Your comeback/breakout players of 2014

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by CornellU49er:
While I would not go so far as to say Vance is, or will be, a bust. I was disappointed with his rookie season as well. I think the sentiment comes from how the offense is structured and comparing Vance to Delanie Walker's production (a backup TE on a team where the qb threw to 2 people most of the season).

In our offense we do things backwards from what is traditional. Receivers are primarily used for possession, picking up the tough 3rd and 6 type play. TEs are used as the deep threat, mismatch, source of big plays. In 2012 we had 2 such TEs that could reliably make big plays and scare a defense. This opened up the offense significantly (especially after Kap took over). I think we were all hoping Vance would at least be replacement level for D.Walker, but he wasn't and the offense suffered as a result.

He has all the physical tools to be everything D Walker was and much more, and we need him to be in 2014. In fact, I would go so far as to say the single biggest need we have on offense for the 2014 season is a 2nd reliable big play threat TE for our 2 TE offense (assuming Boldin re-signs as it seems he will). The question is, do you believe Vance will be that for us in 2014? Because without it, I think our offense will continue to struggle mightily against good defenses.

he was a rookie. as a 7 year vet delanie had 21 catches for 344 yards. sure i would have liked to see more out of vance, but go look at gavin escobars stats from dallas, a team that threw 150 more time than we did. escobar was picked 8 spots ahead of vance and essentially had the same stats give or take a few yards and catches.

Originally posted by CornellU49er:

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by CornellU49er:
While I would not go so far as to say Vance is, or will be, a bust. I was disappointed with his rookie season as well. I think the sentiment comes from how the offense is structured and comparing Vance to Delanie Walker's production (a backup TE on a team where the qb threw to 2 people most of the season).

In our offense we do things backwards from what is traditional. Receivers are primarily used for possession, picking up the tough 3rd and 6 type play. TEs are used as the deep threat, mismatch, source of big plays. In 2012 we had 2 such TEs that could reliably make big plays and scare a defense. This opened up the offense significantly (especially after Kap took over). I think we were all hoping Vance would at least be replacement level for D.Walker, but he wasn't and the offense suffered as a result.

He has all the physical tools to be everything D Walker was and much more, and we need him to be in 2014. In fact, I would go so far as to say the single biggest need we have on offense for the 2014 season is a 2nd reliable big play threat TE for our 2 TE offense (assuming Boldin re-signs as it seems he will). The question is, do you believe Vance will be that for us in 2014? Because without it, I think our offense will continue to struggle mightily against good defenses.

he was a rookie. as a 7 year vet delanie had 21 catches for 344 yards. sure i would have liked to see more out of vance, but go look at gavin escobars stats from dallas, a team that threw 150 more time than we did. escobar was picked 8 spots ahead of vance and essentially had the same stats give or take a few yards and catches.

Like I said, I am not ready to label him a bust. I am hopeful that his sophomore season is a dramatic improvement, because our offense needs it to be. I don't particularly care about Gavin Escobar's production. 8 catches on 19 targets for 119 yards all season is disappointing for a 2nd round TE in a 2 TE heavy offense. I hope (and expect) he makes a big leap in 2014, but I am worried about what our offense will look like if he doesn't and the coaching staff doesn't get him involved.

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by CornellU49er:

Originally posted by crabman82:

Originally posted by CornellU49er:
While I would not go so far as to say Vance is, or will be, a bust. I was disappointed with his rookie season as well. I think the sentiment comes from how the offense is structured and comparing Vance to Delanie Walker's production (a backup TE on a team where the qb threw to 2 people most of the season).

In our offense we do things backwards from what is traditional. Receivers are primarily used for possession, picking up the tough 3rd and 6 type play. TEs are used as the deep threat, mismatch, source of big plays. In 2012 we had 2 such TEs that could reliably make big plays and scare a defense. This opened up the offense significantly (especially after Kap took over). I think we were all hoping Vance would at least be replacement level for D.Walker, but he wasn't and the offense suffered as a result.

He has all the physical tools to be everything D Walker was and much more, and we need him to be in 2014. In fact, I would go so far as to say the single biggest need we have on offense for the 2014 season is a 2nd reliable big play threat TE for our 2 TE offense (assuming Boldin re-signs as it seems he will). The question is, do you believe Vance will be that for us in 2014? Because without it, I think our offense will continue to struggle mightily against good defenses.

he was a rookie. as a 7 year vet delanie had 21 catches for 344 yards. sure i would have liked to see more out of vance, but go look at gavin escobars stats from dallas, a team that threw 150 more time than we did. escobar was picked 8 spots ahead of vance and essentially had the same stats give or take a few yards and catches.

Like I said, I am not ready to label him a bust. I am hopeful that his sophomore season is a dramatic improvement, because our offense needs it to be. I don't particularly care about Gavin Escobar's production. 8 catches on 19 targets for 119 yards all season is disappointing for a 2nd round TE in a 2 TE heavy offense. I hope (and expect) he makes a big leap in 2014, but I am worried about what our offense will look like if he doesn't and the coaching staff doesn't get him involved.

people need to be realistic about a #2 te production. delanie was loved here but he never topped 350 yards in a season. obviously he did other things not seen on a stat sheet.

Originally posted by niners94:

Kilgore. He better break out if he's starting.

Originally posted by btthepunk:

He's gonna break out like Boone did. Watch.

Originally posted by btthepunk:
Does Crabtree count as comeback player? He's going over 1400 yards next season.