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Why does Baalke seem get a free pass from serious criticism?

This draft stinks.

I get the center.

I like Ward but we didn't have to burn a 1st for him.

Everything else is a mystery.

Do we trade draft masters every other year? 2011, 2013 Baalke. 2012, 2014 Harbaugh.

Is that how it works? Egad. We could have done so much better.

I was joking about Staley for cripes sake.
[ Edited by brodiebluebanaszak on May 9, 2014 at 8:44 PM ]
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
This draft stinks.

I get the center.

I like Ward but we didn't have to burn a 1st for him.

Everything else is a mystery.

Do we trade draft masters every other year? 2011, 2013 Baalke. 2012, 2014 Harbaugh.

Is that how it works? Egad. We could have done so much better.

I was joking about Staley for cripes sake.
WHAT!? I love this draft. I thought we killed it. The draft looks like a team that is absolutely loaded with talent that is able to draft mostly for BPA instead of need.
Originally posted by theduke85:
WHAT!? I love this draft. I thought we killed it. The draft looks like a team that is absolutely loaded with talent that is able to draft mostly for BPA instead of need.

I thought we killed it too.

Notice too how the people complaining now, literally complain about EVERYTHING. While they've been complaining all this time, Baalke has built a Top 2 roster in the NFL. I think he knows what he's doing.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
This draft stinks.

I get the center.

I like Ward but we didn't have to burn a 1st for him.

Everything else is a mystery.

Do we trade draft masters every other year? 2011, 2013 Baalke. 2012, 2014 Harbaugh.

Is that how it works? Egad. We could have done so much better.

I was joking about Staley for cripes sake.

Dude, you need to go back and do some research.
Stop posting about stuff you clearly don't know about
Originally posted by theduke85:
WHAT!? I love this draft. I thought we killed it. The draft looks like a team that is absolutely loaded with talent that is able to draft mostly for BPA instead of need.


Nyet!!! We need DBs!!! We needed to take 2 name DB's in our first three picks! We only got one, from Northwestern. No trade for Dennard. We walked away from Robey + Baptiste. No Reciever we passed on latimore to satisfy harbaughs fetish for the jumbo brontasaurus formation -- tukuafu-miller-hyde. We passed on Ealy -- a nice sub in for SMith or McDonald. This draft is a C-. If you look at our positional needs, we only got 1 of 6 for our needs (that's if you count ward as ss not slot corner). Come on. You can't DELIBERATELY AVOID needs better than that.
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I will reserve judgement until final draft is complete.

I will say that so far looks good.

people fall in love too much with big names (just like free agency)

building through the draft with a combination of best player vs best fit is a long term solution.
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by theduke85:
WHAT!? I love this draft. I thought we killed it. The draft looks like a team that is absolutely loaded with talent that is able to draft mostly for BPA instead of need.


Nyet!!! We need DBs!!! We needed to take 2 name DB's in our first three picks! We only got one, from Northwestern. No trade for Dennard. We walked away from Robey + Baptiste. No Reciever we passed on latimore to satisfy harbaughs fetish for the jumbo brontasaurus formation -- tukuafu-miller-hyde. We passed on Ealy -- a nice sub in for SMith or McDonald. This draft is a C-. If you look at our positional needs, we only got 1 of 6 for our needs (that's if you count ward as ss not slot corner). Come on. You can't DELIBERATELY AVOID needs better than that.

Don't forget we still have picks this year....and....another round of cuts before the season starts....and/or trades.

moves will be made.
Originally posted by Quest4six:
Dude, you need to go back and do some research.
Stop posting about stuff you clearly don't know about


What do I need to research? We lose Brown Rogers Whitner. Cully coming back from ACL. We sign Bethea. Okay. Good. Maybe some good chemistry there. Leaves 2 starters unaccounted for. We pass on Robey. We don't trade up for Dennard/Verret. We pass on other name corners. How does this help us?
DURRRR I don't work for the NFL, durrr I've never had a scouting job in my life, durrr and I'm smarter than 3 straight NFC Championships.

DURRRRRRRRRRRR HOW COME WE DIDN'T TRADE UP FOR CLOWNEY... DURRRR, I'ma go to Starbucks and get a handjob.
Originally posted by theduke85:
WHAT!? I love this draft. I thought we killed it. The draft looks like a team that is absolutely loaded with talent that is able to draft mostly for BPA instead of need.


We have needs that were clearly identified by everyone under the seson. ANd we didn't draft there. The Stevie move could pan out. But I have a feeling that the personality thing might rear its ugly head again.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by theduke85:
WHAT!? I love this draft. I thought we killed it. The draft looks like a team that is absolutely loaded with talent that is able to draft mostly for BPA instead of need.

I thought we killed it too.

Notice too how the people complaining now, literally complain about EVERYTHING. While they've been complaining all this time, Baalke has built a Top 2 roster in the NFL. I think he knows what he's doing.

No one is complaining. I am sick of hearing that crap dude. Some just have a different opinion than you on how our draft went. It seems like whenever someone doesn't agree with people on here you are considered a "complainer." Just a different persepective. And Baalke isn't immune to criticism. See the 2012 draft, which was dog doo doo. Yes, he is a top 5 GM but he CAN do wrong which has been evident in the past.
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
DURRRR I don't work for the NFL, durrr I've never had a scouting job in my life, durrr and I'm smarter than 3 straight NFC Championships.

DURRRRRRRRRRRR HOW COME WE DIDN'T TRADE UP FOR CLOWNEY... DURRRR, I'ma go to Starbucks and get a handjob.


Who said anything about Clowney? Okay Kurt Russell make a list with two columns. On left our most important positional needs. On the right, the positions of the players we drafted. How many rows match?

If baalke didn't take a second DB, then he must be happy with our 3 Ss and 5 CBs. Or, more likely, he didn't think the DBs there merited that high a pick with much better talent on the board. We got our DB(S). We could easily have gotten by without the best RB in the draft, valued by most in the #37 range, and we get him at #56. That is a bad pick? no way , that is fantastic and also makes me wonder about lattimore. Then we get a C, a very good one, because we have none in camp. And he comes from a real good program for OLs. Had to have him. Then we get an ILB, who should have gone somewhat earlier, plus we have a potential problem with Aldon and suspension. Good choice. Then we get OL help and that is super. Remember Snyder? We could definitely lose him and improve ourselves at OL backup. Our last pick another OL slated for early 2nd round and he has an ACL, which altho used to be the death knell, all you have to do is look at a guy with one on each knee...frank...so the ACL is not the curse it used to be. We red shirt a bona fide true 2nd rd pick taken with pick #100.

WRs? hell, trent was taking care of that by trading and we get a pair of slots...maybe one of them can be the deep threat also .

Brodie, I wonder, just exactly what here didn't you like? No way trent was going to give up the draft for gilbert at #7. And my guess is he didn't think anyone else was worth a move. In short, he didn't see the talent a lot of top DBs were supposed to have. So he brings in the kid from E. Ill. WRs were taken care of outside the draft and are ready to start. Draftees...not so ready. So honest, Brodie, what could he or how could he have improved, picking at #30? He got quality at every slot, including the ILB...true we didn't have to have him, but Navarro...what if he needs more time to heal? Also, we have to have someone at ILB in the pipeline and we got a dandy.

In all, trent came close to getting 1.5 times value for what he picked by waiting , taking a couple we didn't really need, but will use, and finessed the WRs by doing it out of the draft. Now that was clever. He can quit now and take home an A. Nothing fancy, no big names, but quality all around, one guy going on IR. Superb. Really nice job.

As for DBs, I bet my paycheck that we see DBs come to us in rds 5,6, 7 and probably will have a dozen UDFAs in camp as DBs. Also same for WRs. Nah, this was just a value pick thru and thru. At end of draft expect at least 10 DBs and half that many WRs in camp. Just looking for a gem. And, he may find one,too.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on May 9, 2014 at 9:17 PM ]
Here you go Brodie...you're a smart man, so maybe this rationale will help: http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/171550-the-baalke-effect/page8/
Originally posted by QBguru:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by theduke85:
WHAT!? I love this draft. I thought we killed it. The draft looks like a team that is absolutely loaded with talent that is able to draft mostly for BPA instead of need.

I thought we killed it too.

Notice too how the people complaining now, literally complain about EVERYTHING. While they've been complaining all this time, Baalke has built a Top 2 roster in the NFL. I think he knows what he's doing.

No one is complaining. I am sick of hearing that crap dude. Some just have a different opinion than you on how our draft went. It seems like whenever someone doesn't agree with people on here you are considered a "complainer." Just a different persepective. And Baalke isn't immune to criticism. See the 2012 draft, which was dog doo doo. Yes, he is a top 5 GM but he CAN do wrong which has been evident in the past.

Meh, I stand by my statement. It's the same cast of characters every time, regardless of circumstance. They're guaranteed to complain. Big difference between disagreeing with a particular move (which I do at times), and literally complaining about everything the team does. You know what I'm talking about.
[ Edited by SofaKing on May 9, 2014 at 9:18 PM ]