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Aaron Lynch Thread
Jun 27, 2017 at 2:02 PM
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Only 20% of the time but the Sam does cover and that's why it's typically played by the smaller more athletic hybrid end/ lb. Lynch lost that ability 500 burgers ago. I think he's best as a hands in the dirt player like Saleh has said and that can be on either side. He's going to have a big role for us but it might be more like a Frank Clark.
Jun 27, 2017 at 2:04 PM
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We all are going to see all these guys at all the slots , everyone tried out at such and such a slot, unitl they come up with the one best guy for the slot, varying from base to passing downs. So everyone gets a chance, everywhere, and in the end , he who fits best where ...wins that position. More than likely some slots will have several guys of equal talent. That is just to our advantage. So far i haven't seen Saleh nor John Lynch allocate a player to solely one slot. Assuming the 5 play rotation is going to happen, there will be plenty of chance for everyone to get his shot. I much prefer that than so and so is a 3 tech, and someone else is just a 5 tech. We already know buck can play several slots. Same for solomon, and probably Arik. So let's wait out the TC and PS and see what different guys bring to the individual slots. I'm content to wait.
Jun 27, 2017 at 2:11 PM
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Originally posted by tjd808185:Only 20% of the time but the Sam does cover and that's why it's typically played by the smaller more athletic hybrid end/ lb. Lynch lost that ability 500 burgers ago. I think he's best at a hands in the dirt player like Saleh has said and that's on either side.
Saleh said hands are in the dirt 70 percent of the time for Sam. It's not your typical Sam. And that explains Vic's 15.5 sacks
Jun 27, 2017 at 2:55 PM
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Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:Originally posted by tjd808185:Only 20% of the time but the Sam does cover and that's why it's typically played by the smaller more athletic hybrid end/ lb. Lynch lost that ability 500 burgers ago. I think he's best at a hands in the dirt player like Saleh has said and that's on either side.
Saleh said hands are in the dirt 70 percent of the time for Sam. It's not your typical Sam. And that explains Vic's 15.5 sacks
Jun 27, 2017 at 4:37 PM
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No thanks. Lining Lynch up at SAM is telegraphing the coverage.
Jun 27, 2017 at 4:46 PM
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Originally posted by post_primitive:No thanks. Lining Lynch up at SAM is telegraphing the coverage.
So would Elvis at LEO. It's no secret. When those two are in, they are rushing the passer.
Jun 27, 2017 at 4:50 PM
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There's nothing dubious about the coverages they're going to play. It's going to be cover 3 99% of the time. They're still going to drop to the same landmarks regardless of who is dropping to them.
Jun 27, 2017 at 4:57 PM
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Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by post_primitive:No thanks. Lining Lynch up at SAM is telegraphing the coverage.
So would Elvis at LEO. It's no secret. When those two are in, they are rushing the passer.
That's a poor comparison. LEOs aren't asked to cover.
You want someone at SAM who can cover; otherwise, everyone in the stadium knows you're blitzing. A good QB will exploit that all day.
Jun 27, 2017 at 5:01 PM
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If it's 3rd-and-18 and you don't mind telegraphing the blitz, cool. Otherwise, don't put a 280lb DE at SAM.
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Jun 27, 2017 at 5:08 PM
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Originally posted by post_primitive:Originally posted by NCommand:Originally posted by post_primitive:No thanks. Lining Lynch up at SAM is telegraphing the coverage.
So would Elvis at LEO. It's no secret. When those two are in, they are rushing the passer.
That's a poor comparison. LEOs aren't asked to cover.
You want someone at SAM who can cover; otherwise, everyone in the stadium knows you're blitzing. A good QB will exploit that all day.
The SAM in this defense rushes up to 70% of the time. But I get what you're saying.
Jun 27, 2017 at 5:51 PM
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Originally posted by post_primitive:That's a poor comparison. LEOs aren't asked to cover.
You want someone at SAM who can cover; otherwise, everyone in the stadium knows you're blitzing. A good QB will exploit that all day.
Good point. Saleh said it though, I was wondering how they'd pull it off
Jun 27, 2017 at 7:30 PM
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Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
Saleh said hands are in the dirt 70 percent of the time for Sam. It's not your typical Sam. And that explains Vic's 15.5 sacks
He's still going to be in coverage the rest of the time if he's sam. Vic Beasley is 6'3 246 and runs a 4.53 forty. He can do it all. Lynch just isn't in his league to think he could bring the pass rush but still cover when required. He's a fine leo, fine pass rusher but you can't just dismiss that 20% coverage responsibilities. So if you're saying you use him as the extra nickel rusher or limited Sam blitzing duty on the strong side that's fine but as far as being a full time Beasley goes Lynch is about 500 cheeseburgers too many.
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Jun 27, 2017 at 7:42 PM
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Originally posted by tjd808185:Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:Saleh said hands are in the dirt 70 percent of the time for Sam. It's not your typical Sam. And that explains Vic's 15.5 sacks
He's still going to be in coverage the rest of the time if he's sam. Vic Beasley is 6'3 246 and runs a 4.53 forty. Lynch just isn't in his league to think he could bring the pass rush but still cover when required. He's a fine leo, fine pass rusher but you can't just dismiss that 20% coverage responsibilities. So if you're saying you use him as the extra nickel rusher like Atl does with Vic that's fine but as far as being a base Sam goes Lynch is about 1,000 cheeseburgers too many.
We were talking about a rotation . Nobody would have him as base Sam
Jun 27, 2017 at 7:46 PM
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Originally posted by GhostOfBaalke:
We were talking about a rotation . Nobody would have him as base Sam
You talked about using him like Beasley and I just wanted to show you that doesn't quite work because he can't cover like Vic. He's much closer to Brooks Reed in this defense. It's a little confusing because we'll be in nickel 60% of the time anyways. I do see Elvis and Lynch as the primary ends there. It's just when we are in base I think Lynch is more of a fit at Leo than Sam. Not to say you can't use him some there but Brooks, Pita, Harold are better fits.
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Jun 27, 2017 at 8:08 PM
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Good discussion fellas!