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Eddie D on Kaep "I'm worried that the team might get old around him,"

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Originally posted by doc_brown_:
This statement by Eddie D begs the question, do the 49ers trade up in this years draft for players they covet? Or should they stay put with what they have and fill needs/draft for the future?

Remember, the 2014 draft is deep and with 1 pick in the 1st, 2 in the 2nd and 3 in the 3rd, there is potential for 6 eventual starters.

They should do what they should do to get another blockbuster draft like the '86 draft.
IMO The question should be...how will the FO replace our current all-pro players with New up and coming all-pro players, this staff will always get capable starters as the team turns over.....TD has said he does not want his team to get Too old at any position at any one time....finding great players takes skill and some luck, especially when you have mostly been picking late in each round the past few years, and especially when you have to use your precious draft capital to move up to get a targeted player.
[ Edited by highway49 on Mar 27, 2014 at 2:59 PM ]
SF
  • Carradine, Lattimore and Dial
  • 6 picks in top 100
  • Culliver, Ian Williams

Seattle
  • Lost key defensive starters
  • 2 picks in top 100

Not a lick of difference in these two teams or Home Field advantage wouldn't have run supreme. The closest anyone has come to dominating in their house, was us in Conference Title game. We dominated for 3 1/2 qtrs.

I fail to see how we will get old.
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Originally posted by highway49:
IMO The question should be...how will the FO replace our current all-pro players with New up and coming all-pro players, this staff will always get capable starters as the team turns over.....TD has said he does not want his team to get To old at any position at any one time....finding great players takes skill and some luck, especially when you have mostly been picking late in each round the past few years, and especially when you use your precious draft capital to move up to get a targeted player.

There are three sources to get talent. Draft, Free agency and Undrafted Free Agents. The way Walsh drafted and acquired talent was to get players that could do *one thing* well to help the team and then develop that player to add more skill sets and round him out to become a starter or a valued backup. Initially Charles Haley was a situation substitution pass rusher and came in on 3rd downs or where the team has long yardage to go, then he continued to develop into a monster DE/OLB, John Taylor was just a punt/kick returner at first, but Walsh gradually developed him into a fantastic WR to compliment Rice. Michael Carter was in on base defense and was taken out when the nickel came in but developed power and moves to become a valued NT for a dynasty. Bill Ring was a great special teams player, but never developed into a starter -- but he was a great locker room leader. So - at least for Walsh - he was just looking for ONE THING and if he drafted right, the character and desire of that player would dictated his destiny on the team, so to speak.

Talent evaluation is key here, it is so very important to draft and get good free agents because what a big waste of time and resources when you blow your first pick like AJ Jenkins.
The Niners are not the only team to miss on a first rounder like AJ.....hopefully we hit on more than we miss this year... And Eddie D reportedly spent over 100 million extra on talent during those glory days, that's a lot of cake to put out for a silver trophy that stands 22" high and weighs 7 pounds....... And Oh Yea ,Thanks Again Mr. D
[ Edited by highway49 on Mar 27, 2014 at 3:16 PM ]
If true lets hope kap's learning curve is
Small.
Gores replacement is on the roster in Latt or a three headed approach with hunter, latt and james. boldin is old but still in very good shape and we will definitely address that need this year in the draft, j smith needs a replacement but we could have it if Dial or Tank can step up, probably draft another one as well. many of our other dudes are young and a few of our studs like willis, VD and a few others are not even 30 yet. we are stacked with young talent and we draft well so im not worried about it. baalke just has to keep working the draft the way he has been and keep our cap healthy and we'll be good for a long time
With the exception or Justin Smith and Frank Gore, everyone has a good few years left. Brooks is 30 and Willis is 28. V. Davis is 30, but I've seen TE's lately go into their mid 30's. They have a lot of youth coming up on the D-line. Aldon and Bowman are still young. Obviously Boldin doesn't last too much longer, but they're obviously going to address receiver this draft. The team will go through changes. The Walsh and Seifert teams went through changes at various positions.
walsh replaced players before they began declining, sometimes letting them go too early. I hope we keep our players like willis and VD longer than walsh would have. if u notice decline that is when you replace them if they arent hurting your salary cap. I think the niners have been very smart about rotating players and not overpaying FAs since baalke has been in charge. we'll be good for a long while i think
I'm not worried...Baalke's done a great job of keeping the talent level high. Infusing Carradine and potentially Dial into the DL will get them younger. I'd expect he'll grab another talented DL this year to eventually replace Ray Mac. Along the OL, they're still pretty young, especially with Kilgore taking over at C. I also expect Baalke to let Iupati walk, thanks to the Titans who set the bar ridiculously high by signing a considerably lesser talent in Andy Levitre to a 6 yr $47M contract. Enter Joe Looney, whom Niner fans haven't seen nearly enough of. I don't think the OL would miss a beat. Throw Jonathan Martin and Luke Marquardt into the equation and there's more youth along the OL. Because of Crabtree entering the final season of his rookie contract and Boldin only signing for 2 yrs, I'd anticipate BAalke drafting a couple of big, fast WR's, or one big fast guy and a smaller WR who could also return kicks, then grab another "big" next draft. Secondary is pretty young outside of Bethea, who was an excellent addition and will enable whomever Baalke drafts to ease into the lineup instead of being expected to be an impact player immediately. At TE, only Vernon is approaching 30 and he's still in his prime. All things considered, Eddie D really doesn't have to worry...our team's in excellent hands and will be a SB contender for years to come.
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Not true. A COUPLE of key guys will get old (Gore, J Smith, etc) but there is a lot of youth on this team. One thing to note, it is much easier to replace key guys when the team is super talented. We are talented. When you are less talented, losing a great player is harder.

It is not a problem.

agreed.
Originally posted by CorvaNinerFan:
I'm not worried...Baalke's done a great job of keeping the talent level high. Infusing Carradine and potentially Dial into the DL will get them younger. I'd expect he'll grab another talented DL this year to eventually replace Ray Mac. Along the OL, they're still pretty young, especially with Kilgore taking over at C. I also expect Baalke to let Iupati walk, thanks to the Titans who set the bar ridiculously high by signing a considerably lesser talent in Andy Levitre to a 6 yr $47M contract. Enter Joe Looney, whom Niner fans haven't seen nearly enough of. I don't think the OL would miss a beat. Throw Jonathan Martin and Luke Marquardt into the equation and there's more youth along the OL. Because of Crabtree entering the final season of his rookie contract and Boldin only signing for 2 yrs, I'd anticipate BAalke drafting a couple of big, fast WR's, or one big fast guy and a smaller WR who could also return kicks, then grab another "big" next draft. Secondary is pretty young outside of Bethea, who was an excellent addition and will enable whomever Baalke drafts to ease into the lineup instead of being expected to be an impact player immediately. At TE, only Vernon is approaching 30 and he's still in his prime. All things considered, Eddie D really doesn't have to worry...our team's in excellent hands and will be a SB contender for years to come.

i agree dude. even vernon isnt that old considering the shape the guy keeps himself in. hes basically been an olineman his first few years here anyway so he didnt get hit too much compared to other receiving TEs his age
Elder Lee. Watch out for it. It creeps up on you.
Only guys really getting old are Gore (31), Boldin (33), and J.Smith (35 in September).

Player who are 30 or getting close to it: V. Davis, Staley, Willis, McDonald, Brooks, Bethea.
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Gotta get Justin's Beefey replacement (hopefully Stephon Tuitt). Gotta get Donte Moncrief. Gotta get Gabe Jackson Guard. Gotta get CB prospect like Gilbert, Fuller, Denard. Gotta hope Lattimore is healthy and transitions to what we all hope and believe he can be which is a stud NFL runner. There is a lot of work that needs to be done but if the 2013 draft class and this 2014 Draft class hit and continue to develop, then the 49ers will be at the top of the NFL for the foreseeable future atleast playoffs annually.

Love ya picks!!, if we dont get Jackson , I will take the Iupati clone from UCLA X-Man Xavier Su'Afilo
[ Edited by toppdogg32 on Mar 27, 2014 at 4:44 PM ]