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Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Ok no problem, here was my 2nd mock from 2014 draft, now obviously Kyle Fuller was LONG GONE by 30.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/

#30 CB Kyle Fuller- Va Tech#56 WR Donte Moncrief- Ole Miss#61 OLB Jeremiah Attaochu- GA Tech#77 OG Gabe Jackson-Miss St#94 CB Pierre Desir-Lindenwood#100 DT Caraun Reid- Princeton#129 QB AJ McCarron - Alabama#170 ILB Max Bullough- Michigan St7th RB Andre Williams- Boston College7th CB Nevin Lawson- Utah ST7th WR Jeff Janis- Saginaw ValleyRead more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/#mgcsaFCKZtmzgLyU.99

Great, I had Fuller too as an option. Clearly, we wanted a CB for a reason back then. This was your final mock? It would be fun to compare your picks now to Baalke's now and see how the roster would look. If it looks significantly better, we can start adding a 'GM' to your title.

Well after careful analysis of this data it seems ElephantHaley has one upped you and the great baalke in his evaluation of collegiate football student athletes. Great job ElephantHaley.

That made me spit my water out!

Man, I didn't even post my mock from last year.

But yes, please lay the careful analysis out for us...keep in mind the context of the time...little details like...Kyle Fuller going #14 overall. You see, if EH had placed better "value" on Fuller, he would have known he would have been long gone by the time we picked and had chosen someone else in his mock. Value.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Ok no problem, here was my 2nd mock from 2014 draft, now obviously Kyle Fuller was LONG GONE by 30.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/

#30 CB Kyle Fuller- Va Tech#56 WR Donte Moncrief- Ole Miss#61 OLB Jeremiah Attaochu- GA Tech#77 OG Gabe Jackson-Miss St#94 CB Pierre Desir-Lindenwood#100 DT Caraun Reid- Princeton#129 QB AJ McCarron - Alabama#170 ILB Max Bullough- Michigan St7th RB Andre Williams- Boston College7th CB Nevin Lawson- Utah ST7th WR Jeff Janis- Saginaw ValleyRead more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/#mgcsaFCKZtmzgLyU.99

Great, I had Fuller too as an option. Clearly, we wanted a CB for a reason back then. This was your final mock? It would be fun to compare your picks now to Baalke's now and see how the roster would look. If it looks significantly better, we can start adding a 'GM' to your title.

Well after careful analysis of this data it seems ElephantHaley has one upped you and the great baalke in his evaluation of collegiate football student athletes. Great job ElephantHaley.

That made me spit my water out!

Man, I didn't even post my mock from last year.

But yes, please lay the careful analysis for us...keep in mind the context of the time...little details like...Kyle Fuller going #14 overall.

My careful analysis uncovered that EH proposed trading 30+56+94 to move up to 11 in the 2014 draft for either Gilbert or Dennard.

Originally posted by KRS-1:
My careful analysis uncovered that EH proposed trading 30+56+94 to move up to 11 in the 2014 draft for either Gilbert or Dennard.

Another "ouch." I guess being a perfect GM isn't all that easy after all. Odd.

Originally posted by KRS-1:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Ok no problem, here was my 2nd mock from 2014 draft, now obviously Kyle Fuller was LONG GONE by 30.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/

#30 CB Kyle Fuller- Va Tech#56 WR Donte Moncrief- Ole Miss#61 OLB Jeremiah Attaochu- GA Tech#77 OG Gabe Jackson-Miss St#94 CB Pierre Desir-Lindenwood#100 DT Caraun Reid- Princeton#129 QB AJ McCarron - Alabama#170 ILB Max Bullough- Michigan St7th RB Andre Williams- Boston College7th CB Nevin Lawson- Utah ST7th WR Jeff Janis- Saginaw ValleyRead more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/#mgcsaFCKZtmzgLyU.99

Great, I had Fuller too as an option. Clearly, we wanted a CB for a reason back then. This was your final mock? It would be fun to compare your picks now to Baalke's now and see how the roster would look. If it looks significantly better, we can start adding a 'GM' to your title.

Well after careful analysis of this data it seems ElephantHaley has one upped you and the great baalke in his evaluation of collegiate football student athletes. Great job ElephantHaley.

That made me spit my water out!

Man, I didn't even post my mock from last year.

But yes, please lay the careful analysis for us...keep in mind the context of the time...little details like...Kyle Fuller going #14 overall.

My careful analysis uncovered that EH proposed trading 30+56+94 to move up to 11 in the 2014 draft for either Gilbert or Dennard.

my careful analysis says

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Ok no problem, here was my 2nd mock from 2014 draft, now obviously Kyle Fuller was LONG GONE by 30.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/

#30 CB Kyle Fuller- Va Tech#56 WR Donte Moncrief- Ole Miss#61 OLB Jeremiah Attaochu- GA Tech#77 OG Gabe Jackson-Miss St#94 CB Pierre Desir-Lindenwood#100 DT Caraun Reid- Princeton#129 QB AJ McCarron - Alabama#170 ILB Max Bullough- Michigan St7th RB Andre Williams- Boston College7th CB Nevin Lawson- Utah ST7th WR Jeff Janis- Saginaw ValleyRead more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/#mgcsaFCKZtmzgLyU.99

Great, I had Fuller too as an option. Clearly, we wanted a CB for a reason back then. This was your final mock? It would be fun to compare your picks now to Baalke's now and see how the roster would look. If it looks significantly better, we can start adding a 'GM' to your title.

Well after careful analysis of this data it seems ElephantHaley has one upped you and the great baalke in his evaluation of collegiate football student athletes. Great job ElephantHaley.

are you able to possibly elaborate on your careful analysis and how you came to this conclusion? A breakdown of pros and cons of each player picked by each ? It's very broad to just say he one upped Baalke without providing any sort of real feedback or anything of substance at all.

Originally posted by KRS-1:
My careful analysis uncovered that EH proposed trading 30+56+94 to move up to 11 in the 2014 draft for either Gilbert or Dennard.

Gilbert had the #2 CB spot wide open for the taking in Cleveland and he whiffed spectacularly. I said from the very beginning that while I liked him, he was being WAY overrated, he should never have been anything more than a late 1st rounder, early 2nd rounder. People fell in love with the measurables more than the player himself.

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Ok no problem, here was my 2nd mock from 2014 draft, now obviously Kyle Fuller was LONG GONE by 30.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/

#30 CB Kyle Fuller- Va Tech#56 WR Donte Moncrief- Ole Miss#61 OLB Jeremiah Attaochu- GA Tech#77 OG Gabe Jackson-Miss St#94 CB Pierre Desir-Lindenwood#100 DT Caraun Reid- Princeton#129 QB AJ McCarron - Alabama#170 ILB Max Bullough- Michigan St7th RB Andre Williams- Boston College7th CB Nevin Lawson- Utah ST7th WR Jeff Janis- Saginaw ValleyRead more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/#mgcsaFCKZtmzgLyU.99

Great, I had Fuller too as an option. Clearly, we wanted a CB for a reason back then. This was your final mock? It would be fun to compare your picks now to Baalke's now and see how the roster would look. If it looks significantly better, we can start adding a 'GM' to your title.

Well after careful analysis of this data it seems ElephantHaley has one upped you and the great baalke in his evaluation of collegiate football student athletes. Great job ElephantHaley.

are you able to possibly elaborate on your careful analysis and how you came to this conclusion? A breakdown of pros and cons of each player picked by each ? It's very broad to just say he one upped Baalke without providing any sort of real feedback or anything of substance at all.

It seems ElephanHaley's collegiate football student athletes selected were superior than the others mentioned, however it is still relatively early in their professional careers so it would seem the final chapter has not been written. Good luck to all those young men and a good day to you also kind sir.

Originally posted by susweel:
It seems ElephanHaley's collegiate football student athletes selected were superior than the others mentioned, however it is still relatively early in their professional careers so it would seem the final chapter has not been written. Good luck to all those young men and a good day to you also kind sir.

LOL!

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Ok no problem, here was my 2nd mock from 2014 draft, now obviously Kyle Fuller was LONG GONE by 30.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/

#30 CB Kyle Fuller- Va Tech#56 WR Donte Moncrief- Ole Miss#61 OLB Jeremiah Attaochu- GA Tech#77 OG Gabe Jackson-Miss St#94 CB Pierre Desir-Lindenwood#100 DT Caraun Reid- Princeton#129 QB AJ McCarron - Alabama#170 ILB Max Bullough- Michigan St7th RB Andre Williams- Boston College7th CB Nevin Lawson- Utah ST7th WR Jeff Janis- Saginaw ValleyRead more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/#mgcsaFCKZtmzgLyU.99

Great, I had Fuller too as an option. Clearly, we wanted a CB for a reason back then. This was your final mock? It would be fun to compare your picks now to Baalke's now and see how the roster would look. If it looks significantly better, we can start adding a 'GM' to your title.

Well after careful analysis of this data it seems ElephantHaley has one upped you and the great baalke in his evaluation of collegiate football student athletes. Great job ElephantHaley.

are you able to possibly elaborate on your careful analysis and how you came to this conclusion? A breakdown of pros and cons of each player picked by each ? It's very broad to just say he one upped Baalke without providing any sort of real feedback or anything of substance at all.

It seems ElephanHaley's collegiate football student athletes selected were superior than the others mentioned, however it is still relatively early in their professional careers so it would seem the final chapter has not been written. Good luck to all those young men and a good day to you also kind sir.

Just throwing this out there. Fuller had a -18.00 (making him the worst corner in the nfl last year based on pff), ward was actually better...ALOT better but keep your uneducated opinions based on one game its cool .

https://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/comments/2q6awx/based_on_pff_grades_kyle_fuller_180_is_the_worst/

Moncrief has been good. But would rather have hyde at this point.

Lynch was better then attochu and picked three round later.

Gabe Jackson, Ill give you that one cant even try to argue that one he is a boss.

Pierre desir? would rather have any of these picks: dontae johnson, acker, and reaser who are all looking like ballers.

Idk other then gabe jackson over martin and thomas, and ARGUABLY moncrief over Hyde I dont really see an improvement.

this isnt pointed directly at you sus btw. more towards haley.

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Ok no problem, here was my 2nd mock from 2014 draft, now obviously Kyle Fuller was LONG GONE by 30.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/

#30 CB Kyle Fuller- Va Tech#56 WR Donte Moncrief- Ole Miss#61 OLB Jeremiah Attaochu- GA Tech#77 OG Gabe Jackson-Miss St#94 CB Pierre Desir-Lindenwood#100 DT Caraun Reid- Princeton#129 QB AJ McCarron - Alabama#170 ILB Max Bullough- Michigan St7th RB Andre Williams- Boston College7th CB Nevin Lawson- Utah ST7th WR Jeff Janis- Saginaw ValleyRead more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/#mgcsaFCKZtmzgLyU.99

Great, I had Fuller too as an option. Clearly, we wanted a CB for a reason back then. This was your final mock? It would be fun to compare your picks now to Baalke's now and see how the roster would look. If it looks significantly better, we can start adding a 'GM' to your title.

Well after careful analysis of this data it seems ElephantHaley has one upped you and the great baalke in his evaluation of collegiate football student athletes. Great job ElephantHaley.

are you able to possibly elaborate on your careful analysis and how you came to this conclusion? A breakdown of pros and cons of each player picked by each ? It's very broad to just say he one upped Baalke without providing any sort of real feedback or anything of substance at all.

It seems ElephanHaley's collegiate football student athletes selected were superior than the others mentioned, however it is still relatively early in their professional careers so it would seem the final chapter has not been written. Good luck to all those young men and a good day to you also kind sir.

Originally posted by philosoraptor:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Ok no problem, here was my 2nd mock from 2014 draft, now obviously Kyle Fuller was LONG GONE by 30.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/

#30 CB Kyle Fuller- Va Tech#56 WR Donte Moncrief- Ole Miss#61 OLB Jeremiah Attaochu- GA Tech#77 OG Gabe Jackson-Miss St#94 CB Pierre Desir-Lindenwood#100 DT Caraun Reid- Princeton#129 QB AJ McCarron - Alabama#170 ILB Max Bullough- Michigan St7th RB Andre Williams- Boston College7th CB Nevin Lawson- Utah ST7th WR Jeff Janis- Saginaw ValleyRead more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/#mgcsaFCKZtmzgLyU.99

Great, I had Fuller too as an option. Clearly, we wanted a CB for a reason back then. This was your final mock? It would be fun to compare your picks now to Baalke's now and see how the roster would look. If it looks significantly better, we can start adding a 'GM' to your title.

Well after careful analysis of this data it seems ElephantHaley has one upped you and the great baalke in his evaluation of collegiate football student athletes. Great job ElephantHaley.

are you able to possibly elaborate on your careful analysis and how you came to this conclusion? A breakdown of pros and cons of each player picked by each ? It's very broad to just say he one upped Baalke without providing any sort of real feedback or anything of substance at all.

It seems ElephanHaley's collegiate football student athletes selected were superior than the others mentioned, however it is still relatively early in their professional careers so it would seem the final chapter has not been written. Good luck to all those young men and a good day to you also kind sir.

Just throwing this out there. Fuller had a -18.00 (making him the worst corner in the nfl last year based on pff), ward was actually better...ALOT better but keep your uneducated opinions based on one game its cool .

https://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/comments/2q6awx/based_on_pff_grades_kyle_fuller_180_is_the_worst/

Moncrief has been good. But would rather have hyde at this point.

Lynch was better then attochu and picked three round later.

Gabe Jackson, Ill give you that one cant even try to argue that one he is a boss.

Pierre desir? would rather have any of these picks: dontae johnson, acker, and reaser who are all looking like ballers.

Idk other then gabe jackson over martin and thomas, and ARGUABLY moncrief over Hyde I dont really see an improvement.

this isnt pointed directly at you sus btw. more towards haley.

I'll give him credit for talking all that trash and showing his mock at least. That I can respect...put yourself out there.

Ward - Hyde - Martin - Borland - Thomas - Ellington - DJ - Lynch - Acker = BEAST of a draft.

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Ok no problem, here was my 2nd mock from 2014 draft, now obviously Kyle Fuller was LONG GONE by 30.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/

#30 CB Kyle Fuller- Va Tech#56 WR Donte Moncrief- Ole Miss#61 OLB Jeremiah Attaochu- GA Tech#77 OG Gabe Jackson-Miss St#94 CB Pierre Desir-Lindenwood#100 DT Caraun Reid- Princeton#129 QB AJ McCarron - Alabama#170 ILB Max Bullough- Michigan St7th RB Andre Williams- Boston College7th CB Nevin Lawson- Utah ST7th WR Jeff Janis- Saginaw ValleyRead more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/nfl-draft/178083-elephant-mock-draft-trades-made/#mgcsaFCKZtmzgLyU.99

Great, I had Fuller too as an option. Clearly, we wanted a CB for a reason back then. This was your final mock? It would be fun to compare your picks now to Baalke's now and see how the roster would look. If it looks significantly better, we can start adding a 'GM' to your title.

Well after careful analysis of this data it seems ElephantHaley has one upped you and the great baalke in his evaluation of collegiate football student athletes. Great job ElephantHaley.

are you able to possibly elaborate on your careful analysis and how you came to this conclusion? A breakdown of pros and cons of each player picked by each ? It's very broad to just say he one upped Baalke without providing any sort of real feedback or anything of substance at all.

It seems ElephanHaley's collegiate football student athletes selected were superior than the others mentioned, however it is still relatively early in their professional careers so it would seem the final chapter has not been written. Good luck to all those young men and a good day to you also kind sir.

Originally posted by natrone06:
Ward - Hyde - Martin - Borland - Thomas - Ellington - DJ - Lynch - Acker = BEAST of a draft.

Ward?? Get real
Martin??? Weak & sloppy
Thomas???? Cou;nt even beat out a dude brought in 2 weeks ago LMFAO

Its sad when the 4th rounders DJ and 5th anf 6th rounders have to hold up the overall grade because the 1st rounder and 3rd rounders wont be around much longer. lol

Oh and Kyle Fuller made Kap his Beatrice week 2 on NBC you member?

Originally posted by philosoraptor:
Just throwing this out there. Fuller had a -18.00 (making him the worst corner in the nfl last year based on pff), ward was actually better...ALOT better but keep your uneducated opinions based on one game its cool .

https://www.reddit.com/r/CHIBears/comments/2q6awx/based_on_pff_grades_kyle_fuller_180_is_the_worst/

Moncrief has been good. But would rather have hyde at this point.

Lynch was better then attochu and picked three round later.

Gabe Jackson, Ill give you that one cant even try to argue that one he is a boss.

Pierre desir? would rather have any of these picks: dontae johnson, acker, and reaser who are all looking like ballers.

Idk other then gabe jackson over martin and thomas, and ARGUABLY moncrief over Hyde I dont really see an improvement.

this isnt pointed directly at you sus btw. more towards haley.

Fuller had that Marcus Cooper hype, a few good games and some people lost their minds to such an extent that they neglected to notice that the guy kinda sucks, in Cooper's case, really sucks.