outside shot here is L.J. McCray d/t his P/KR abilities. He can also play the nickle ala Ward. He has the license to beat out either Spillman or Ventrone who are top-notch ST (only) players. Dahl should be cut as he's a solid ST player and below-average backup S and counts $1,283,333 against the cap.
ST (3)
Phil Dawson
Andy Lee
Kevin McDermott
Sticking with this one while expecting quite a few edits during TC!
Jul 15, 2014 at 7:00 AM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by thl408:Originally posted by Giedi:Originally posted by dtg_9er:Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by dtg_9er:Thanks to both of you for your lists! I only question going skinny at DL as there were so many injuries last year and you have Carradine coming off major injury...and you have J Smith (34) and McDonald (29) getting older.
I have questions about keeping Moody or Costanzo as well. Injuries usually help answer some of these questions, unfortunately.
Also, am a bit disappointed with the line as there is less flexibility than I had hoped they would build. Boone is the only guy I'm comfortable with playing both G & T in a pinch. Not that I want Snyder back, LOL!
For sure. I wouldn't even be surprised if we saw a dark horse there as well (cough, Okoye, cough). I believe I picked 6 DL b/c we only had 4 or 5 active on game day during the NFCCG? Can't remember...
Another Okoye fan? He has to prove himself to me but he is a monster physically...just hard to make the transition from another sport. You are probably correct in your numbers. They have to take a chance somewhere and no one knows where the injuries will happen!
I think Okoye can make the 53 if Williams is put on the PUP. And yes I'm pulling for Okoye to make the team. He is as raw as Colin was and with the same tremendous upside. At full realized potential I can see him being at Wilfork's level of play.
As much as I'd like Okoye to pan out, the guy is as raw as it gets being that he never took a football snap till a preseason game last year. That's way more raw than Kap. Tomsula had Okoye pratice ramming his face into the blocking sled while keeping his eyes open because his instinct was to close his eyes upon impact with another player. That shows me he has a loooong way to go. I think Okoye is being groomed as a DE, not NT. He is way too tall to be a NT.
No, I agree he's being groomed for DE not NT. But I've seen justin play occasionally at NT. And the point was if Williams isn't 100% and paced on injured reserve/PUP, and I think Okoye has enough raw talent to make it past the other more experienced young players. The question is do you go with a player with a higher floor or a player with a tremendous ceiling? That is the unknown that has to be resolved at TC.
Jul 15, 2014 at 7:06 AM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
I can envision NO scenario in which J. Johnson makes it over B. Gabbert.
Most likely this is the case. I'm keeping my original pick there until I see more from TC but in the end, I will also most likely edit Blaine in/Johnson out.
Jul 15, 2014 at 7:11 AM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:Originally posted by pasodoc9er:NC you have Josh as the #2, yet others think Blaine is a lock...which I don't see this yr. Yes it would be hard to cut him with his $2mil contract...which at best I thot was for trade bait only. Nope, looks like Coach is going to try and remake his career. Thing is I don't see that being done THIS yr. And as you noted, Josh is a lot closer to playing Colin type football. The pick...still makes me wonder. OTOH, a pair of #2s for blaine if he finds his career again? Not bad. And we are thru getting players for Alex, so maybe that is what this was about? Getting another pair of #2 picks? Maybe that is cynical, but it was at the very least, a large surprise trade.
Each year we talk about Josh Johnson and each year he's a camp star and doesn't make the team. This isn't a coincidence. It means Josh can emulate Kaep to help camp along, but as a backup QB, he doesn't seem to cut it. If Colt McCoy can beat him out, what makes you think Blaine Gabbert with a bigger price tag wont? After all, Gabbert has more natural ability than Colt, so it would be follow that Gabbert will beat out Johnson too.
What i get from all the articles I've read is that Blaine is ahead of Josh right now. But Josh is not that far behind. If Josh really does well in pre-season and Blaine doesn't move the offense very well, I can see Josh making the team and beating out Blaine.
How I think the Josh acquisition happened is that the 49ers were looking for another backup QB candidate to give McBLT some competition and they got Blaine for a very reasonable price. Josh was not available at the time. Then a few weeks later Josh was released and the 49ers picked him up too. Now if it was the reverse- that they got Josh on the squad *before* Blaine then they may not have gone after Blaine at all - in my opinion. Because Josh nearly made the team the last time as a backup QB.
Jul 15, 2014 at 7:11 AM
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Originally posted by DeUh:
Thanks NCommand and dtg_9er. I appreciate it !
O-Line versatility
Ryan Seymour
Played Center Guard and Tackle in College. With his versatility can he make a push for Looneys spot through TC ?
Or another scenario. Can either Martin or Kilgore ( whoever loses the battle for the Center position ) make a push for Looneys spot as a backup Guard this season and therefore open a spot for Seymour ?
Dillon Farrell
What will he bring to the table ? He played Center in College but was working primarily as a Right Tackle this off season.
Moody or Costanzo.
Moody played very well on ST in College and has the higher upside to me. My take is take we signed Costanzo as a insurance should one of our ST aces go down with an injury and to push Moody.. Then there is also Shayne Skov.
Defensive Backs
Chris Cook
Like expected his tape is pretty bad. But you can definitely see why Baalke took a chance on him. He does not look too comfortable in different zone coverages and gets beat A LOT while in off man coverage. Though in press coverage the tape gets better and with better ball skills he could succeed there. What I did not like when he was playing press was that a lot of times he holds and grabs for dear life. He is also a pretty good and willing tackler.
Will Donatell be able to get the best out of him ?
Perrish Cox
He played very solid for us through the playoffs though the All22 exposed him a little. There were a few times he got beat and was lucky that the QB either threw the ball too late or was sacked before the throw.
He got work on the outside and in the slot this off seaon. Will he look even better on the outside in a more press heavy scheme ? Reading thorugh his scouting reports you could think so.
Will he secure the spot as our our primary punt returner ?
Kenneth Acker
What will he bring to the table? He is very versatile. Can play outside, inside and has return ability.
Craig Dahl vs. DJ Campbell
From the tapes I saw I would not be too comfortable with either one of them as a single high safety though I would give the nod to Campbell. He is also the better tackler IMO and plays with more intensity.
LJ McCray
A real dark horse to me as well. ST Ace and future back up safety for us ?
Wildcards
Chris Culliver
Is he back to 100 percent ?
Ian Williams
Will he end up on the PUP list ?
So many more stories to watch through TC ( Dial / Jerod-Eddie, James, Lloyd etc. ) I cannot wait !
We've got to revisit these questions through TC. I can't wait either! Well done...
Jul 15, 2014 at 7:14 AM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
NC you have Josh as the #2, yet others think Blaine is a lock...which I don't see this yr. Yes it would be hard to cut him with his $2mil contract...which at best I thot was for trade bait only. Nope, looks like Coach is going to try and remake his career. Thing is I don't see that being done THIS yr. And as you noted, Josh is a lot closer to playing Colin type football. The pick...still makes me wonder. OTOH, a pair of #2s for blaine if he finds his career again? Not bad. And we are thru getting players for Alex, so maybe that is what this was about? Getting another pair of #2 picks? Maybe that is cynical, but it was at the very least, a large surprise trade.
Each year we talk about Josh Johnson and each year he's a camp star and doesn't make the team. This isn't a coincidence. It means Josh can emulate Kaep to help camp along, but as a backup QB, he doesn't seem to cut it. If Colt McCoy can beat him out, what makes you think Blaine Gabbert with a bigger price tag wont? After all, Gabbert has more natural ability than Colt, so it would be follow that Gabbert will beat out Johnson too.
What i get from all the articles I've read is that Blaine is ahead of Josh right now. But Josh is not that far behind. If Josh really does well in pre-season and Blaine doesn't move the offense very well, I can see Josh making the team and beating out Blaine.
How I think the Josh acquisition happened is that the 49ers were looking for another backup QB candidate to give McBLT some competition and they got Blaine for a very reasonable price. Josh was not available at the time. Then a few weeks later Josh was released and the 49ers picked him up too. Now if it was the reverse- that they got Josh on the squad *before* Blaine then they may not have gone after Blaine at all - in my opinion. Because Josh nearly made the team the last time as a backup QB.
This is basically how I saw it as well. I do understand the guaranteed contract-point though as well and that should certainly factor in. Now the question is, will we keep 3 QB's if both play well? I just can't imagine CK going down and Blaine coming in and us not having to completely change the offensive approach.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jul 17, 2014 at 9:26 AM ]
Jul 15, 2014 at 7:14 AM
- Giedi
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Originally posted by Scoots:I too want Okoye to take a roster spot from someone else, but it's WAY WAY WAY too early to project him to being like any other NFL player let alone a great possible hall of fame player in Wilfork.
I'm comparing him more to pierce holt than Wilfork at this point.
Jul 15, 2014 at 7:17 AM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ersLiferInChicago:
I can envision NO scenario in which J. Johnson makes it over B. Gabbert.
Most likely this is the case. I'm keeping my original pick there until I see more from TC but in the end, I will also most likely edit Blaine in/Johnson out.
If Johnson outplays Gabbert then the coaches will keep the best player. Guaranteed contracts do not mean automatic roster spots. Johnson will be much less expensive in the long run and may be suited for Harbaugh's offense...though I'm reading Roman as saying there will be more passing...which may give Gabbert an edge. At this point of the pre-pre-season it's all up in the air.
Jul 15, 2014 at 7:25 AM
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Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by Giedi:Originally posted by NinerBuff:Originally posted by pasodoc9er:NC you have Josh as the #2, yet others think Blaine is a lock...which I don't see this yr. Yes it would be hard to cut him with his $2mil contract...which at best I thot was for trade bait only. Nope, looks like Coach is going to try and remake his career. Thing is I don't see that being done THIS yr. And as you noted, Josh is a lot closer to playing Colin type football. The pick...still makes me wonder. OTOH, a pair of #2s for blaine if he finds his career again? Not bad. And we are thru getting players for Alex, so maybe that is what this was about? Getting another pair of #2 picks? Maybe that is cynical, but it was at the very least, a large surprise trade.
Each year we talk about Josh Johnson and each year he's a camp star and doesn't make the team. This isn't a coincidence. It means Josh can emulate Kaep to help camp along, but as a backup QB, he doesn't seem to cut it. If Colt McCoy can beat him out, what makes you think Blaine Gabbert with a bigger price tag wont? After all, Gabbert has more natural ability than Colt, so it would be follow that Gabbert will beat out Johnson too.
What i get from all the articles I've read is that Blaine is ahead of Josh right now. But Josh is not that far behind. If Josh really does well in pre-season and Blaine doesn't move the offense very well, I can see Josh making the team and beating out Blaine.
How I think the Josh acquisition happened is that the 49ers were looking for another backup QB candidate to give McBLT some competition and they got Blaine for a very reasonable price. Josh was not available at the time. Then a few weeks later Josh was released and the 49ers picked him up too. Now if it was the reverse- that they got Josh on the squad *before* Blaine then they may not have gone after Blaine at all - in my opinion. Because Josh nearly made the team the last time as a backup QB.
This is basically how I saw it as well. I don understand the guaranteed contract-point though as well and that should certainly factor in. Now the question is, will we keep 3 QB's if both play well? I just can't imagine CK going down and Blaine coming in and us not having to completely change the offensive approach.
Regarding Blaine ' s contract. The argument is that he will make the team *because* of his salary and not his football talent. Personally, in my opinion that argument doesn't make sense. Football players are paid according to how well they play football, not the other way around - that they pay you well and then you become a good football player. It just doesn't work that way. You see long time NFL stars being cut every year because their football skills don't match their salary. The same with Blaine, if Josh is better than Blaine(right now he's not) - talentwise - I think Josh makes the team and the 49ers will be very willing to eat Blaine's contract.
Jul 16, 2014 at 2:19 PM
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My concern thru all this trading, drafting season has been that we virtually have capable almost equally competent backups all across the board...EXCEPT at QB...which was puzzling. Then Blaine gets picked up for $2mil and I felt the same way...not a competent backup, and at the QB position. Then Josh gets signed. Yes it is true he wasn't available and it was late late into wheeling and dealing and no competent QB backup. So they pick up Josh and finally I felt we had a guy who could get us wins against non elite teams. OOps, what to do with blaine? So at that point I wondered if just maybe Coach was going to try an alex remake on him and get us a couple #2s next yr. The $2mil guaranteed I thot was due to the fact that Trent had doubles of everything everywhere, except at the most important position on the team...and suddenly realized, "hey we have to have somebody". As Giedi noted, contract or not, the best guy gets the job, #2. However, we all know of situations and teams, where the #1 guy got the contract, but the #2 guy was better...#1 started anyway. Raiders: Jamarcus . So not everybody makes a fool of themselves as the Raids once did, but it has happened before. I can't conceive of that happening if kap had an injury. The best guy would start.
Jul 16, 2014 at 8:36 PM
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Originally posted by NCommand:Four surgeries for Ian Williams! I hadn't heard that. Wow, that must have been a bad break....and on a very dirty play. Man, that is infuriating. The NFL needs to do something about crap like that. To have a marginal player (JR Sweezy...or should I say "Sleazy") put out an opposing team's starting player for the entire season on a dirty play, that is just not right. In fact, it is pure B.S.
Excellent. Fun to compare and contrast and discuss. Well done!
NT (2)
Glenn Dorsey
Ian Williams - same here but let's hope Ian is finally getting healthy. It's been almost a full year plus 4 surgeries. Yikes. Perhaps this is why Baalke was looking at that 362 pound NT in the supplemental draft.
IMHO, the team that commits a dirty foul like that should also lose a starting player for the entire year...and the player who commits the dirty foul should be suspended for the length of time it takes for the opposing player to heal plus pay a healthy fine. If the said player commits another dirty foul again, he is out of the league.