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Why you shouldn't be worried about the 2015 offseason

  • Jcool
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Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by ninergold:
at some point in the near future, big dollars will come off and get reallocated. gore and cowboy will ride off into the sunset.

i think crabs will ask for huge dime and we could lose him, in addition to iupati.

No one is irreplaceable.

Rarely does paying a WR big money pay off. Crabs is a great WR for the 49ers but paying him 60+ million might not be the best use of that money.
So to summerize,potentially we'll have a s**t-ton of money,we have guys needing extentions,and one may or may not get squeezed out possibly cuz there wont be enough dough to go around??

Thanx AB,knock out job as usual.However,one question.What about the tag??Aldon getting the tag for instance,if he plays at his normal level,would that help us??Or do we need to go long term to get his # lower in the first few years??Whats the # for an OLB??

Btw,he would be the only one I would consider tagging besides Kap,but the # is too high for QB's for that to be an option imho
Originally posted by VDpwndMjenkins:
So to summerize,potentially we'll have a s**t-ton of money,we have guys needing extentions,and one may or may not get squeezed out possibly cuz there wont be enough dough to go around??

Thanx AB,knock out job as usual.However,one question.What about the tag??Aldon getting the tag for instance,if he plays at his normal level,would that help us??Or do we need to go long term to get his # lower in the first few years??Whats the # for an OLB??

Btw,he would be the only one I would consider tagging besides Kap,but the # is too high for QB's for that to be an option imho

Well Aldon wouldn't be tagged until 2016, since he will most likely get his option yr picked up. I think it would be smarter to let him play out 2014, then extend him. 2016 if the cap is just $150M(Could be $160M) we have over 80M right now in cap space, with only Boone, McDonald, and Vernon as primary FAs.

I personally hate the franchise tag. Rather let the guy go or extend him,dont like tagging a guy multiple times either, hurts the cap.
Fun fact and exercise for me is when Camp opens, with 90 guys, and we can see who are locks, 50/50, no chance, etc... Cause right now if they didn't use the top 51 rule, we have -$5,843,075 in cap room, or OVER the cap. Of course $6.6M will come off in June, so it's like 1.1M under, so I don't see many outside deals happening. I didn't think a Thurmond, Edelman, or Sanders signing would really make sense.

Our adjusted cap, which is the most we can spend, is $135,483,783 , That includes carryover, and credits, which is why it's higher than $133M that the salary cap is set for everyone. Three teams have below $133M for actually going over the cap to end 2013, cause Not Likely To Be Earned Incentives kicked in, and caused an overage.

For a fun exercise, lets take a look at who I view as locks, and their salaries.

I have 35 locks, below.

RT 76 Anthony Davis - $7,532,266
TE 85 Vernon Davis - $7,342,916
ILB 53 NaVorro Bowman - $7.05M (Will decrease as his roster bonus will go down due to missing games)
DE 94 Justin Smith - $6,936,666
ILB 52 Patrick Willis - $6.863M
OLB 55 Ahmad Brooks - $6.6M
RB 21 Frank Gore - $6.45M (Possible restructure, but I don't think it's far fetched to see him play out the 2014 deal)
DE 91 Ray McDonald - $5,346,985
WR 15 Michael Crabtree - $4,770,443
LG 77 Mike Iupati - $4,625,863 (I don't believe they will trade him, the O-Line is a key to our success, unless a stud is there, not happening)
OLB 99 Aldon Smith - $4,576,727
NT 90 Glenn Dorsey - $3,792,500
LT 74 Joe Staley - $3.4M
SS -- Antoine Bethea - $3M
RG 75 Alex Boone - $2.59M
P 4 Andy Lee - $2.4M
WR 81 Anquan Boldin - $2.364M
CB 26 Tramaine Brock - $2M
PK 9 Phil Dawson - $2M
FS 35 Eric Reid - $1,927,444
OLB 51 Dan Skuta - $1.65M
QB 7 Colin Kaepernick - $1,630,457
CB 29 Chris Culliver - $1,580,719
SS/FS 27 C.J. Spillman - $1,558,334
FB 49 Bruce Miller - $1,446,614
NT 93 Ian Williams - $1,283,333
DE 95 Tank Carradine - $1,124,473
C 67 Daniel Kilgore - $1,022,575
TE 89 Vance McDonald - $817,995
RB 32 Kendall Hunter - $754,805
OLB 96 Corey Lemonier - $640,880
WR 11 Quinton Patton - $592,875
ILB 57 Michael Wilhoite - $570,000
LS 47 Kevin McDermott - $496,666 (This is a lock only if he doesn't regress in offseason, and the team doesn't bring in another LS to compete with him)
RB 38 Marcus Lattimore - $495,146

These 35 players make up a total of $107,232,682 in cap room used up, plus the dead money that will be $3,429,220, which is a total of $110,661,902 used, which leaves $24,821,881 in cap room available to be used on the remaining players 36-53, plus practice squad, and anyone on IR, PUP, or NFI.

Guys who should make it are below.

QB -- Blaine Gabbert - $2,011,587 (Probably takes a pay cut, so it's non guaranteed, and add in a few more years for purpose of grooming him as our #2 guy behind Kap.
RB 23 LaMichael James - $905,154
SS 41 Raymond Ventrone - $855,000 (He is a lock in my eyes, but I put him as a should be, cause not everyone view him or ST guys like him as needs)
OT 71 Jonathan Martin - $824,933 (I think he makes it as the 6th OL, he probably will be there on game days.)
OG 78 Joe Looney - $676,301
CB 30 Eric Wright - $590,000 (Would be $25K more if he makes the roster)
ILB 54 Nick Moody - $521,918 (Probably more of a lock, but we probably bring in a few rooks to compete for a spot behind Willis and Wilhoite.)

That's an additional $6,384,893 plus the additional $25K roster bonus for Wright making the roster, it's a total of $6,409,893.

If we add that number with the previous numbers, we have used up $117,070,795 used up. And that's with 42 players signed for the 53 man roster/reserve lists. That leaves us with a good amount of cap space, around $18,412,988 in cap room. Now the draft picks will take up at least $6,009,358 according to OverTheCap.com's rookie pool projection.

Take away that from our cap room, we still have $12,403,630 in cap room.

I will admit, I was worried about this years cap, but I am thinking more along the lines that we may see some extensions, maybe Crabtree, Kap, Miller, Culliver, and Hunter.

So you see, we don't need Gore to take a pay cut.
That 12 million will be spent on Kaepernick alone for the first year of his deal. Which means we will have to backload his deal more than I was hoping.